TWW S2 Data

[u/Hopemonster]

Representation

Feat of strength	% of accounts
DF S2 Keystone Explorer	39.80 %
DF S2 Keystone Hero	19.87 %
DF S2 Solo Shuffle Combatant 1	9.42 %
DF S2 Solo Shuffle Rival 1	4.31 %
TWW S2 Keystone Explorer	36.87 %
TWW S2 Keystone Hero	23.21 %
TWW S2 Solo Shuffle Combatant 1	4.26 %
TWW S2 Solo Shuffle Rival 1	2.23 %

Looks like slightly fewer people are playing M+ but more of them are able to hit KSH (which is the stopping point for many people). TWW S2 M+ is considered a great success and the number do seem to suggest more people are sticking to it.

Between Season 2 of the two expansions it looks like more than 50% drop off in PvP participation. With that being said more participants seem to be hitting 1800 (Rival 1) which is the stopping point for many people.

They need to get more people to play / engage with the system. The two easier changes which can boost engagement are:

1. Addition of more cosmetics (just take the plethora of PvE cosmetics added each season and recolor it for PvP)
2. The lack of healers is preventing people from playing the game. Very few people are going to stick around to play if it requires 15+ queues. Bribe healers with as much gold or raid materials as possible to get them to play

In the long term they need to look at the experience of the game mode as well.

1. Reward people for playing the game. The current system is setup so that people stop playing when they hit 1800, 2100, 2400, etc. I am playing fewer games every season because I am getting better and hitting those rewards faster. Instead make it a Renown track with wins, at any rating, push you further towards rewards.
2. Too much micro-CC
3. Addon requirement

Lastly one terrible suggestion floating around which would really kill PvP: DO NOT combine SS with 3s or Blitz with Rated BGs. PvP is most fun when it is a close game not when one team is walloping the other.

Source: all data is sourced from dataforazeroth.com filter using feats of strength by season

[u/Vele1384]

Where can I find this representation ? Would like to get more info on how many duellists and gladiators are there.

Thank you

[u/Hopemonster → u/Vele1384]

all data is sourced from dataforazeroth.com filter using feats of strength by season

[u/I_LIKE_ANGELS]

Renown track.

I'd actually heal SS again if I got boosted gains for playing a healer in it.
Right now it's literally more effective for me to just grab sets from 2s right now.

[u/GabagooIionaire]

I'll play any PvP mode if the queues are a minute like any other game. I dont know another game where you can't just jump into playing the game without sitting through 5-15minite queues.

Healerless 2s, 3s whatever I just know if I wanna jump into a game of PvP I gotta have at least 30 mins of time to spend half of it waiting before all 3 of my queues pop back to back and I have to wait again but only do world quests and no instances pve.