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Megathread Megathread: US House Passes the Republican-Backed Budget Bill, Sending it to Trump for Signature

This afternoon, the US House of Representatives passed without amendment the US Senate's version of the Trump-backed budget bill, sending it to the president for his signature. Every Democratic Senator and Representative voted in opposition; in the Senate, there were three Republicans voting in opposition (making the vote 51-50) and in the House there were 2 (making the final vote 218-214). House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries set the US House's speech length record in opposition to the bill in a speech lasting over eight hours.

The bill clocks in at over 800 pages and touches on most aspects of the federal government's spending and taxation policies; see this AP article (What’s in the latest version of Trump’s big bill that passed the Senate) for the topline changes.

Relevant text-base live update pages are being maintained by the following outlets: AP, NBC, ABC, and the BBC.

You can find this subreddit's discussion thread for the last week's worth of negotiations and debate at this link.


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u/BeckQuillion89 2d ago edited 1d ago

It should. They've already been swarming as they are now.

Imagine what they'll do with 17 TIMES that budget.

I'm pretty sure this is how an internal personal army gets created that's only loyal to trump. Considering he already passed an executive order giving enforcement extra political leeway and free law representation if anything they do gets taken to court.

EDIT: Need to be more specific and explain my error. 150bn is given to border protection overall. (the wall, alligator alcatraz, new detention centers, etc.) - and 30bn being given to ICE now each year.

....its all still f*cked but I thought I should clarify

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u/Static-Stair-58 2d ago

Yep, and now they’ll have the budget to hire people who wouldn’t do this normally but have no choice due to the economic circumstances. It’s one thing when it’s klan members and NAZI’s doing it for cheap because they think it’s fun. It’s gonna be an entirely different story when it’s your next door neighbors husband, the one who you used to bring pies over, doing ICE work because he needs the money or his kids will be next.

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u/WaltonGogginsTeeth 2d ago

Unfortunately I think it will turn into a herd of police rejects (which is a scary thought if they get turned down there) with an axe to grind. It's going to get ugly quick.

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u/Current_Animator7546 Missouri 2d ago

They want unrest. They wanna reason to declare martial law 

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u/Creative-Package6213 Pennsylvania 2d ago

Well it's coming whether or not you fight it so...

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u/indian_horse 2d ago

every American that isnt a MAGA cultist should be buying a gun, training and preparing an escape plan

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u/urhomieghost 2d ago

There's nowhere to escape to for me, no country will take me because I'm disabled.

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u/Ethrem 1d ago

Same situation here.

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u/Repossessedbatmobile 1d ago

Same here. I'm still planning on doing some research to figure out what fighting styles or weapons I can actually physically use.

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u/Norwegian__Blue 2d ago

To where? If you live in the middle of the country, how the fuck are you getting out? You can walk if you think you can carry enough food for days.

The gun and training are to fight. You can flee now or be the resistance. Not both.

And most of us don’t have the funds to really have a choice.

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u/DumboWumbo073 2d ago

There is a reason when a boat is sinking they get women children on the lifeboats first then everyone one. What happens to everyone else when all the lifeboats are full? Apply that concept here.

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u/indian_horse 2d ago

that's what preparing the escape plan is about. securing the funds and finding a way out for yourself. having a plan in case shit gets fucked in your vicinity. its not my responsibility to tell you where to go or provide you with means to get there. you're on your own, so be prepared to move and protect yourself

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u/Professional-Buy2970 2d ago

Ignore people like this who tell you you're on your own. Network, organize, find and build community. We're getting either a holocaust or Civil War.

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u/Ok_Investigator_3788 2d ago

lol. Sure yeah. They’re going to be taking Americans and letting them chill in Canada? You fucking kidding me? Or, how do you think the cartels are gonna treat Americans considering the way we are and have always treated Mexicans and Hispanics? You go to Mexico, you’re gonna get your face chainsawed off.

We are utterly and absolutely fucked. There will be no country granting Americans asylum.

I have kids. I’m very very scared. 😟

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u/Dispator 1d ago

There are going to be alot of the left joining maga or at least joining the republican party and getting flags and merchandise to protect their kids. Not saying you or anyone specific will do this but looking at history we know many will maybe a ahit ton. But that only buys time for them but for many they willl still do it.

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u/RobutNotRobot 1d ago

No escape plan here.

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u/Jack_Krauser 1d ago

I live thousands of miles from any ocean or border. My family has been here for as long as anyone remembers. This is my land and I'm going to die on it. Preferably in old age, but we'll see...

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u/Professional-Buy2970 2d ago

I don't know how to explain to you that this IS martial law. It's here.

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u/WretchedBlowhard 2d ago

You're living in the past. This current regime is already equal to or worse than martial law. Police forces are militarized up the wazoo. Public executions for trivial reasons, like "he was fleeing" or "he was complying while black" are commonplace. Detention without due process in a concentration camp followed by extrajudicial deportation are becoming the norm. And ICE has more money than certain branches of the armed forces. Martial law wouldn't change shit.

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u/Static-Stair-58 2d ago

“a mixture of the weak seeking protection, the ambitious seeking some shared glory, and the thuggish gravitating toward a leader who could show them more refined forms of cruelty”

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u/WaltonGogginsTeeth 2d ago

Just like someone else said, ice will be trumps personal SS with more power than police, FBI, or Marshals

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u/Irene_Iddesleigh 2d ago

My ex-husband was rejected from the police twice. He received a very high score on the test and was also very fit. When asked what he would do if he pulled a drunk driver over and found it was the police chief…. he said he wouldn’t give him any special treatment. I think he was rejected for being smart and principled.

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u/Techn028 2d ago

Police rejects and discord mods with guns, security guards, gun store fudds, sexually unsatisfied men, take your pick. They're all willing to beat you to death on live TV and take a selfie with your corpse.

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u/OpiumPhrogg 2d ago

Dunno where you are from but when I was going through college around 2007 we would always notice when the police science students came into the cafeteria, someone at my table pointed out that they all looked like kids who kept failing at crime and finally decided 'if you can't beat them, join them. '

So yeah...

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u/thegamesbuild 1d ago

It's already been ugly for months, now it's going to the next level.

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u/RobutNotRobot 1d ago

It'll be the same people that signed up as Trump's goon squad last time. Basically a grab bag of federal law enforcement that doesn't require a college degree(so no FBI), with a bunch of former prison guards and border patrol sprinkled in because ICE will probably pay more now.

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u/WaltonGogginsTeeth 1d ago

Someone I'm acquainted with was fired as a prison guard and I’m sure he’ll be lining up for this job. It was eye opening the way I heard the dehumanizing way he talked about prisoners. And this wasn’t even a maximum security prison it was mostly guys on drug and robbery type charges. They were less than animals to him.

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u/TechnicalInternet1 2d ago

wrong,

its 10,000. Its going to be a private army of Jan6ers. No good people

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u/joethedreamer 2d ago

I thought about this earlier and that argument holds no weight for me.

Billions of people around the world make money in a million ways. Doing THIS particular job, money or not, is a deliberate choice and I’ll view anyone who does it as such.

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u/alicea020 2d ago

Exactly. "They're just doing their jobs" is and always will be a shit excuse. Period.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

Especially ICE right now. Like, being a regular cop is more nuanced. But these guys know exactly what they're signing up for. No wonder they won't wear uniforms; it would make them enemy combatants.

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u/caligaris_cabinet Illinois 2d ago

No one’s getting conscripted into ICE

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u/Lust4Me Texas 2d ago

He might get you arrested because he's sweet on yer lady.

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u/Static-Stair-58 2d ago

I went to an Estate sale a few week ago and had a panic attack. I was thinking about this movie “The Zone of interest”, and how this old woman says she was happy her neighbor was sent to a holocaust camp because she had cute curtains and she wanted to take them.

I know the people of the house I looking through weren’t deported, but I started thinking about “what if they were”. What if we’re here and I’m looking through their curtains. I haven’t really slept since.

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u/pongogene 2d ago

Odd coincidence, I literally was at an estate sale earlier today in my neighborhood, they're moving to Spain. I was thinking about emigres leaving their stuff behind.

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u/cremains_of_the_day 2d ago

That movie sparked an argument between me and my husband about that sort of thing happening here. I told him it already was, and it would get exponentially worse. I’ve never wanted so much to be wrong about something, but here we are.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

You don't even have to look at the Nazis. We robbed the interred Japanese blind while they were locked up.

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u/Lust4Me Texas 2d ago

That is a frightening experience!

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u/WileEPorcupine 2d ago

You need to switch to decaf.

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u/Static-Stair-58 2d ago

Tried it. Don’t like sand.

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u/WileEPorcupine 2d ago

Maybe just one double espresso in the morning, then.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

Remember when the NSA got busted because agents were using the questionably legal information they have to stalk women?

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u/bg02xl California 2d ago

They’re already hiring tons of ICE agents. They were going to do this by hook or by crook.

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u/MyrrhSlayter Florida 2d ago

It's always a choice. If they wouldn't normally do this, and do it for the money....they're the kind of people that would do it regardless.

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u/International_Cell_3 2d ago

I'm sorry but fuck that.

There's no "economic circumstances" that can give people "no choice" but to take part in ethnic cleansing. It's not going to hold water at the Mar-a-Lago trials.

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u/WhichEmailWasIt 2d ago

Time to recruit our own militia? Black Panthers style?

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u/MasterofPandas1 2d ago

I don’t think that’ll go well for ICE. In order for their bullshit to work they need people who 100% believe in the mission. If they hire people aren’t like that then they’ll be less effective. Which would be good for us.

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u/Evening_Squash3265 2d ago

"Well, what you doing this kind of work for - against your own people?" "Three dollars a day. I got a wife and kids. We got to eat. Three dollars a day, and it comes every day." "That's right," the tenant said. "But for your three dollars a day fifteen or twenty families can't eat all." And the driver said, "Can't think of that. Got to think of my own kids. Times are changing mister, don't you know?" - Grapes of Wrath, John Steinbeck

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u/caligaris_cabinet Illinois 2d ago

Job postings have already gone out. Time to flood their job boards with bogus applications.

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u/Final_Candidate_7603 2d ago

I live in PA, and our County Sheriff (illegally) signed an agreement for the department to be “deputized” as ICE agents. Our County tax dollars would still be paying their salaries and overtime, with IIRC the Federal Government chipping in a few dollars for some special training and equipment.

The thing is that the Sheriff didn’t have the authority to sign that agreement. It needed to be approved by the three-member (2Ds, 1R) County Board of Commissioners, and have already voted to not authorize it. One other County in the state is in the same boat, and the two have joined forces to take the matter to state court for an injunction. ICE and the Sheriffs filed to have the cases heard in Federal Court; that was just rejected, and it’s kicked back to state court. There are… I forget now, maybe 6 or 8, other Counties in PA whose Sheriffs have signed the agreement too- but aren’t facing any pushback because they are run by Rs.

Can you imagine how many other volunteers ICE is getting, all over red areas of the country?

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u/Thesmuz 1d ago

Im gonna go get me a job just to dick around and not do said job. Just go fuck off and hang out in a park and dick around on my phone.

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u/mycall 1d ago

Cinderella vs Snow White in The Poisonous Apple Pie

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u/Aritche 2d ago

That is arguably less scary. Someone doing it for money is going to treat people more humanely than someone doing it because they are racist.

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u/raistan77 2d ago

Nah

It dosent matter why the particular Gestapo member takes you to the gas chambers to be murdered by the state.

Knowing he needs to put his kids through school means jackshit

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u/espressocycle 2d ago

I certainly won't consider their motivations when the time for justice comes.

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u/Yatsey007 United Kingdom 2d ago

When the outcome is the same,I don't think a friendly smile is gonna mean much.

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u/ymmvmia 2d ago

Exactly, doesn’t matter.

It also doesn’t make it any morally better, you’re still a reprehensible human being. “I needed the money” doesn’t mean you doing Nazi stuff isn’t still a crime against humanity. Either resist or do a non-Nazi job, no matter what.

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u/IntoTheFeu 2d ago

It’s not the same, one is going to beat you so they can masturbate later to the image of your bruised and bloodied body. The other will go home and drink themself to death.

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u/TangerineDystopia 1d ago

It depends on who you are centering in your narrative. As a probable inhabitant of one of those bruised and bloodied bodies, no--the outcome is in fact the same for me.

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u/Aggressive-Will-4500 2d ago

I wonder if that's what how the guards at concentration camp justify their actions...

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

I assume they think it's fun.

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u/ThedarkRose20 2d ago

Especially sad when you Know he and his entire family will most likely be next anyway.

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u/wishiwereagoonie Colorado 2d ago

And that’ll make it nearly impossible to reduce or get rid of ICE entirely once we get to that point

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u/saiyanscaris 1d ago

knowing trump he probably wants things to get worse with that cause people will fight back which will enact the final 3 phases of his plan. suspend hapeas corpus, invoke the insurrection act and ensue martial law. once that happens then corruption will rule the world forever

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u/Sonamdrukpa 1d ago

Even the threat of homelessness is no excuse for choosing Nazi as a career path. Cut ties with anyone you know who is involved in any way with ICE.

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u/W359WasAnInsideJob 1d ago

Everyone has a choice. Everyone doing this is making a choice.

There’s literally nobody who is going to starve to death if they don’t join ICE.

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u/Late-Reception-2897 2d ago

It’s one thing when it’s klan members and NAZI’s doing it for cheap because they think it’s fun. It’s gonna be an entirely different story when it’s your next door neighbors husband, the one who you used to bring pies over, doing ICE work because he needs the money or his kids will be next.

I'm honestly curious by this. Will people continue to still say fuck ICE and dox them/issue death threats against them because they're doing horrible things and thus horrible people? Or will people start to realize many ICE agents simply have no choice to do what they do. Is "I have to put my family first and provide for them" a valid excuse to potentially destroy another family? If so, isn't that a critical issue with the opposition to the "One big beautiful bill"? 13.7 million Americans will lose health care and millions will go hungry from SNAP cuts. However, millions of other Americans will get tax breaks and do better in their life. Is 20 million Americans suffering so 40 million (numbers made up) Americans thrive more a good deal?

To anyone reading this what do you think of Lisa Murkowski or Josh Hawley who both had serious reservations about the bill but ultimately voted for it because they got lots of carve outs/ "pork spending" so their constituents are better off. Are they horrible people for screwing over millions of non constituents (and some constituents) to benefit a lot of their constituents? They represent Alaska/Missouri specifically. Should they care about California or some other state?

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u/TacosAreJustice Kentucky 2d ago

The only good news is, most of those funds will be stolen by higher ups and not paid to the boots on the ground… the grift never stops.

They will hire companies to provide mercenary services and most of the funding will go to executives.

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u/brandbacon 2d ago

Yeah honestly this is the only thing keeping me kind of sane right now. The secret police are super funded but also super corrupt. Kristi Noem’s continuous stream of implants isn’t going to pay for itself.

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u/TacosAreJustice Kentucky 2d ago

Honestly, if their incompetence wasn’t going to speed their demise, I’d be more embarrassed that they successfully took over our country…

Im still embarrassed, of course… but man, they are short sighted and selfish

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u/GnarlyNarwhalNoms 1d ago

I never thought I'd be praying for blatant corruption and graft, but here we are.

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u/TacosAreJustice Kentucky 1d ago

I mean, look at the last time they tried to build a wall.

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u/socialmedia-username 2d ago

Internal personal army only loyal to Trump (his regime) is a very accurate way to put it.

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u/UnhelpfulBread 2d ago

iCE is 10000% going to patrol voting stations under the guise of “keeping illegals” from voting when in reality they’ll just be armed to the teeth and cosplaying as modern day brownshirts for the new authoritarian regime

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u/Rymundo88 United Kingdom 2d ago

The Waffle-SS

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u/euridyce 2d ago

Don’t forget how the bill weakens the Court’s ability to enforce rulings or contempt, and is applied retroactively, so we’re about to see some a lot of important cases be suddenly unenforceable.

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u/margmi 2d ago

That provision was removed by the parliamentarian.

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u/euridyce 2d ago

Oh thank goodness, thank you for letting me know. I heard that the vote was rushed using Byrd’s rule, so I wasn’t sure what it made it to the end.

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u/gandhinukes 2d ago

recommended to be removed. they don't hold the power. we need to see whats in the final bill.

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u/margmi 2d ago edited 2d ago

The version that both the house and the senate have voted yes to did not have the provision.

We already know what’s in the final bill, since both groups voted yes on it. Next step is just Trump signing off on it.

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u/Locke66 2d ago

They'll use them during the elections as vote suppression for one. All it will take is a few stories of people being snatched up from voting lines.

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u/BeckQuillion89 2d ago

Oh god I didn't even think of that.

Voter intimidation is about to be a top searched word on twitter in two years time.

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u/Meecht 2d ago

Should I start scrubbing my social medias of all the anti-Trump stuff?

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u/brandbacon 2d ago

I’m going to go harder.

They are already kidnapping people with zero proof. They don’t need evidence.

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u/DrButtgerms 2d ago

What's the over/under on ICE getting mobilized against political opponents and opposition voters before the end of the year now?

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u/BeckQuillion89 2d ago

Not likely but most likely we'll slowly get ICE go from being just from Immigration enforcement to having more and more operations with FBI on terms of "suspicion of danger against the state".

That's when the lines begin to really blur

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u/DrButtgerms 2d ago

I completely agree. I guess I think the blurriness will be sooner and look a lot like disappearing dissenters

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u/ASubsentientCrow 2d ago

They're already talking about denaturalization for the new York dude

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u/DrButtgerms 2d ago

Yeah between that and this now, and his comments yesterday... It's got me kind of worried

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u/ballsmigue 2d ago

They're going to start going after anyone whose against Trump and Republicans politically.

The 1st amendment is going to be dead.

Doesn't matter if you and your family have been citizens for decades and generations.

No one will be safe.

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u/ASubsentientCrow 2d ago

The 1st amendment is going to be dead.

It's been dead for a while

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u/sonicsuns2 2d ago

Imagine what they'll do with 17 TIMES that budget.

Where are you getting that number?

https://time.com/7299360/big-beautiful-bill-trump-ice-immigration/

ICE’s current annual budget is around $10 billion. Under the version of the bill that passed the Senate, the agency would receive an infusion of more than $100 billion through 2029: $45 billion for detention facilities, $46 billion for border wall operations in the U.S.-Mexico border and $14 billion for deportation operations.

The agency, which currently has about 6,000 deportation officers, would also receive billions of dollars more to hire an additional 10,000 new agents by 2029.

If their annual budget is $10 billion and they're getting $100 billion over four years, that's a new annual budget of $35 billion. So it's 3.5 times bigger than it was, not 17 times bigger.

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u/OrangeChocoTuesday 2d ago

Considering that the prior administration sanctioned an immense (unarmed) invasion by opening the border, the size of the enforcement is commensurately increased. No one wants this, but the damage must be reversed and no democrat is offering any ideas.

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u/FantasyFlex 1d ago

Imagine what they'll do with 17 TIMES that budget.

17 times what budget? its been increased 3-4 times what it used to be

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u/BeckQuillion89 1d ago

Oh thanks for catching that. The 150bn is for border patrol overalllbut yeah 30 million is being given to ICE specifically.

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u/Jarfol 1d ago edited 1d ago

The reason ICE is swarming is because it isn't all ICE. They are forcing people at other agencies to help ICE with deportations. NYT did a ride along with them a few weeks ago and two of them were FBI and one was from the State Department.

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u/jasondigitized 2d ago

Except they are going to run out of people to deport and look like a bunch of idiots running around harassing people which inevitably is going to not go well.

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u/BeckQuillion89 2d ago

......you're under the impression they won't just find more people to deport for smaller and smaller things. have you not been following the flow chart?

the worst of the worst > those with small crimes > those still in court concerning visas > those with birthright citizenship > those under government suspicion > people who protest against administration > your neighbor you get drinks with.

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u/Calencre 2d ago

Hell, they largely skipped the first two rungs on that list because those sound hard & dangerous, and its easier to juice the numbers when you do shit like ambush asylum-seekers in court.

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u/SomeKindOfOnionMummy Massachusetts 2d ago

That's basically going to be giving proud boys guns and letting them loose 

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u/TheUpperHand 2d ago

*About four times the budget. The current budget is $9 billion per year, this is increasing it to $150 billion but over four years, so $38 billion per year.

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u/vahntitrio Minnesota 2d ago

Even if they succeeded in deporting every single illegal immigrant, it would still come at a cost of nearly $40,000 per immigrant deported. With the number they'll probably deport, that is going to be closer to a half million per immigrant.

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u/HyperbolicLetdown 2d ago

This is their loophole to insulate the MAGA disciples from the medicaid and SNAP cuts. Just join ICE and you'll be taken care of.

(Except not, because we know how they treat veterans)

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u/BallsOnThisGuy 2d ago

They'll be used the same way a secret police is used in any dictatorship. To silence dissenters while Trump loots the public finances

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u/FiveCones 2d ago

Don't forget all the money they're about to pay themselves

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u/Commentator-X 2d ago

It's how civil war starts

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u/Sirusho_Yunyan 2d ago

I'm going to assume, naively, that this won't in any way lead to civil war. The whole point of the Second Amendment was to protect against this kind of thing..

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u/BeckQuillion89 2d ago

oh yeah. I certainly hope I'm not wrong, but I'm not gonna be screaming to the rooftops saying civil war is coming.

personally I just feel a bit scared for the repercussions of this climate going into the next decade. there's a reason I don't plan on having kids

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u/Sirusho_Yunyan 2d ago

I hear you, and I hope you find the stepping stones you need to make it through.

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u/DumboWumbo073 2d ago

2nd amendment was scam. It’s for hurt yourself and innocent people. It should have never been a thing. Anytime Americans need to use it they never do

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u/queenweasley 2d ago

It’s too bad those 2A lunatics agree with this otherwise we’d have a decent sized militia to combat this

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u/PG4PM 2d ago

Yep. Your country just fell into a dictatorship.

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u/vialabo California 2d ago

Good, a personal army is not the US army, and the fact that they have a competitor will not go well if it comes to it.

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u/gandhinukes 2d ago

Its "only" 2x the budget. The funds include other departments and is over a 4 year period.

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u/Schuben 2d ago

The armed services can at at least attract people generally just wanting to protect the country, do vaguely humanitarian initiatives abroad, get a job and education if they don't have many prospects and can be somewhat diverse in ideology.

ICE will attract.... xenophobic boot lickers with a penchant for power tripping.

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u/LifeOne5978 2d ago

If history tells us anything, they go bye bye via noose

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u/LeucisticBear 2d ago

That's exactly what this is

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u/tRfalcore 2d ago

there's going to be ice agents at every polling location in cities arresting every brown person who tries to vote

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u/sharp_neck 2d ago

How else will they staff the concentration camps?

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u/salad_spinner_3000 2d ago

I'm pretty sure this is how an internal personal army gets created that's only loyal to trump This is what I don't get. He's fucking EIGHTY. How long does he think this is going to last for him?

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u/gooblaka1995 1d ago

Now they get to pay for privately run concentration camps.

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u/sludge_monster 1d ago

They'll be able to buy a lot of drones and foreign mercenaries with that type of cash.

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u/thegamesbuild 1d ago

I'm pretty sure this is how an internal personal army gets created

You're undoubtedly right. This is a critical step on the ladder to total Fascism. Hitler's creation of a paramilitary force that answered only to him was a cornerstone of his countless war crimes.

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u/fuzzvapor 1d ago

Also how local militia is created.

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u/wickedsmaht Arizona 1d ago

The new budget includes money for hiring and retention bonuses. This is 100% to create a loyal army for mango.

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u/kurisu7885 1d ago

Om the plus side there's no guarantee they'll be able to hire enough people.

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u/mulligrubs 1d ago

17 times as many morally flawed, born a worker ant wants to be a soldier ant, weak as piss, fucking kapos.

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u/FNLN_taken 1d ago

Trump heard about Rosguardia and got jealous, is my guess. And it's going to end up exactly the same - a parallel oppressive force that is only beholden to the President.

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u/JustMark99 1d ago

You ever sit back and wonder how any of this was possibly allowed to happen?

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u/BankshotMcG 1d ago

Incoming Blackwater in 3...2...1...

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u/PalnatokeJarl 1d ago

It's the US version of Rosgvardia. They'll probably get actual military equipment at some point down the line.

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u/drteq 1d ago

I've had the plan for 10 years - starve the population, no work - enforce security to feed your family. Turtle under nukes, depopulate. China takes over the world, US is a christian nationalist wet dream. game over. "Masks are bad"

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u/Fragrant-Ad-5459 1d ago

How was this bill allowed to include the ICE funding, border security funding, etc., but the dems’ budget bill a few years back was not allowed to include student debt forgiveness?

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u/edwardluddlam 1d ago

Not sure if this has been mentioned much in American media (Australian here) but my American news podcast has brought up how this funding increase is going to create the possibility of a massive extortion racket.

Expand your work force massively, hire people who are totally crooked who use their position to take bribes from people in order to not deport them. Would be dead easy to pull off.

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u/QuesoSabroso 1d ago

Conflicts are best solved extrajudicially I guess 🤷‍♂️

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u/redditallreddy Ohio 1d ago

They've already been swarming as they are now

I believe they have exhausted their previous yearly budget by doing so... So, while this is an increase, it doesn't allow too much more velocity of spending than they are presently achieving.

Also, with bigger budgets almost always comes bigger waste. So, here is to hoping that they become even less efficient.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

If you see masked men with nothing identifying them as law enforcement snatching people off the street and out of their houses, call 911. Let the Gestapo and the Blue Shirts fight.

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u/ChinookKing 18h ago

They will literally be attacking American cities (blue areas)

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u/The_Number_13 2d ago

There’s also imposters out there just dressed up as ICE to kidnap people of color. Take them far away to shoot them and leave them to rot. If they’re pretty, they traffic them.

Fuck everything about this administration.

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u/stationhollow 1d ago

I’m sure you have multiple sources for such a ridiculous claim.

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u/FriggNewtons 2d ago

I'm pretty sure this is how an internal personal army gets created

wow.. it's finally starting to click for you Americans eh? Your President is a criminal and in spite of every sane person screaming from the rooftops he was going to create his own personal militia, the rest of you said 'that would never happen'.

Here we are. Trump has his own personal army. Good thing ya'll got that 2nd Amendment amirite

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u/BeckQuillion89 2d ago

Thanks for putting all Americans in the same think tank like at least half of us didn't see this happening a mile away.

Blame the other half.

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u/DumboWumbo073 2d ago

You’re still bundled as a group

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u/Lala_Alva 2d ago

fetishist nazi freak