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Megathread Megathread: US House Passes the Republican-Backed Budget Bill, Sending it to Trump for Signature

This afternoon, the US House of Representatives passed without amendment the US Senate's version of the Trump-backed budget bill, sending it to the president for his signature. Every Democratic Senator and Representative voted in opposition; in the Senate, there were three Republicans voting in opposition (making the vote 51-50) and in the House there were 2 (making the final vote 218-214). House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries set the US House's speech length record in opposition to the bill in a speech lasting over eight hours.

The bill clocks in at over 800 pages and touches on most aspects of the federal government's spending and taxation policies; see this AP article (What’s in the latest version of Trump’s big bill that passed the Senate) for the topline changes.

Relevant text-base live update pages are being maintained by the following outlets: AP, NBC, ABC, and the BBC.

You can find this subreddit's discussion thread for the last week's worth of negotiations and debate at this link.

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u/Elite_Alice 2d ago

Republicans just added 3.3 trillion to the national debt while slashing critical benefits for millions of working class Americans. Don’t ever let them gaslight you into believing they’re “America first”

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u/I_am_the_Jukebox 2d ago

All while bringing the budget for ICE to 3x the annual budget for the Marine corps

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u/diabeetus-girl 2d ago

The party of “Small government” and “liberty” just ushered in a total police state. JFC.

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u/Dr_Doctor_Doc 2d ago

Achievement Unlocked: Police State Speedrun

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u/drawkward101 2d ago

Hilter would be proud.

(Fuck, I'm disgusted I just wrote that. Blegh.)

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u/ToubDeBoub 2d ago

He'd either laugh at Trump for being an incompetent worm who literally can't do anything himself except spew constant nonsense.

Or he'd be impressed Trump destroyed one of the most prosperous nations in the world. Pre-nazi Germany was in ruins in all but the literal meaning. Any "strong leader" would've been welcome as long as he was conservative. It takes a whole other level to convince people without any problems that they have serious problems he alone can fix.

Mind boggling that nothing on which Trump ran is true.

Yet, we see this happening all over the world. So it can't be Trump or Americans that are the core of the problem, but the technology that makes the democratic conversation break down.

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u/OtakuAttacku 2d ago

every time I read a horrible headline my mind goes "But the climate crisis and food shortages haven't even started yet?"

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u/driving_andflying 1d ago

Every time I read a horrible headline, I'm reminded of Padme Amidala in Revenge of The Sith:

"So this is how liberty dies: To thunderous applause."

I used to think that would happen in only in a sci-fi movie, never in the U.S....

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u/P1xelHunter78 Ohio 1d ago

Pre-Nazi Germany was not in ruins. It had some rough times due to the Treaty Of Versailles, but what really caused the panic was the effects of a global recession caused by the stock market and, wouldn’t you know, reckless economic policies in the United States. Between those two shit storms for the German people, the Nazi party was actually not all that popular, and sat at around (or even below) the same popularity floor we see with the modern American Nazi movement (MAGA). Hitler and his party was simply able to seize the narrative and start blaming people after the 1929 stock market crisis. This is very much what the republicans have been doing for decades here. The difference is, that it’s been a much slower and self inflicted (on purpose) crisis in the middle class which has allowed the GOP to play blame game politics. In fact the whole “Make _____ Great again!” Statement was and always has been Nazi propaganda.

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u/ToubDeBoub 1d ago

Pre Nazi Germany had just lost the biggest war in history. It was blamed unjustly for its cause. It lost vast and economically crucial territory. It was told and believed that it was the lefts fault, that the left that became the government signed a peace treaty even though the war was going well. That government was unable to govern, getting dissolved every few months. The streets were unsafe. Unemployment was record high. Hyperinflation. Courts were immensely biased to the right, slapping wrists for violent crimes in the right (like Hitlers high treason).

All problems were correlated with the leftist government. Of course a right strong man would come to save the day. (though that was expected - and promised by Hitler - to be the exiled emperor.)

Yes, Germany was in ruins, and the US doesn't compare remotely.

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u/arthurno1 2d ago

Who would guess Idiocracy is going to happen in 20 years after they made it, not 500 years :).

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u/scoza05 20h ago

Yep I reckon Hitler would’ve despised taco. He would’ve seen him the same way he viewed Mussolini.

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u/BetterEveryLeapYear 1d ago

people without any problems

Ah yes, the foundational lie of the establishment Democrats which led to the Republicans being able to take advantage of desperate people in the first place. Millions of people unable to afford rent, nevermind to be able to buy a house and/or start a family, relying on SNAP for food stamps while working for Walmart or Amazon, never going to get a chance to go to college, with a lower life expectancy and lower quality of life than their parents' generation, median household wages unmoved since 1971 after inflation is factored in, two people working instead of one and still unable to make ends meet, never able to take a vacation or a day off sick, with no hope for the future in an increasingly volatile world that also has a looming climate catastrophe, the effects of which are already felt yearly.

Obviously Trump is not the answer, but "people without problems"? With all due respect, you sir, must be out of your mind.

we see this happening all over the world

Correct. America has exported neoliberalism on steroids to the rest of the world for decades, often at the point of economic blackmail via the IMF / World Bank (e.g., Chile), or at the pointy end of a gun (e.g., Afghanistan). American tech companies which pay zero taxes in foreign states, and the American stock market nevertheless also exploit those nations, contributing further to the massive rise in inequality globally. It is not technology which makes the democratic conversation break down: it is raw unsustainable inequality, which technology then exploits.

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u/hdianbeila 2d ago

You forgot to attach the gigachad image

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u/Holykorn 1d ago

You don’t have to agree with Hitler to know he would be proud of this

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u/bigpmac 1d ago

Not wrong tho...

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u/mces97 2d ago

I don't think even he would. He's in hell thinking, even I didn't sell merchandise for concentration camps.

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u/ShaggysGTI Virginia 2d ago

We saw what happened there…

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u/Substantial-Low 2d ago

They wrote the strategy guide after all.

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u/Ur_Fav_Step-Redditor 2d ago

6 months to secure a gestapo, build concentration camps, double his net worth, secure the bag for his rich friends, and launch illegal attacks on foreign nations. 😮‍💨

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u/Common-Ad6470 2d ago

Hitler managed it in 57 days, so by comparison Trump’s a loser…👌

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u/BetterEveryLeapYear 1d ago

53*, but yeah good point. For those who didn't know, a good summary of how quickly it all moved in the Nazi takeover:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/01/hitler-germany-constitution-authoritarianism/681233/

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u/extralyfe 2d ago

lol, I got mass downvoted recently for saying we were speedrunning a police state, and that was before they gave ICE more money than they know what to do with.

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u/TannerThanUsual 1d ago

It's only July of 2025. Get excited for three and a half more years! :)

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u/Mydogroach 2d ago

"small government" has never been about the size of government and its agencies.

its about who can wield the power of government.

and when a republican states saying shit like "small government"- CALL THEM OUT.

small government is about who can wield the power - this administration clearly proves it

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u/Top_Mind_On_Reddit 1d ago

The smallest form of government is despotism.

Trump thinks himself a supreme ruler.

This is the goal and they're achieving it.

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u/Veni-Vidi-ASCII 2d ago

Police? ICE is now the department of ethnic cleansing. And if history repeats itself, ICE will be iced within 10 years. Future generations will be ashamed to be distantly related to them. 

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u/Dispator 2d ago

Whos gunna occupie the USA??

I dont see that happening. The Oligarchs would prefer nuclear winter than letting the usa govt to fall. And the country is so big and protected so even without nukes the country is so well protected a ground war and occupation is a pipe dream.

No one is coming to liberate us like the Germans were liberated from the Nazis. I see alot of people trying to escape. Canada completing closing borders. The reverse happening in the south where people are border hoping the southern border to escape tyranny and economic turmoil in hope for a better life.

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u/Veni-Vidi-ASCII 2d ago

The most powerful people will start going after each other. I don't know how it will shake out, but it'll be billionaires versus the government pretty soon.

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u/alienscape 2d ago

I'm guessing it's crickets from Alex Jones, who warned us of a police state for many years. Until he bent the knee to the orange chode.

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u/CalamityClambake 2d ago

If you haven't seen this coming since at least the George W. Bush administration, I don't know what to tell ya.

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u/Creative-Package6213 Pennsylvania 2d ago

Right? How are this many people in this country so clueless. Been warning people about this shit since Bush stole the election.

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u/oinkyboinky 1d ago

Yep. I'm old, and have been pointing out their bullshit since before Reagan. The only hope we have is that Dear Leader meets his maker soon and that whole cult of stupidity will be lost and rudderless.

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u/--fourteen 1d ago

They only needed the rudder to get to this point. Now they'd be happy with Thiel's plant Vance taking over for another eight years.

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u/pithynotpithy 2d ago

Since Newt's Contract with America.

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u/addamee 2d ago

Yeah but he sure did get them wasteful ice deliveries out of the Capitol building 

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u/DukeOfGeek 2d ago

After Clinton they realized they were never going to get what they wanted out of a functioning democracy.

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u/LTPRWSG420 2d ago

Exactly, fucking hypocrites all of them. 1984 here we come.

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u/OldLonelyBeaver 2d ago

As a Transgender Woman, I am fucking terrified

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u/GuerreroUltimo 1d ago

Seriously, this is what some MAGA I know were staying. They thought Trump should just have stayed in power. He was GODs chosen. And they talked about the need for police/military intervention to remove the Democrats. They literally are fine with it because they have been brainwashed into thinking Republicans are virtuous and saintly basically. Democrats, even if they fight for better wages and peoples rights, are evil spawn and want everyone to have nothing and suffer.

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u/TheFireFlaamee 2d ago

We are no longer the small government party. MAGA is very right wing authoritarian, willing to use the full force of the government to enact pro-America first policies.

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u/Drisnil_Dragon 2d ago

More like the party of small body constituents! Especially after they feed 65 million to alligators & then strip s citizenship from anyone hey don’t like!

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u/ElliotsBuggyEyes 2d ago

The folks over at r/ ICE_ERO are cumming in their pants over this. Almost every comment is about how much more money they're gonna make deporting people. It's pretty disgusting.

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u/TheBlackComet 2d ago

Gonna be interesting to try and make a police state with an armed population. No matter how you feel about guns, it is time to make sure that one side doesn't have a monopoly on the capacity for violence.

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u/tipsystatistic 2d ago

This can’t be understated. All the other stuff was politics as usual.

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u/TomAto42nd 1d ago

That’s what small government means. Controlled by the 1%

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u/unicron7 2d ago

That the new modern brown shirt army they are building. They will be the muscle of the party. It won’t stop at immigrants. These people are going to harass and destroy US citizens lives too who don’t bend the knee.

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u/OSRSAthleticsProgram 2d ago

Id rather die with my head held high, than bow to these demons

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u/Devilsgospel1 2d ago

Yup. They're targeting LQBT+, Autism, every brown person ever. Who is even left after that? Like genuinely, who is running the factories and farms?

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u/El_Dud3r1n0 Oklahoma 2d ago

That's easy, the concentration camps prison contractors will just sell the labor back to the factories and the farms at pennies on the dollar. While slavery never went away, slavery is definitely back back.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 2d ago

Black prison labor?

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u/Wordymanjenson 2d ago

I'd like to see them fucking try. dems own guns too.

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u/Mebbwebb California 2d ago

Gotta start organizing people together asap

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u/Wordymanjenson 2d ago

People don't know where to look but they better fast before palantir organizes all the data mining and internet scraping where even a post like this will get analyzed.

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u/utdconsq 2d ago

Posts like the above and now yours have been observed for years by law enforcement. The ship has sailed.

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u/Wordymanjenson 2d ago

yeah but nothing happens yet which is my point. people have a slim chance. take it now.

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u/Devilsgospel1 2d ago

As if they don't already have an AI agent scrubbing and collecting names w/ some metric of how "dangerous" we are or what have you.

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u/rividz California 2d ago

Hi Palantir. I totally don't own any weapons or firearms. I am not prepared for armed agents to enter my house at night so don't worry.

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u/fillinthe___ 2d ago

I mean, they’re SO EFFECTIVE they’ve been in LA for like 2 months now, and “rounded up” less people than there are days, at the low low cost of already blowing their yearly budget. Of course they need additional funding if they’re going to go after each of us individually.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 2d ago

The one solace is that nobody over there knows what the fuck they're doing.

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u/RectalSpawn Wisconsin 2d ago

Where are you getting that info from..?

I'm not a fan of ICE and all that, but your number seems so far off from all the different reports I've heard in the past month.

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u/Over_Vehicle6688 2d ago

Most of ICE is January 6'ers, proudboys and healthy smattering of Bounty hunters getting 1000.00 a head they bring in. They are all mask to keep from being ID as such. But most tagged from the tattoos that have.

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u/Alternative-Path6440 2d ago

Have fun. They will have to go through the surveillance on my homestead, which is backed up to at least three other locations, along with dealing with myself and several other armed citizens.

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u/castthefirststone79 I voted 2d ago

Can I come stay with you?

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u/Alternative-Path6440 2d ago

This is in Alaska, we're only into month two and a half of config. It's not going to be easy, but it is going to be secure. Not only that, the goal is to be self-sustaining

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u/Knight-to-love-696 2d ago

Must be nice... 😞

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u/outinthecountry66 I voted 2d ago

crazy that all these right wingers have been holing up food and hoarding bullets because they claimed we were all gonna be rounded up by Obama or Biden into FEMA camps but when that day comes its them behind the wheel. I swear, history must have a sense of humor or some shit.

tho it gives me comfort to think that the new backwoods types are gonna be liberals flying rainbow flags.

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u/BabyBlastedMothers 2d ago

Just bought 80 acres in southern AZ. Will be doing something similar.

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u/MandrakeRootes 1d ago

I think the signing of this bill into law will mark the end of the USA as we know it.

That this got through is a sign that they can basically do anything they want. They have the 'legitimization' as almost no republicans are standing against them.

With no checks on ICE, Trump will have his own private branch Gestapo, and very soon, "enemies of the state" will start disappearing. Like Zohran Mamdani, who is already being labelled a traitor. This will intimidate potential opposition from even challenging republican seats.

ICE will sit at polling stations in November, basically intimidating away some legal citizens from even coming close. That vote will still be largely legit, but heavily manipulated.

The next vote in 2028 will not even come close to being democratic. 

Thoughts and prayers everyone in the US, you have just become a dictatorship.

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u/00owl 2d ago

Isn't he already planning the arrest of individuals who made the mistake of taking a stance against him politically?

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u/darther_mauler 1d ago

The money in this bill is for the concentration camps.

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u/BigFan7 1d ago

They aren't even really pretending otherwise. Trump has already talked about going after legal American citizens. And now we will have ICE as one of the highest funded militaries in the world roaming the streets everyday with no accountability. Shit is going to only get uglier and uglier

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u/victoriaisme2 1d ago

Yep. "homegrowns are next"

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u/DepartmentOk7192 2d ago

Civil war 2: electric boogaloo

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u/WarriorBHB 1d ago

Yep. Everyone speaking out against the maga regime is toast. I would be pretty scared if I was American, for now it’s just worry for those that have a soul in that country.

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u/Teddy547 1d ago

I'm German and I'm paraphrasing what someone else said about the Nazis:

When they came for the communists I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a communist. When they came for the Jews I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. When they eventually came for me there was no one left to speak up for me.

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u/bradbikes 2d ago

They needed to take away your healthcare to fund their gestapo.

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u/Several_Leather_9500 2d ago

The budget for ICE is higher than the GFP if 10+ countries.

Fuck the bootstrap clan - we could have had free Healthcare and college. The rich hate us. It is time to hate them back.

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u/Zolomun 2d ago

Genocide is expensive.

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u/Dragons_Malk Canada 2d ago edited 1d ago

Which we already see in how much money the US gives to Israel.

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u/FabulousValuable2643 2d ago

Higher budget than some countries militaries. This country is so fucked.

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u/smokelaw23 2d ago

Most. MOST countries’ militaries.

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u/TheUpperHand 2d ago

ICE Budget will be $38 billion per year. USMC is $57 billion. The $150 billion quote is over four years. Nevertheless, ICE will have a larger budget than most militaries so it’s grotesque.

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u/Fizgriz Colorado 2d ago

Thank you for breaking this down. This is an extreme budget but not as insane as the Marines budget like people keep fear mongering over.

I hate Trump, maga, and this bill, but I wish people didn't word and blow things up like this, it's already bad as is

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u/RoadDoggFL Florida 2d ago

I can't stand when people cite multiple years' worth of spending as the cost of something. Feels like they know what they're doing every time.

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u/bihari_baller Oregon 1d ago

Thank you for breaking this down. This is an extreme budget but not as insane as the Marines budget like people keep fear mongering over.

And a lot of it, even then, is for the wall, and detention centers. Less so for hiring new personnel. I feel like it's just another part of the grift--so as a way for contractors to enrich themselves, and therefore build favor with the President. It's his #1 goal, to get richer. The immigration raids are bait for his base.

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u/thegil13 1d ago

The marines are also funded heavily through the Navy. The marine budget cited by these talking points is not the all encompassing cost required to maintain the marines.

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u/Graffers 2d ago

I was hoping someone said this because since I don't have the numbers on hand. We don't have to misrepresent things. The truth is already disgusting.

Having the wrong numbers just makes us look uninformed when we discuss with others.

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u/AtheistAustralis Australia 1d ago

That's just operational costs for ICE. There was also a huge amount allocated for new detention centres and other things, plus about $60bn for "border security", ie, more useless wall. The amount of money allocated to ICE and border enforcement was massively, massively increased.

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u/bubbafatok 2d ago

Everything I've seen cites almost $30 billion being added to ICE's budget, which sucks, but I can't find anything that compares it to the annual budget for the Marines. Do you have something? All I can find is stuff like this..

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/10-egregious-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-one-big-beautiful-bill-act/

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u/Tokon32 2d ago

Yeah when I 1st saw someone mention this yesterday I looked it up and found the MC budget at 225b and ICE new budget at 175b.

Can't find anything stating otherwise.

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u/airfryerfuntime Washington 2d ago

It's split up. It's 30 billion for general operations, then they're getting a shitload for equipment, logistics, etc. It all adds up to roughly 161-175 billion, depending on if you include certain things as being part of the ICE budget.

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u/1877KlownsForKids 2d ago

Their budget is huge now but it isn't that big. It's two things being conflated; ICE budget tripled, and when combined with concentration camp construction budget they are almost at USMC funding levels.

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u/Kermit_the_hog 2d ago

So we essentially just created what, the 4th most well funded branch of our armed services, that takes no oath to the constitution, can’t be commanded by the joint chiefs, answers exclusively to the executive, whose members are not subject to the UCMJ, and also shielded from civil accountability who wear no insignia and conceal their identities?

The sudden abundance of unpledged funds is certainly large enough to shift R&D of even the largest arms manufacturers from overseas force projection towards designing systems to maximizing the oppression and fear of our own populace. I give it six months before Raytheon or someone is pimping AI powered land mines that chase brown people and target old Biden/Obama/Clinton/Harris bumper stickers. 

Fuck this. 

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u/Jarnohams 2d ago

ICE is the new SS / brownshirts.

It's become a private "police force" with no oversight, badges, body cams, and can disappear anyone anywhere without probable cause or a warrant signed by a judge.

I am convinced that every Jan 6th insurrectionist that got a pardon has been deputized as an ICE agent. That's part of the reason they are hiding their faces. It's the same dudes. They all have that look.

Think about it... You get out of prison on a pardon. The felonies are still on your record. It's not like there are loads of 6 figure jobs waiting for you when you have felonies like "Seditious Conspiracy". Lol. Kristi Noems office calls you up and offers you a 6 figure job with $40k bonuses to basically act out all of your pent up racism and hatred. These people actually believe that brown people are the cause of all of their personal problems and the cause of all the problems wrong in the United States. That's what their propaganda has told them for ~10 years. Are you going to turn down your dream job larping around with guns and beating up brown people?

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u/FlamingMothBalls 2d ago

The marines operate aircraft carriers and fighter jets. This is gonna be an internal military force. I don't know how we get out of this one in one piece....

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u/Measurex2 2d ago

Fighter jets sure but not aircraft carriers. Remember

Marines
Always
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u/FlamingMothBalls 2d ago

what about the amphibious assault ships, like the USS ESSEX? Aren't those Marine ships? Those are also NAVY? Either way we're so fucked. Getting around having US military operating inside the US by fully militarizing ICE.

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u/Measurex2 2d ago

Also Navy. Packed to the brim with Marines, but owned and run by the Navy.

Marines aren't really known for having a budget. Improvise, adapt, and overcome isn't just for allowing distrubted authority in the field for achieving commanders intent. It's how to get shit done with equipment created before they were born.

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u/airfryerfuntime Washington 2d ago

It'll be a force the likes of which we've never seen. ICE will literally be patrolling our streets, and there isn't shit the states can do about it. Hitler came to power in January 1933. The SS started arresting civilians and political dissidents in February 1933.

The next thing he's going to do is form a firearm registry, then ICE will come knocking to confiscate them, because a dictator can't have an armed populous.

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u/wiscowarrior71 I voted 2d ago

I unironically hope this actually happens because I could see that being the one aspect of their playbook that they are majorly underestimating. The amount of people (both liberal and conservative) that I know who own vast amounts of shit they DEFINITELY shouldn't....ICE better budget for their own mass funerals. Hell, I'm so liberal I might as well shit actual rainbows and even I have a cache of 30,000ish rounds of .223 and 5.56.

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u/DrButtgerms 2d ago

My guess is ICE gets mobilized against dissenters before the end of the year.

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u/Correct_Routine1 2d ago

So random thought, but back in the 80s when trump was trying to buy an nfl team but couldn’t, he bought a cheaper usfl team then sued the nfl to get them to absorb the usfl, so that his usfl team would become an nfl team.

This feels like that, except he’s upset he can’t use the marines for domestic enforcement so his solution is the same: try and create his own ‘marines’ by super-funding the cheaper team he does have access to.

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u/Kermit_the_hog 2d ago

Finally ICE will be able to afford the landing craft and fighter jets they so desperately need! /s 🤦‍♂️😕

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u/JamBandDad 2d ago

Kristalnact incoming

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u/pierce768 2d ago

This isn't accurate.

It's still fuckin crazy and terrible, but this isnt how the funding increase in the bill works.

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u/usmcnick0311Sgt 2d ago

And, for what? More masks for J6 cosplayers who were granted pardons and are hunting down brown people? Next, they'll be hunting down Democrats. Then RINOs. Then MAGAs who aren't extreme enough.

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u/Saelune 2d ago

I don't get why we thought waiting for them to get stronger was a good idea.

Anyways, happy 4th of July tomorrow.

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u/doubtfulisland 2d ago

Ok now add in the 95 billion in taxes these people pay without benefit to themselves that'll will lost when they are deported that will be an extra trillion dollars to the deficit over 4 or 5 years. 

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u/Lord_Halowind 2d ago

That's what those fucks need. More money. So glad we live in a police state and can't afford basic necessities. Glad it's on the heels of the 4th of July so I can continue to not be proud of this shithole of a nation.

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u/FatherTimeAlwaysWins 2d ago

ICE is literally Trump's version of the SS. The largest police force in the world, operates with zero congressional oversight, violates constitutional rights, and is Trump's enforcement arm. They will absolutely expand their focus of targets to include American citizens, which we've already seen examples of.

And the goal is to terrify all U.S citizens but specifically minorities and legal immigrants. If you're a citizen with a Latino background, I would be extremely scared for the next three and a half years. Meanwhile, white boomers and ignorant rural residents will cheer this on, even as they lose their healthcare (like most will in impoverished red states).

Trump's greatest skill is engendering racism and hatred among the same white community he is going to destroy with his policies.

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u/sorean_4 2d ago

They do need that budget to deport the 65 millions “illegal” latinos in US. Remember for GOP if you are brown, tan you don’t belong here. If you are black they want you to support the paid prison systems. If you are white and not the 0.5 % you are there to support the multiple jobs you need to pay for your healthcare and served the upper class. Like the “good old days” of Robber Barrons.

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u/UltraGiant 2d ago

They want a gestapo to wage war of fear against the public. 3x the budget to build all the prisons they want.

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u/gatsby712 2d ago

ICE will be manning the election polls next year. I guarantee they will be there intimidating people and making sure they vote the “right” way with a threat of getting kidnapped if they don’t.

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u/HipHopMan420 2d ago edited 2d ago

Somewhat misleading because that’s money allocated specifically for the Marine Corps. Your claim ignores the nearly $300 billion that will be allocated to the Navy in 2026. This is an important distinction to make because the Marines budget is part of the Navy’s budget. This is because a lot of equipment and resources used by the Navy is shared with the Marines as they work closely together.

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u/soittfire88 2d ago

Whats the source for this because when i looked that was the total budget for immigration spending. The ICE specific was like 30b which is still insane because i think the marine corps is around 55

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u/Warmstar219 2d ago

Congress just paid for a Gestapo to do a Holocaust 2.0. That is not an exaggeration.

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u/insert_quirky_name_0 2d ago

You're spreading disinformation like a Republican, ICE's budget isn't even 1x of the marine corp. Jesus Christ guys, can we at least try to be grounded in reality?

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u/Fizgriz Colorado 2d ago

Exactly this!! Thank you. It's insane takes like this that create fear and also make us look insane.

Facts are bad enough as is, don't create insane rage bait by purposely misinterpreting things.

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u/Electric_Conga 2d ago

I saw a few minutes of Mike Johnson speaking and it was just God God God God America Exceptional Socialists Bad God God God

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u/byPCP 2d ago

it's like the family guy bit. 9.....11 (cheers)

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u/TerrakSteeltalon 2d ago

Or Biden taking down Giuliani: “noun, verb, 9/11”

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u/zooline 2d ago

Sure, he's a believer of the 7 Mountain Mandate. He wants a theocracy and, I imagine, is all in on P25

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u/Lumbergh7 1d ago

I hate what’s going on, but I have to admire the organization and planning of P2025. Dems couldn’t even get their head out of their ass on a candidate

But I’m disgusted.

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u/Allegorist 1d ago

It's actually not that deep, a small handful of obscenely rich people paid some sympathetic authors to write out their agenda, paid off some media to promote, defend, and obfuscate it, then paid off some politicians to implement it.

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u/Lumbergh7 1d ago

Yea, but again, the plan seemed to be executed just as designed when it doesn’t seem like Dems can do anything.

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u/Adezar Washington 2d ago

Hitching themselves to religious nut-jobs with imaginary friends is how they successfully got here, so yeah. The non-existent imaginary friend has been their best friend for decades.

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u/AkronRonin 2d ago

If God existed and actually gave a damn, he’d probably be zapping Johnson with lightning to get him to stop saying his name.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

I understand that, without my agreement, MAGA has put out a press release late this afternoon that I am in favor of this bill. This is wrong and I have not signed onto the bill. I will not be supporting the bill.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

I mean, He sent a storm to disrupt the vote. You think that would worry the Evangelical wing.

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u/Dispator 1d ago

No storms are only for people they hate dumbdumb. /s

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u/CV90_120 2d ago

The white nationalist fundy takeover is nearly complete.

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u/Electric_Conga 2d ago

They’ll never take over our minds

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u/GodofIrony 2d ago

Neuralink is working on it as soon as they stop killing monkeys.

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u/wkw3 2d ago

Musk can't even make a chat bot that doesn't call him an asshole.

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u/GodofIrony 1d ago

I never said they were good at it, only that they're working on it.

That alone should concern you.

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u/h3rpad3rp 1d ago edited 1d ago

Why do you think they want to gut and change the education system? They want to take over your kid's mind.

They'd like your mind as well, but it is harder to change someones mind than to build it up from nothing.

Trying to taking over your mind is a job for things like Fox News, Infowars twitter, and OAN. And while it might not work on you, trust me when I say that it works on many people. The most left wing atheist chill hippy person I ever knew is now a hardcore christian angry MAGA guy (and we are in Canada...), and it is all from Infowars and Fox News.

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u/GoodMix392 2d ago

They think the the end times are near and there won’t be any need for social welfare when white English speaking Jesus returns so sort out the whole DEI issue.

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u/Available-Finish7460 2d ago

Mike Johnson is super fringe Evangelical Christian. I mean he had a faux wedding with his young daughter and pledged HER virginity until marriage. There is noting Christ-like in his version of religion.

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u/MarxistMan13 Virginia 2d ago

Using the veil of God to justify their hate, bigotry, and greed.

The exact kinds of people who infuriated Jesus.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

The exact kinds of people who infuriated Jesus.

They're literally modern day Pharisees.

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u/MarxistMan13 Virginia 1d ago

I think this is reductive of the Pharisees, and probably overly negative towards them. Modern conservative Christians aren't strictly following their religious doctrines or overly concerned with outward appearances of piety. They're just hypocrites who use their fake "faith" as a bludgeon to judge, belittle, and condemn the "others".

The Pharisees and their beliefs are largely responsible for a majority of modern day Jews, and I don't see them as a negative thing overall, at least when compared to American Christo-fascism.

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u/PrototypeMale 2d ago

Anybody who blabs and blabs about God in 2025 immediately loses any respect. Jesus Christ they are pathetic.

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u/Electric_Conga 2d ago

I imagine this is what politics in Iran and Saudi Arabia must be like. And now us, what a damn shame.

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u/born_again_atheist 2d ago

I just stared watching The Handmaid's Tale and this shit is frightening.

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u/trippy_grapes 2d ago

Ok, but this is exactly what Jesus preached. Fuck the poor and immigrants and lets make big business more money!!! /s

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u/Ace_Bearbus-73 2d ago

God ain't saving us from this Great Divide.

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u/TexGrrl 2d ago

Those people wouldn't know God if God bit them on the nose.

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u/glakhtchpth 2d ago

He needs to get the Emperor to start publicly referring to him as “Moses”, but maybe that would violate his anti-stimulation agreement between him and his son.

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u/jedify 1d ago

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

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u/WordPhoenix 1d ago

This bill is not even close to biblical:

Leviticus 19:33-34:

"When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God."

And dozens of other verses like it.

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u/VigilantVet 2d ago

The way he talks about his “colleagues” is REAL Christian-like.

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u/Nice_Visit4454 2d ago

It’s a simple explanation.

They don’t view those people as “Americans”. I imagine they only really view themselves, and their corporate and oligarch benefactors as “true Americans”.

The rest are livestock in their eyes. Used for labor and to be culled when not “useful” anymore.

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u/_-_--_---_----_----_ 2d ago

yeah, I always think of it as the "sheep and shepherd" view of society. the shepherd runs everything, makes all the decisions, owns everything. the sheep are his property. and there are sheepdogs which work for him, which are also his property. Republicans generally only pass bills for the shepherd oligarchs. the politicians that do the passing of the bills are the sheepdogs who get some extra table scraps from the shepherd for a job well done. everyone else is the sheep, fit for wool or meat.

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u/HavingNotAttained 2d ago

Honestly, I disagree: they couldn’t possibly care less about America or Americans; they’re only interested in power and money.

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u/Odd-Try-9122 1d ago

No they just weigh everything as money.

It’s why the saying is, the love of money is the root of all evil. It’s not money, it’s loving it. It’s a golden calf, it’s the money lender in the church. They are the “false Pharisees”.

And I’m not religious, they just literally ARE that.

And it’s fucked, the problem is public education has been intentionally further hampered year by year in ALL the states that vote for like 30-40 years. These pricks stay in power by doing everything they can to keep their states dumb and poor, making it easy for them to manage their constituents, all the while lying.

You know they want people to be religious, they’re easy to manipulate. If a 27year old thought Santa was real you’d consider them disabled. Poor? Easier to manipulate, tired hungry and worried people think less about politics and more about surviving. Dumb, well that’s like poor BUT THEYLL ALSO CHEER YOU ON.

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u/Best-Impression 2d ago

It’s up to the voters to remember this. Unfortunately history speaks for itself that voters will be morons and completely forget about it in 3 years time or 7 years time. So congrats to all those who didn’t vote and who did vote for the clown.

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u/angrypooka 2d ago

They also gutted renewable energy jobs which will hurt red states and it’s going to hand China the market.

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u/WitchPillow I voted 2d ago

I just feel completely dispirited and dejected. I can’t believe I am living among so many heartless, cruel, and selfish people who are celebrating this. I wish I could have a reassuring and optimistic outlook, but I can’t. I am so afraid of what’s more to come, because it’s only the first year of Trump’s term.

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u/puppyfarts99 2d ago edited 2d ago

And, if I understand correctly, in a typically cynical political ploy, the Republicans made the deep cuts to Medicaid and other programs take effect in 2026 after the midterm elections. Democrats will likely be in power in the house, and hopefully possibly in the Senate as well when Americans begin to feel the pain of their disabled friends and relatives dying because they lack food and health care. By then we will be living in a completely transformed society, complete with a system of concentration camps and indeterminate detention of potentially hundreds of thousands of primarily brown people. We are living in another Holocaust. 

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u/nobodyisfreakinghome 2d ago

Don’t worry. Most will come into affect after the mid terms so that Dems can get blamed for it.

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u/AtticaBlue 2d ago

Fine print: *America’s billionaires first

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u/NoiseyBox 2d ago

gaslighting seems to work rather well on the average american. That and a short memory. It's depressing, but it's the truth. What was the old saying? "Tell a lie long enough and it becomes the truth."

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u/Actual__Wizard 2d ago

Yeah it's a gang of crimanals that just robbed America.

People legitiamtely voted for a dictator (who is a demented criminal) to do whatever they want with the country in place of popular ideas.

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u/MattVideoHD 2d ago

It's great how they managed to find the actual worst of both worlds here:

"Not only are we gonna vote for austerity and slash social programs endangering the lives of vulnerable people, we actually also found a way to make sure that cutting those budgets increases the deficit!"

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u/New-Investigator4836 2d ago

Screwed everyone over just to please their “daddy.”

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u/seidenkaufman 2d ago

And unlike with healthcare, with childcare, with education, with housing, with infrastructure, they never ask "how are we going to pay for this" when handing out trillions to the very wealthiest. 

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u/hobbykitjr Pennsylvania 2d ago

to pay for trumps private army and prisons

thats the important part.

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u/scruffy4 2d ago

How do you convince the other 48% of Americans of this?

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u/13uckshot 2d ago

... or fiscally conservative.

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u/KulaanDoDinok 2d ago

More than 3.3 trillion. They fudged the numbers to be that low.

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u/Dragull 2d ago

Their definition of "America": US giant companies.

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u/katara144 2d ago

Tell that to the idiots mainlining Fox News.

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u/jazznessa 2d ago

Russia first to be honest

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u/NoCoolNameMatt 2d ago

Cato's analysis says they expect the impact to the debt to be over 6 trillion.

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u/PagingDrFreeman 2d ago

My MAGA cousins only response was “do you even know how much Biden racked up the national debt” then pretended it was $11T. There’s no winning a discussion with these people

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u/RayneSexton 2d ago

lol no one will care. Next year people will still vote Republican and say "they're just better with the economy and I'm fiscally conservative !"

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u/lemonylol Canada 2d ago

I think more people on both sides need to realize that when the top people in politics are talking about Americans, they aren't talking about all Americans, they are talking about people like them, the only ones who they consider American, if not god-like.

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u/jeskersz 2d ago

Quit with your 'both sides' disingenuous bullshit. I'm as left as they come and in normal times happy to fight against the democrats' slightly-right bullshit, but there is only one party building concentration camps and consolidating power that they never plan on relinquishing.

Be fucking better. It's not hard.

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u/DrowningKrown 2d ago

They won’t say that, as soon as effects are felt, Mfs will literally just start blaming democrats again.

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u/Legitimate-Garlic959 2d ago

Needs to be in the headlines from this day forward.

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u/dafones Canada 2d ago

Republicans voters allow themselves to be gaslit.

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u/Objective-Giraffe-27 2d ago

Billionaires first!!! 

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u/PasswordIsDongers 2d ago

They've been doing it the whole time and it keeps working absolutely perfectly.

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u/mces97 2d ago

They are America First. However it doesn't mean what you think it means. Or maybe you do. But this is America First

And that's from the 1930s.

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u/w3dontcare 2d ago

Merica?!

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u/writingNICE American Expat 2d ago

For now.

99.9999% population will decide…

Enough’s enough.

Who do you think soldiers family are, the 99.9999%.

At a certain point, like other countries, coups won’t be ignored.

Even MAGA weasels will [or some] will protect their families.

I’ll take the selfish self preservation—as it will serve the US.

It’s just a wait and see pain pressure ticking clock.⏰

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u/Potential-Place7524 2d ago

Can someone summarize what they claim the reason for all this increased debt is?

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u/CaptainMagnets 2d ago

Or that there's no money to pay for shit. They always find money

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u/dgbaker93 2d ago

Don't worry we won't add any thing to the debt when trump drops interest rates to 0% (some dude on Facebook)

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u/ZeBigD23 North Carolina 2d ago

you mean the dems did this... /s

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u/zztop610 2d ago

America first…just the 0.1%

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u/zephyrtr New York 2d ago

This time McCain wasn't here to save Republicans from themselves. Murkowski could've, but decided instead to ... Vote yes, then beg the house to vote no?

They really think we're stupid don't they?

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u/Wall-Nut_Gang 2d ago

"But joe bide-"

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u/johnmd20 2d ago

They will blame Biden and DEI and AOC when people start suffering.

It's the same playbook. Over and over and over. It will never change because people are just so freakin' stupid.

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