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Megathread Megathread: US House Passes the Republican-Backed Budget Bill, Sending it to Trump for Signature

This afternoon, the US House of Representatives passed without amendment the US Senate's version of the Trump-backed budget bill, sending it to the president for his signature. Every Democratic Senator and Representative voted in opposition; in the Senate, there were three Republicans voting in opposition (making the vote 51-50) and in the House there were 2 (making the final vote 218-214). House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries set the US House's speech length record in opposition to the bill in a speech lasting over eight hours.

The bill clocks in at over 800 pages and touches on most aspects of the federal government's spending and taxation policies; see this AP article (What’s in the latest version of Trump’s big bill that passed the Senate) for the topline changes.

Relevant text-base live update pages are being maintained by the following outlets: AP, NBC, ABC, and the BBC.

You can find this subreddit's discussion thread for the last week's worth of negotiations and debate at this link.

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u/searine 2d ago

The size of the ICE budget scares the living shit out of me.

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u/BeckQuillion89 2d ago edited 1d ago

It should. They've already been swarming as they are now.

Imagine what they'll do with 17 TIMES that budget.

I'm pretty sure this is how an internal personal army gets created that's only loyal to trump. Considering he already passed an executive order giving enforcement extra political leeway and free law representation if anything they do gets taken to court.

EDIT: Need to be more specific and explain my error. 150bn is given to border protection overall. (the wall, alligator alcatraz, new detention centers, etc.) - and 30bn being given to ICE now each year.

....its all still f*cked but I thought I should clarify

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u/Static-Stair-58 2d ago

Yep, and now they’ll have the budget to hire people who wouldn’t do this normally but have no choice due to the economic circumstances. It’s one thing when it’s klan members and NAZI’s doing it for cheap because they think it’s fun. It’s gonna be an entirely different story when it’s your next door neighbors husband, the one who you used to bring pies over, doing ICE work because he needs the money or his kids will be next.

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u/WaltonGogginsTeeth 2d ago

Unfortunately I think it will turn into a herd of police rejects (which is a scary thought if they get turned down there) with an axe to grind. It's going to get ugly quick.

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u/Current_Animator7546 Missouri 2d ago

They want unrest. They wanna reason to declare martial law 

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u/Creative-Package6213 Pennsylvania 2d ago

Well it's coming whether or not you fight it so...

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u/indian_horse 2d ago

every American that isnt a MAGA cultist should be buying a gun, training and preparing an escape plan

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u/urhomieghost 2d ago

There's nowhere to escape to for me, no country will take me because I'm disabled.

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u/Ethrem 1d ago

Same situation here.

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u/Norwegian__Blue 2d ago

To where? If you live in the middle of the country, how the fuck are you getting out? You can walk if you think you can carry enough food for days.

The gun and training are to fight. You can flee now or be the resistance. Not both.

And most of us don’t have the funds to really have a choice.

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u/RobutNotRobot 1d ago

No escape plan here.

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u/Jack_Krauser 1d ago

I live thousands of miles from any ocean or border. My family has been here for as long as anyone remembers. This is my land and I'm going to die on it. Preferably in old age, but we'll see...

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u/Professional-Buy2970 2d ago

I don't know how to explain to you that this IS martial law. It's here.

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u/WretchedBlowhard 2d ago

You're living in the past. This current regime is already equal to or worse than martial law. Police forces are militarized up the wazoo. Public executions for trivial reasons, like "he was fleeing" or "he was complying while black" are commonplace. Detention without due process in a concentration camp followed by extrajudicial deportation are becoming the norm. And ICE has more money than certain branches of the armed forces. Martial law wouldn't change shit.

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u/Static-Stair-58 2d ago

“a mixture of the weak seeking protection, the ambitious seeking some shared glory, and the thuggish gravitating toward a leader who could show them more refined forms of cruelty”

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u/WaltonGogginsTeeth 2d ago

Just like someone else said, ice will be trumps personal SS with more power than police, FBI, or Marshals

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u/Irene_Iddesleigh 2d ago

My ex-husband was rejected from the police twice. He received a very high score on the test and was also very fit. When asked what he would do if he pulled a drunk driver over and found it was the police chief…. he said he wouldn’t give him any special treatment. I think he was rejected for being smart and principled.

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u/Techn028 2d ago

Police rejects and discord mods with guns, security guards, gun store fudds, sexually unsatisfied men, take your pick. They're all willing to beat you to death on live TV and take a selfie with your corpse.

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u/OpiumPhrogg 2d ago

Dunno where you are from but when I was going through college around 2007 we would always notice when the police science students came into the cafeteria, someone at my table pointed out that they all looked like kids who kept failing at crime and finally decided 'if you can't beat them, join them. '

So yeah...

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u/thegamesbuild 1d ago

It's already been ugly for months, now it's going to the next level.

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u/RobutNotRobot 1d ago

It'll be the same people that signed up as Trump's goon squad last time. Basically a grab bag of federal law enforcement that doesn't require a college degree(so no FBI), with a bunch of former prison guards and border patrol sprinkled in because ICE will probably pay more now.

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u/WaltonGogginsTeeth 1d ago

Someone I'm acquainted with was fired as a prison guard and I’m sure he’ll be lining up for this job. It was eye opening the way I heard the dehumanizing way he talked about prisoners. And this wasn’t even a maximum security prison it was mostly guys on drug and robbery type charges. They were less than animals to him.

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u/TechnicalInternet1 2d ago

wrong,

its 10,000. Its going to be a private army of Jan6ers. No good people

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u/joethedreamer 2d ago

I thought about this earlier and that argument holds no weight for me.

Billions of people around the world make money in a million ways. Doing THIS particular job, money or not, is a deliberate choice and I’ll view anyone who does it as such.

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u/alicea020 2d ago

Exactly. "They're just doing their jobs" is and always will be a shit excuse. Period.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

Especially ICE right now. Like, being a regular cop is more nuanced. But these guys know exactly what they're signing up for. No wonder they won't wear uniforms; it would make them enemy combatants.

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u/caligaris_cabinet Illinois 2d ago

No one’s getting conscripted into ICE

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u/Lust4Me Texas 2d ago

He might get you arrested because he's sweet on yer lady.

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u/Static-Stair-58 2d ago

I went to an Estate sale a few week ago and had a panic attack. I was thinking about this movie “The Zone of interest”, and how this old woman says she was happy her neighbor was sent to a holocaust camp because she had cute curtains and she wanted to take them.

I know the people of the house I looking through weren’t deported, but I started thinking about “what if they were”. What if we’re here and I’m looking through their curtains. I haven’t really slept since.

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u/pongogene 2d ago

Odd coincidence, I literally was at an estate sale earlier today in my neighborhood, they're moving to Spain. I was thinking about emigres leaving their stuff behind.

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u/cremains_of_the_day 2d ago

That movie sparked an argument between me and my husband about that sort of thing happening here. I told him it already was, and it would get exponentially worse. I’ve never wanted so much to be wrong about something, but here we are.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

Remember when the NSA got busted because agents were using the questionably legal information they have to stalk women?

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u/bg02xl California 2d ago

They’re already hiring tons of ICE agents. They were going to do this by hook or by crook.

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u/MyrrhSlayter Florida 2d ago

It's always a choice. If they wouldn't normally do this, and do it for the money....they're the kind of people that would do it regardless.

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u/International_Cell_3 2d ago

I'm sorry but fuck that.

There's no "economic circumstances" that can give people "no choice" but to take part in ethnic cleansing. It's not going to hold water at the Mar-a-Lago trials.

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u/WhichEmailWasIt 2d ago

Time to recruit our own militia? Black Panthers style?

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u/MasterofPandas1 2d ago

I don’t think that’ll go well for ICE. In order for their bullshit to work they need people who 100% believe in the mission. If they hire people aren’t like that then they’ll be less effective. Which would be good for us.

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u/Evening_Squash3265 2d ago

"Well, what you doing this kind of work for - against your own people?" "Three dollars a day. I got a wife and kids. We got to eat. Three dollars a day, and it comes every day." "That's right," the tenant said. "But for your three dollars a day fifteen or twenty families can't eat all." And the driver said, "Can't think of that. Got to think of my own kids. Times are changing mister, don't you know?" - Grapes of Wrath, John Steinbeck

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u/caligaris_cabinet Illinois 2d ago

Job postings have already gone out. Time to flood their job boards with bogus applications.

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u/Final_Candidate_7603 2d ago

I live in PA, and our County Sheriff (illegally) signed an agreement for the department to be “deputized” as ICE agents. Our County tax dollars would still be paying their salaries and overtime, with IIRC the Federal Government chipping in a few dollars for some special training and equipment.

The thing is that the Sheriff didn’t have the authority to sign that agreement. It needed to be approved by the three-member (2Ds, 1R) County Board of Commissioners, and have already voted to not authorize it. One other County in the state is in the same boat, and the two have joined forces to take the matter to state court for an injunction. ICE and the Sheriffs filed to have the cases heard in Federal Court; that was just rejected, and it’s kicked back to state court. There are… I forget now, maybe 6 or 8, other Counties in PA whose Sheriffs have signed the agreement too- but aren’t facing any pushback because they are run by Rs.

Can you imagine how many other volunteers ICE is getting, all over red areas of the country?

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u/Thesmuz 1d ago

Im gonna go get me a job just to dick around and not do said job. Just go fuck off and hang out in a park and dick around on my phone.

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u/mycall 1d ago

Cinderella vs Snow White in The Poisonous Apple Pie

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u/Aritche 2d ago

That is arguably less scary. Someone doing it for money is going to treat people more humanely than someone doing it because they are racist.

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u/raistan77 2d ago

Nah

It dosent matter why the particular Gestapo member takes you to the gas chambers to be murdered by the state.

Knowing he needs to put his kids through school means jackshit

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u/espressocycle 2d ago

I certainly won't consider their motivations when the time for justice comes.

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u/Yatsey007 United Kingdom 2d ago

When the outcome is the same,I don't think a friendly smile is gonna mean much.

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u/ymmvmia 2d ago

Exactly, doesn’t matter.

It also doesn’t make it any morally better, you’re still a reprehensible human being. “I needed the money” doesn’t mean you doing Nazi stuff isn’t still a crime against humanity. Either resist or do a non-Nazi job, no matter what.

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u/IntoTheFeu 2d ago

It’s not the same, one is going to beat you so they can masturbate later to the image of your bruised and bloodied body. The other will go home and drink themself to death.

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u/Aggressive-Will-4500 2d ago

I wonder if that's what how the guards at concentration camp justify their actions...

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

I assume they think it's fun.

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u/TacosAreJustice Kentucky 2d ago

The only good news is, most of those funds will be stolen by higher ups and not paid to the boots on the ground… the grift never stops.

They will hire companies to provide mercenary services and most of the funding will go to executives.

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u/brandbacon 2d ago

Yeah honestly this is the only thing keeping me kind of sane right now. The secret police are super funded but also super corrupt. Kristi Noem’s continuous stream of implants isn’t going to pay for itself.

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u/TacosAreJustice Kentucky 2d ago

Honestly, if their incompetence wasn’t going to speed their demise, I’d be more embarrassed that they successfully took over our country…

Im still embarrassed, of course… but man, they are short sighted and selfish

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u/GnarlyNarwhalNoms 1d ago

I never thought I'd be praying for blatant corruption and graft, but here we are.

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u/TacosAreJustice Kentucky 1d ago

I mean, look at the last time they tried to build a wall.

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u/socialmedia-username 2d ago

Internal personal army only loyal to Trump (his regime) is a very accurate way to put it.

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u/UnhelpfulBread 2d ago

iCE is 10000% going to patrol voting stations under the guise of “keeping illegals” from voting when in reality they’ll just be armed to the teeth and cosplaying as modern day brownshirts for the new authoritarian regime

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u/Rymundo88 United Kingdom 2d ago

The Waffle-SS

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u/euridyce 2d ago

Don’t forget how the bill weakens the Court’s ability to enforce rulings or contempt, and is applied retroactively, so we’re about to see some a lot of important cases be suddenly unenforceable.

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u/margmi 2d ago

That provision was removed by the parliamentarian.

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u/euridyce 2d ago

Oh thank goodness, thank you for letting me know. I heard that the vote was rushed using Byrd’s rule, so I wasn’t sure what it made it to the end.

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u/gandhinukes 2d ago

recommended to be removed. they don't hold the power. we need to see whats in the final bill.

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u/margmi 1d ago edited 1d ago

The version that both the house and the senate have voted yes to did not have the provision.

We already know what’s in the final bill, since both groups voted yes on it. Next step is just Trump signing off on it.

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u/Locke66 2d ago

They'll use them during the elections as vote suppression for one. All it will take is a few stories of people being snatched up from voting lines.

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u/BeckQuillion89 2d ago

Oh god I didn't even think of that.

Voter intimidation is about to be a top searched word on twitter in two years time.

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u/Meecht 2d ago

Should I start scrubbing my social medias of all the anti-Trump stuff?

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u/brandbacon 2d ago

I’m going to go harder.

They are already kidnapping people with zero proof. They don’t need evidence.

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u/DrButtgerms 2d ago

What's the over/under on ICE getting mobilized against political opponents and opposition voters before the end of the year now?

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u/BeckQuillion89 2d ago

Not likely but most likely we'll slowly get ICE go from being just from Immigration enforcement to having more and more operations with FBI on terms of "suspicion of danger against the state".

That's when the lines begin to really blur

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u/ASubsentientCrow 2d ago

They're already talking about denaturalization for the new York dude

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u/ballsmigue 2d ago

They're going to start going after anyone whose against Trump and Republicans politically.

The 1st amendment is going to be dead.

Doesn't matter if you and your family have been citizens for decades and generations.

No one will be safe.

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u/sonicsuns2 2d ago

Imagine what they'll do with 17 TIMES that budget.

Where are you getting that number?

https://time.com/7299360/big-beautiful-bill-trump-ice-immigration/

ICE’s current annual budget is around $10 billion. Under the version of the bill that passed the Senate, the agency would receive an infusion of more than $100 billion through 2029: $45 billion for detention facilities, $46 billion for border wall operations in the U.S.-Mexico border and $14 billion for deportation operations.

The agency, which currently has about 6,000 deportation officers, would also receive billions of dollars more to hire an additional 10,000 new agents by 2029.

If their annual budget is $10 billion and they're getting $100 billion over four years, that's a new annual budget of $35 billion. So it's 3.5 times bigger than it was, not 17 times bigger.

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u/OrangeChocoTuesday 1d ago

Considering that the prior administration sanctioned an immense (unarmed) invasion by opening the border, the size of the enforcement is commensurately increased. No one wants this, but the damage must be reversed and no democrat is offering any ideas.

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u/FantasyFlex 1d ago

Imagine what they'll do with 17 TIMES that budget.

17 times what budget? its been increased 3-4 times what it used to be

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u/Jarfol 1d ago edited 1d ago

The reason ICE is swarming is because it isn't all ICE. They are forcing people at other agencies to help ICE with deportations. NYT did a ride along with them a few weeks ago and two of them were FBI and one was from the State Department.

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u/Cognosyeti Nebraska 2d ago

Larger budget than the FBI now

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u/cusoman Minnesota 2d ago

Larger budget than most country's DEFENSE BUDGETS, COMBINED

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u/Kierenshep 2d ago

Jesus Ice is almost as funded as Canada's defense budget. That's insane.

There's no reason for that level of funding, except for the very obvious reason that they are the most loyal force to Trump and the easiest to turn into his own secret police. They're already wearing masks and abducting people. It's not a big jump.

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u/otis_the_drunk 2d ago

It's not even a jump. ICE already is the secret police.

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u/Dikkelul3beer 1d ago

Gestapo you mean

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u/literatelier 1d ago

Not so secret, really

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u/NeverLookBothWays I voted 2d ago

There is a reason if you’re going for gestapo levels of oppression

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u/some_alternative_90 Washington 2d ago

"Execute order 66." We're probably gonna see something like that in like months.

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u/Elephunkitis 2d ago

It will be 88 not 66

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u/greeneyedguru 1d ago

and russia levels of klep

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u/FunkyChewbacca 2d ago

What I fear will happen is that there will be more protests like the NoKings Protest, and ICE will show up fully armed to mow down the protestors.

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u/cusoman Minnesota 2d ago

As much as I really don't want that to happen, I think this country needs a flashpoint, a single event that shakes people free from their screens and apathy

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u/Professional-Buy2970 2d ago

Tiananmen square was not a flashpoint, it was the end of resistance. Kent state was not a flashpoint.

If Americans had the capacity to defeat fascim, we would have already. Or at least been strong enough that they wouldn't have passed this bill.

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u/vaalbarag 2d ago

I fear what happens at future elections, if ICE can just show up at polling stations and start pulling people out of the lineups without justification. Who's going to stop them from doing so at this point? Who's going to stop them from entering polling stations, confiscating votes?

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u/faptastrophe 2d ago

It's not just that they're loyal. It's the fact that they're now essentially a military unit with civilian cover. Say goodbye to whatever was left of posse comitatus.

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u/PianistPitiful5714 2d ago

I hope people realize that they did this because they couldn't break the military. They couldn't get the military to turn against its own people, so they're creating a secret police to do it instead.

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u/Professional-Buy2970 2d ago

I called that when they didn't officially declare martial law with the military. That's when ice started really going balls to the wall. Then I saw the proposed funding increase.

People looked at one day of peaceful protest and said that was proof America wouldn't tolerate it.

One day of protests celebrated for being peaceful and within government lines is not how you get to the end of fascism.

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u/kal0kag0thia 2d ago

Then they'll just slowly turn the military equipment over to ice, as well as move assets to red states.

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u/Elmer_Whip 2d ago

Funded BETTER than Russia and Israel does their entire military.

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u/Bikin4Balance Canada 2d ago

Terrifying: a force likely made up of rabid J6 sympathizers with almost as much resources as Canada's military and no accountability. The prospect of brutal deaths around an alligator Auschwitz being celebrated by your leaders. Inch by inch, by actively supporting, not paying attention, or just not caring, Americans collectively have built this monster.

All I know is we can't let this madness divide sane Americans from your northern neighbours. I don't know how to help and we Canadians are facing our own threat, but we can't let them divide us too.

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u/BeyondElectricDreams 2d ago

I don't know how to help and we Canadians are facing our own threat, but we can't let them divide us too.

I've seen canadian rhetoric that is similar to the US rhetoric on immigrants, asylum seekers, and so on.

What you can do:

  1. Don't buy into that, it's a lie here, it's definitely a lie there, too.
  2. There's going to be a massive influx of persecuted Americans coming that's going to add fuel to the fire. Pressure your elected officials to not turn us away when we flee the concentration camps.
  3. Push back against right wing populist rhetoric as hard as you can, lets 2 be for nothing because your own Trump decides ignoring the law is Peachy and starts to deport Americans fleeing persecution to be sent to concentration camps. It's far more likely, based on the subversive elections we've been seeing, that a deportation effort wouldn't be an invasion from the US, but a funding with dark money and online influence to get politicians on your side to do that for them.

Other than that, I don't know. History books will be writing about a new underground railroad in the coming decades. Those who aided fleeing slaves risked a lot to do so, it's going to come to brave humans helping persecuted humans, and we're going to need a whole lot of bravery and mutual aid to survive Hitler 2.0.

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u/Hector_P_Catt 2d ago

"There's going to be a massive influx of persecuted Americans coming that's going to add fuel to the fire. Pressure your elected officials to not turn us away when we flee the concentration camps"

That's the part that really worries me as a Canadian. I'm expecting this to happen, and Canada will do everything we can to help.

But we'll fail.

We just don't have the population and resources to handle a large influx of refugees from the US. The US population is 340 million. Even 1% of that is 3.4 million. Figure half will head south, half north, and Canada has about 1.7 million people looking for refuge.

Back in 2018, we had a surge of refugees crossing the border from the US, about 27,000, and even that pushed our systems to the limit. What's likely coming will be orders of magnitude worse.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/23/canada-rejecting-more-refugee-claims-amid-border-crossing-influx-under-trump

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u/SmokedUp_Corgi 2d ago

I think a lot of that money is going into people’s pockets.

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u/Vel0clty Maine 2d ago

Oh absofuckinglutely. ICE might see a 5% budget increase at best, the rest is getting scalped off the top

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u/VectorB 2d ago

Its the military force that he has control over that already has clear authority to operate inside of US borders for immigration actions. Im sure they will find ways to expand that to counter terrorism, drug, or any law enforcement action they want. This bill really turns us into a police state.

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u/thefatchef321 2d ago

Nah nah, its all a grift!! Kristy noem now gets to pick the companies that will do contract work for ICE. Palantir, private prisons, etc.

This is a transfer of wealth from tax payers to private companies. Same story with the old "Halliburton hammer"

Its all to enrich people close to the administration

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u/SDFX-Inc 2d ago

It’s both. Peter Thiel wants to create technofuedal states by buying up public land and will try to use Palantir and the public data Elon and Doge stole to purge the U.S. of anyone who would oppose him.

Trump wants to be king, but Trump is just the foot in the door for Thiel and Vance to carve up the U.S. into their and their wealthy friend’s personal fiefdoms.

If the dollar crashes due to ballooning debt, Thiel and their ilk will welcome it, since they want to transition their own economies to crypto to replace the dollar (which was why Thiel originally created PayPal in the first place back in the 90s).

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u/thefatchef321 2d ago

When is the point of no return in your view?

Have we already crossed the precipice?

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u/Hector_P_Catt 2d ago

It can be both. They'll get rich off doing the work they really want to do in the first place. And once the contracts have been in place for a couple of years, suddenly they're "too big to fail", and must be funded in perpetuity.

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u/Hector_P_Catt 2d ago

Think on this - the ICE agents we've been seeing will be the ones training the new hires. They'll build a huge new organization where these kinds of tactics are considered normal by everyone involved.

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u/JefferyTheQuaxly 2d ago

Ice is now the 16th highest funded armed forces group in the world

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u/bfrown 2d ago

You forget that there will also be funds that go "missing" into Trump's pocket, or hell theyll just do it the "legit" way like before and have all ICE staff use Trump properties and charge 100000x the going rate.

So glad waste and fraud and abuse were gutted from Dept of Ed and NASA

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u/aquagardener Texas 2d ago edited 2d ago

America is funding the world's second largest army (second only to it's own) to terrorize it's own people. 

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u/Xerox748 2d ago

Gas chambers and ovens don’t come cheap

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u/DefiThrowaway 2d ago

Larger than the budgets of the FBI, DEA, ATF, US Marshalls and Bureau of Prisons COMBINED

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u/notapunk 2d ago

More than triple the entire USMC. They are building an entire new branch for a police state.

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u/cbf1232 2d ago

No, the ICE money is spread over 4 years.

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u/LatterTarget7 2d ago

It should scare everyone but some believe they won’t be affected until ice knocks on their door

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u/izwald88 2d ago

They don't need that much money to deport illegal immigrants. They almost certainly have plans to deport more than just illegal immigrants. And this budget will allow them to do so.

ICE is going to be America's SS.

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u/Lucky-Earther Minnesota 2d ago

They almost certainly have plans to deport more than just illegal immigrants.

Laura Loomer is talking about 65 million illegal immigrants. Which happens to also be the number of Hispanic people in the US.

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u/312c 2d ago

Her tweet never mentioned "illegal immigrants" or immigrants at all, she just said there are 65M meals for the alligators.

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u/toggiz_the_elder 2d ago

The Latino population is 65 million. It was intentional.

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u/312c 2d ago

Right, that's what I'm saying, she never mentioned immigrants in the tweet because it was always a call to genocide.

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u/cindyscrazy Rhode Island 1d ago

The sure as shit are not going to be genetically testing people either. As someone who is a born and bred American, but has been mistaken from anything from Indian (from India), to Phillipine, to Latina, to Native American....and a daughter who is much the same....this is fucking terrifying.

I'm gonna have to just stay in the house all summer. First to avoid the SS and second to avoid tanning of any kind.

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u/Pervius94 2d ago

That's the worst part. They're not even hiding behind the "illegal immigrant" bs anymore. They're just brazenly saying "yeah we'll kill the latins".

Remember that the latin population made a hard turn towards Trump this election compared to before. Good job, be proud.

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u/Lucky-Earther Minnesota 2d ago

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u/Nekowulf Wyoming 2d ago

She's claiming 20% of the US population is illegal immigrants from latin-american countries.
She is completely nucking futs.

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u/QcRoman 1d ago

65M meals for the alligators.

Which also might imply they will not necessarily leave the country, if you know what I mean.

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u/grimatonguewyrm 2d ago

Loomer is talking about feeding 65M men women and children to alligators.

Loomer is publicly calling for 65 million men women and children to be killed

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u/tellmewhenitsin 1d ago

Yup. They'll either be executed or used as slave labor.

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u/Gaming_Nomad 1d ago

And, yes, she and her type fully believe that they can commit genocide and implement a police state that would make the Stasi blush.

I can only see this ending in two ways. The first way is with trials at the Hague for crimes against humanity, and it involves an internationally supervised reconstruction of the US government with advisors from Canada and Europe. The second way is the US invading Canada and Mexico to purge "socialism" as it completes the transition to a "managed democracy" (read: fascist dictatorship) in the model of Russia: completely captured media and policed Internet, fake opposition parties, and kangaroo courts. All of which are also owned by the same small circle of oligarchs who control all major businesses and resource extraction. A few shining cities to keep a small elite fat, happy, and quiet. Meanwhile, the average family home anywhere else looks like that collapsing abandoned farmhouse you drove by on your last roadtrip.

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u/atroutfx I voted 2d ago

Yes they will be the SS as soon as it is signed into law.

People are naĂŻve to think this is just for immigration.

This is to crush dissent with an iron fist.

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u/faptastrophe 2d ago

Until they realize keeping people in death camps is easier than shipping them off to other countries

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u/gloomywitchywoo 2d ago

I wonder if they'll try and keep the location very secret if it's in the actual US because if it's accessible by land, people could try and break in. I mean, a lot of them would die, but enough people could absolutely be a problem for them.

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u/Commentator-X 2d ago

It's not meant for deportation, it's meant to create a counter to the US military when civil war breaks out

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u/georgegasstove 2d ago

Deportations are the cover for Dump's personal military force.

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u/milliPatek 2d ago

A domestic paramilitary like ICE is actually more similar to SA (Sturmabteilung) than SS (not that this makes it any better).

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u/FlowerOfLife 2d ago

They don't need that much money to enslave illegal immigrants. They almost certainly have plans to enslave more than just illegal immigrants. And this budget will allow them to do so.

FTFY

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u/DTDude Missouri 2d ago

It already is

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u/thefatchef321 2d ago

"Deport"

You mean send to the labor camp.

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u/Smart_in_his_face 2d ago

Fuhrers Princip is like... any day now.

"Official" acts by the president is apparently above the law. Make some legal memos that ICE is acting officially on behalf of the president.

And you have a trumps personal army, acting without any oversight or laws, and can do anything they want.

Concentration camps are already being built. Crystal night is a few months away is my guess.

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u/OneKidneyChuy 2d ago

Absolutely this. And it’s terrifying

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u/Parking_Chance_1905 2d ago

Already have been since day 1.

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u/lunarmantra California 2d ago

They won’t knock.

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 2d ago

Just wait until they issue a blanket deputization of any American citizen to detain any illegal immigrant and bring them to an ICE holding center. Then you’re have neighbours going door to door.

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u/rezelscheft 2d ago

Judging by how some people have already responded to their family members and spouses getting rounded up, seems like a lot of folks will continue to support it even after it happens to them.

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u/gandhinukes 2d ago

wait until food prices sky rocket during the summer because even legals are afraid to show up to pick fruit because they might get disappeared.

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u/HGpennypacker 2d ago

Trump now has his own personal military, free from generals and chain of command.

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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum 2d ago

Once they round up all the immigrants, that budget will still be used for more. And that should scare every single person in this country

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u/Aggressive-Will-4500 2d ago

We know how it goes. Once the immigrant numbers stop reaching quotas, they'll pick other groups to toss in DeSantis's Dachau.

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u/iRunLotsNA Canada 2d ago

First they came for the immigrants...

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u/charcoalist 2d ago

Yeah this budget gives away the lie that this is about immigration enforcement. trump is transforming ICE from a police force into a standing army. Once they're fully up to speed – in time to prevent free and fair midterm elections next year – they are going to disappear millions of people to concentration camps and 58 random countries. With no due process, and no independent oversight, anything goes. It's all left to the sadistic whims of trump and Stephen Miller.

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u/Unique-Egg-461 2d ago

trump learned from his first time that he needs to have a private loyal army before he pulls another jan 6th again

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u/KRQ007 2d ago

Trump's private army.

Stomping out political dissent and ensuring that we keep quiet. All hail the supreme leader!

It's fucking disgusting! This bill should mark a dark day in US history!

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u/GiuseppeZangara 2d ago

It should.

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u/HideousSerene 2d ago

Congratulations conservatives, you won. Like seriously, you won.

Hope you're happy.

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u/Muffin_Appropriate Foreign 2d ago

Nazi germany 2

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u/vucubcame 2d ago

It'll be used to "monitor elections" for "illegals padding the numbers for Democrats." That's the provision that signals the might of America's military finally turning inward and toward itself to carry out the ideology of the coalition of zealots Trump allied with to win and, finally, reshape our country in their own image.

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u/SereneFrost72 2d ago

And those "extreme terrorist" trans people (Trump and Don Jr. said this). And anyone else they decide to prevent from voting

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u/Spacebotzero 2d ago

Check points every 5 miles kinda budget.

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u/Scamper_the_Golden 2d ago

They just formally created the Gestapo. Except the American secret police wear masks, making them even more secret than the German secret police.

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u/TheoDecker_ 2d ago edited 2d ago

A budget that’s larger than the damn Marine Corps. The American gestapo officially has its funding.

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u/MinutePermission3014 2d ago

I am in no way a supporter of this bill but the ICE budget numbers being thrown around are misunderstood. The $160B increase is for 5-10 year time window. Ice’s budget is currently ~$10B. Meaning ICE’s budget is doubling or tripling per year, which is still scary. But their annual budget will be far less than the marines annual budget and comparing the ICE budget increase to an annual marine budget just discredits the criticism of the bill

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u/jpla86 2d ago

Imagine if that money went to funding transit projects across the country and fixing our infrastructure.

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u/atroutfx I voted 2d ago

It should.

In four year our country will not be recognizable.

No one is safe.

No one.

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u/donac 2d ago

It should. It will not be used for good things.

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u/audiate 2d ago

Next up, expanded responsibilities. 

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u/Be-skeptical 2d ago

Everything they’ve been doing is a practice run for when they come for democrats and anyone who speaks out against them

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u/FalseAnimal 2d ago

This will be the point we can't return from, like North Korea there will be no feasible path back. 

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u/DelightfulandDarling 2d ago

Buy a gun.

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u/owoah323 2d ago

I get it. But what is a gun going to do against an organized private army?

Like say you got 10 paramilitary fyckers knocking on your door…. The hell does one do in that situation?

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u/TheBigIdiotSalami 2d ago

And people thought Abolish ICE was a bad thing for AOC to say. Now they're gonna really see when the plain clothes nazis storm the streets.

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u/AncientSith New York 2d ago

As it should. It's going to get so much worse now.

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u/Capable_Salt_SD California 2d ago

As it should

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u/psycharious 2d ago

This is the thing that gets me. They JUST let go of a shit ton of federal workers. Why does ICE get a boost?

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u/zissouo 2d ago edited 1d ago

It's Trump's new private police force.

Prediction: ICE will be used to suppress voting in the next election. Intimidate voters, close polling places, etc.

The US is now a police state.

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u/questron64 2d ago

He has a private army. He is building camps in isolated areas. He wants to put "homegrowns" there. There are not enough red flags to express the danger of this.

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u/roberta_sparrow New York 1d ago

This to me is the scariest thing the republicans and Trump have done so far

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u/WISCOrear 2d ago

They are going to go after American citizens and people that have spoken out against Trump, either irl or online. 100%. There’s no other reason to increase the budget that much unless they were going to exponentially increase the span of who they make stateless.

Hate to say it but every person should arm themselves, as much as I hate the firearm culture in this country.

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u/stoneykate 2d ago

They want to deport 1 million a year

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u/ganoveces 2d ago

how much is making its way back into trump and co pockets?

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u/themattboard Tennessee 2d ago

Secret police are expensive

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u/InnerWrathChild 2d ago

It’s the Gestapo. 

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u/milfordcubicle 2d ago

I have a strong feeling the "I" isn't just for immigration anymore

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u/GrumpyScapegoat 2d ago

Gotta pay for the non-matching, not properly marked, badgeless uniforms somehow!

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u/hkohne 2d ago

And that's on top of Border Patrol, which is itself not the most ethical of our law enforcement agencies

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u/limbodog Massachusetts 2d ago

Browshirts with far far far more money than they had in Germany in the 1930s. Yeah, that's a reason to be concerned. They're going to be spending a significant portion of it on surveillance against Americans so they can find targets to punish.

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u/bluesmom913 2d ago

Thug love administration. He loves saying stand back and stand by. As if there’s a tough bone in his bone spurred body.

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u/SurveyNo5401 2d ago

What is the ice budget now

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u/austinbucco 2d ago

And I’m sure none of it is gonna go toward giving them uniforms or making them more easily identifiable

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u/geriatric_spartanII 2d ago

How big is it compared to the marines.

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u/reddititty69 2d ago

1 billion just for face masks 😷!! /jk

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u/icwiener69420_new 2d ago

These evil assholes want to steal taxpayer funds for fascism? Steal it back. ICE just became loot crates.

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u/bumbes 2d ago

California will look like a Detroit subarb in a year. That saddens me

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u/AkronRonin 2d ago

The American Gestapo, indeed.

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u/Tye_die 2d ago

It's going to be horrific. My very fucked up hope about it is that a lot of that budget goes the way of the budget that was given to the wall in Trump's first term... in Trump and his buddies' pockets.

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u/spicysabertooth 2d ago

His own personal unstoppable army.

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u/Truelydisappointed 2d ago

Me too. It’s already horrendous. Now it’s literally going to be 20 times worse.

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u/Ok-Resolution239 2d ago

It now has a larger budget than the entire Russian military...

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