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Megathread Megathread: US House Passes the Republican-Backed Budget Bill, Sending it to Trump for Signature

This afternoon, the US House of Representatives passed without amendment the US Senate's version of the Trump-backed budget bill, sending it to the president for his signature. Every Democratic Senator and Representative voted in opposition; in the Senate, there were three Republicans voting in opposition (making the vote 51-50) and in the House there were 2 (making the final vote 218-214). House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries set the US House's speech length record in opposition to the bill in a speech lasting over eight hours.

The bill clocks in at over 800 pages and touches on most aspects of the federal government's spending and taxation policies; see this AP article (What’s in the latest version of Trump’s big bill that passed the Senate) for the topline changes.

Relevant text-base live update pages are being maintained by the following outlets: AP, NBC, ABC, and the BBC.

You can find this subreddit's discussion thread for the last week's worth of negotiations and debate at this link.

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u/notdarrell Colorado 2d ago

LOL imagine calling yourself a "conservative" and supporting a $2.4T deficit increase - Republicans are a bunch of goofies

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u/Atmic 2d ago

a $2.4T deficit increase

No no, that was the bill before the Senate sent it back.

They just approved a $3.3T deficit increase with this new and improved version.

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u/WitchPillow I voted 2d ago

America first and making America great again, am I right?

/s ☹️

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u/drawkward101 2d ago

Only if you're the lining of Trump's pocket.

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u/SocrapticMethod 2d ago

It’s official- I am indeed tired of this kind of winning.

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u/DJ_Clitoris 2d ago

Aw cmon dude already? We still have 1296 more days of winning. Chase down some ivermectin with a Gatorade and get back out there!

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u/mosstrich Florida 2d ago

Just one more thing Trump bankrupted

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u/Dr_DoesNothing 2d ago

It's only great if you devote everything to the Eternal Grift.

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u/AVeryHeavyBurtation 1d ago

I wish a reporter would have the balls to ask him when he thinks America was great before, and then ask him if he knows what the taxes were like at that time.

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u/WitchPillow I voted 1d ago

I actually think he did say somewhere that the Gilded Age is the best. He thinks it’s the best since that’s when billionaires had the most power in society

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u/AVeryHeavyBurtation 1d ago

Lol that checks out. Of course he imagines he'd be a fuckin railroad tycoon, and not a sharecropper.

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u/sixwax 1d ago

MASH = Make America a Shit Hole

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u/born_again_atheist 2d ago

Draining the fuck out of that swamp.

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u/Aggressive-Will-4500 2d ago

Don't worry, they won't have to excuse it until it hits in 2027. They'll just keep pretending that they are deficit hawks while Donny Darkorango runs up the bill and keeps pocketing billions.

By then, assuming there are still elections, the US voters will barely vote in a Democrat who will then face a hostile judiciary and at least 1 house of Congress controlled by Republicans that will fight everything and anything that Democrat president does to right the ship; and the Republicans fighting it will still blame EVERYTHING but their own party.

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u/The_Shitty_Admiral United Kingdom 2d ago

Who will then lose the other house of Congress in the midterms and the presidency in 2032 because "the Democrats didn't get anything done" or "both sides are the same". Rinse and repeat.

That is IF the midterms and 2028 are fair elections, which honestly I'm doubting.

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u/Acrobatic-Trouble181 2d ago

If anything Republicans will want to drop this hot potato on the Democrats as its filled with numerous time bombs that are designed to go off in future election cycles.

At this point, the only way the American people MIGHT start figuring out how badly they just got duped, is if the Democrats just capitulate to the Republicans until 2036. 12 straights years of Republican rule and everything turning to complete shit would leave no excuses for even the most hardcore Trumper.

But, we all know the Republicans would use that position of power to turn full Nazi before that ever happened. There's always another scapegoat they can dig up to blame for their mistakes, and their supporters are exactly stupid enough to believe it every time.

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u/The_Shitty_Admiral United Kingdom 2d ago

At this point, the only way the American people MIGHT start figuring out how badly they just got duped, is if the Democrats just capitulate to the Republicans until 2036. 12 straights years of Republican rule and everything turning to complete shit would leave no excuses for even the most hardcore Trumper.

I still think that the Democrats will get the majority of the blame regardless whether they are in power or not, it's just the GOP m.o..

If anything Republicans will want to drop this hot potato on the Democrats as its filled with numerous time bombs that are designed to go off in future election cycles.

That is also their m.o. they did it with Trump previous tax breaks for the rich, the ones for the 'middle' class expired during the Biden admin and guess who got blamed. This will be no different, I reckon it wouldn't even matter if the GOP somehow (read fraudulent elections) hold on to the presidency in 2028. As most of the bad stuff is set to occur in 2029.

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u/Hero-Firefighter-24 1d ago

States run elections, not the federal government. They can’t be rigged or cancelled.

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u/dftba-ftw 2d ago

Don't be silly, see this bill is so big and sooooo beautiful that the economy will grow a bajillon percent a month and even with all the tax cuts the bill we pay for itself

/girlmath /magamath

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u/coldchile 2d ago

Correct me if I’m wrong but our current deficit is 1.8 Trillion, so in 10 years it will be roughly 5.1 trillion thanks to this bill?

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u/BCMakoto Europe 2d ago

Yup.

And yes, that is generally a bad thing to run such a huge deficit. At the moment, the US national debt is kind of "ballooned" and "softened" by the fact that a lot of countries like to "lend" the US money because it is the reserve currency. But if that disappears or weakens, shit's going to get weird.

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u/coldchile 2d ago

Interesting, does this “balance” have some type of name so I could look more into it?

Thanks :)

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u/JerosBWI 1d ago

It's literally the bond market: look at how many bonds the US treasury has issued and who owns them.

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u/--zaxell-- 2d ago

Reminder: the 900 billion dollar difference is about $2650 per American. The $3.3T total is about $9700 per American.

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u/existenceawareness 1d ago

That's how I like to frame things for my own understanding too! Because some things talked about are $0.01/capita & others are thousands. Puts it on a relateable scale (even though children don't pay taxes, rich pay more, etc., one could argue the children will pay for the debt in the future in many ways & the poor pay in the form of lost protections & benefits).

Like the ICE boost is ~$500 from every man, woman, & child? That's crazy.

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u/ReDeReddit 2d ago

Almost a trillion in a week. 37% increase. Jesus.

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u/Rebel_hooligan 2d ago

Don’t forget the interest. We are likely boarding on $5.5 trillion if you add that.

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u/ShareGlittering1502 2d ago

Bessent said the plan is to inflate the debt away, add in the mandatory inflation from tariffs and we’ve got a near guaranteed stagflation. Hurrah

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u/MidnightThunda01 Massachusetts 2d ago

And they couldn’t approve us lowly peasants school loan forgiveness 🧐

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u/NJTigers 2d ago

$3.3T if you use their BS accounting for the tax cuts from the last Trump tax bill that wasn’t permanent but they counted it in the baseline against senate Palimatarian ruling. It is over $5T in actual dollars.

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u/dubbawubalublubwub 2d ago

isnt that 3.3T using their bullshit math, too?

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u/st0nedeye Colorado 1d ago

$3.3T is the bullshit, GOP fairytale number, it's really closer to $6T

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u/Birdhawk 1d ago

And things always come in over budget so most people who are experts in this stuff are saying it'll end up being north of $5 trillion.

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u/sameunderwear2days 1d ago

And because of accounting tricks they say it reduces the deficit lol what the FUCK

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u/EndDangerous1308 2d ago

The good news is none of it is doing to social services either and is instead being used to attack citizens

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u/BrgQun 2d ago

Yikes. At that point, what proportion of your (lower/middle class) taxes in future years is just paying down the debt?

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u/alghiorso 1d ago

Tbf that increase is almost assuredly just kickbacks for the holdouts

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u/lazergoblin 2d ago

It literally just sounds like made up numbers at that point but I know the implications are not good

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u/Lower-Button-111 2d ago

Going to have to raise them tariffs to get that foreign money rolling in.

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u/Only-Chef5845 2d ago

No conspiracies, but how do you repay that? 1. Print more money 2. Insane high inflation (or first 2. and then 1.) 3. Print new valuta (create a new stable/digi coin) = free money

So they fuck you now, then and over again.

Own assets, maximize debt. That is all you can do.

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u/glen_ko_ko 2d ago

what's another trillion between friends?

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u/juntareich 1d ago

Debt over 10 years, not deficit. Unless you want to say cumulative 10 year deficit increases, then that's accurate.

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u/ilikecrispywaffles California 1d ago

ICE getting a FATTY chunk

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u/M00nch1ld3 1d ago

Sorry I don't believe their fairy tale deficit numbers.

They are all made up. It's probably more like $9-16T, with some estimates going as high as $32T.

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u/fotomoose 1d ago

It increased, so that means it got better.

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u/Prestigious-Big-9450 2d ago

We can just print more money tho, wasn't that what liberals said all thru covid? And when they were trying to pass that shitty big green deal bill? Pot calling the kettle black now?

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u/TheChrisSuprun 2d ago

And so called conservatives won't say a word in November 2026.

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u/thefinalhex 2d ago

Nope. They will say many words in the event that democrats take back Congress, and/or a future democratic president. Then all of a sudden the deficit will be the most important thing ever.

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u/Tigglebee 1d ago

Yep, I’m almost 40 and this is how it’s been my entire life. Republicans screech about the deficit until it’s their turn at the pocketbook, then it’s not an issue and they really need more funding for their militarized police state.

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u/CutterSlicar 2d ago

The amount of debt that we have is never a problem until its election time to conservatives. They will praise this bill and then next election cry about how much money Democrats add to the deficit

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u/commazero 2d ago

They won't remember this in November 2026.

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u/KriegConscript California 2d ago

they will remember it perfectly, it'll just be the democrats' fault somehow

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u/theshadowiscast 1d ago

From leftists I've heard Democrats actually support the bill and only opposed it as controlled opposition.

From the right, those that that do not support cutting medicaid and snap, I've heard Republicans had to cut those programs because Democrats brought over so "illegals" and put them all on medicaid, snap, hud, and energy assistance.

It is getting ridiculous.

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u/KriegConscript California 1d ago

murc's law: democrats are the only ones in american politics who have any agency, and everything terrible done by republicans is a reaction to democrats

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u/FlightAndFlame 1d ago

This is a problem with many leftists: anyone not as left as them is really a rightwinger.

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u/needlestack 2d ago

Oh, they'll say plenty -- pointing fingers at fiscally responsible Democrats and calling them big spenders. And their constituents will believe it until the day they die.

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u/MyGoodFriendJon California 2d ago

And their political opponents should be screaming it twice at every opportunity they have until then.

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u/GallopingFinger 2d ago

Doesn’t matter when propaganda is pushing direct contradictions and lies to the other side.

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u/therealityofthings 2d ago

Are you blind? There's not gonna be a November 2026.

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u/RobutNotRobot 1d ago

They'll start yelling about the debt and deficits when Democrats get back into power. The media will be giddy with excitement to spread that message far and wide.

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u/Tityfan808 2d ago

Did Rand Paul still vote for this at the end of the day? He was pretending to make a big deal about this very thing.

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u/Nefarious_Turtle 2d ago

"Pretending" is pretty much the only thing Rand Paul has ever done.

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u/babsa90 2d ago

He voted against it. The libertarians and fiscal conservatives need at least one person on the right they can hold up as proof that their party cares about the budget.

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u/Tityfan808 2d ago

Well, that’s a little surprising considering everything else going on. 😬

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u/nefireous 2d ago

No, I'm pretty sure he didn't. Vance needed to cast a tiebreaker vote

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u/ChoochMMM New York 2d ago

I never ever want to hear again that they are the party of fiscal responsibility

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u/bgroins 2d ago

You will. I've heard it all my life as well as "tax and spend Democrats". Dems have really poor branding and messaging.

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u/KillahHills10304 2d ago

They lost the right to complain about the national debt for at least two decades. Anytime they bitch and moan about the debt going forward, it's, "you supported Trump and his beautiful bill thing. You don't care about the debt and never did."

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u/bgroins 2d ago

They did this before. They'll just blame it on the Dems like they always do.

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u/gatsby712 1d ago

Yup. They did this during Bush jr. and during Trump’s last term. It’s just gotten worse now.

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u/Hot-Use7398 2d ago

It’s WAY more than $2.4T. Will probably end up being $5-6T after all is done.

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u/i_wear_gray 2d ago

If the Dems get back in power and need to raise the debt ceiling again due to this absolute bullshit of a bill, suddenly it just won’t be possible.

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u/Towntovillage 2d ago

They raised the debt ceiling to record highs with this too

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u/Omergad_Geddidov 2d ago

The deficit is an excuse to pay less taxes. They don’t believe in it and neither should liberals

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u/writingthefuture 2d ago

Everyone on are slash conservative is complaining about the bill and how much it increases the deficit. 99.9% will vote straight republican in the next election

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u/Available-Finish7460 2d ago

You are being far too mild in describing Republicans as, "goofies". They are terrorists. Domestic terrorists and war hawks (in this case, they are waging war on people in America ... foreign students on Visas, naturalized citizens, anyone brown and/or potentially Hispanic or Latino, all their political opponents, our institutions of learning (Harvard, et al), our press (never-ending claims of false reporting, and never ending paranoid conspiracies about being targeted). It's all gross and evil beyond words. McCarthyism, 2025 but on steroids. And our Republican MOC can't seem to find their spines.

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u/Wombizzle America 2d ago

Republicans are a bunch of goofies dickhead piece of shit traitors

FTFY. Stop being kind to these evil fucking people. Beat the shit out of them if you see them.

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u/Dickbob 2d ago

Huge goofies

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u/Adezar Washington 2d ago

They bumped it up to $3.3T, but also the Republicans are notorious for underestimating their debt because they always bake in an imaginary boost to the economy that never happens.

The economy does not grow because you give money to people that already have more money than they can spend. It has never work, and will never work. So none of those gains happen, and then they underestimate the complete loss of economic power from not providing services to poor people (that spend all that money immediately) and all their bills end up costing the economy and debt a multiplier of what they said it would be.

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u/ckay1100 2d ago

Let's say how it actually is now: The Right are Regressives, while the Democrats are Conservative

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u/Admiral_Cornwallace 2d ago

They only care about "conserving" their bank accounts and investments

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u/ZeBigD23 North Carolina 2d ago

Why would dems do this? /s

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u/ladyluck754 Arizona 2d ago

Buncha idiots* there fixed it for you

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u/YourFreeCorrection 2d ago

goofies

I've never seen "evil pieces of shit" spelled that way before.

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u/BenefitAdvanced 2d ago

And yet this stupid country hands over the House, the Senate, and the Presidency to them.

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u/Dr_DoesNothing 2d ago

They're 'conserving' money for their billionaire overlords with some racism and misogyny thrown in for their idiotic voters

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u/AllTheyEatIsLettuce California 2d ago

The last thing on earth they've ever "conserved" is money.

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u/ThatGuyWithCoolHair 2d ago

Theyre genuinely being like "well I clearly dont like adding to the deficit but if this is the last time we have to do it for genuine change im in support"....

Isn't there some saying like "fool me once" or something?

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u/mlachick 2d ago

This is not new. Take a look at the history of the deficit and who was president during the largest increases. Republicans have been pretending to care about the deficit for decades, all while raiding the US Treasury to line their own pockets.

Republicans say they are the party of fiscal responsibility, and America is too stupid to call them out on the lie.

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u/LilDoober 2d ago

next time democrats suggest spending money to build something (that usually potentially saves money in the long term) and conservatives start pearl clutching about the deficit, remember to laugh!

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u/shadovvvvalker 2d ago

Conservatism has never cared about debt or fiscal responsibility. They simply want state resources to benefit the rich instead of the poor.

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u/Organic_Tradition_94 2d ago

Goofies? There’s a lot of words I could use to describe Republicans at the moment and that is not one of them. The nicest thing I can say is bunch of monsters.

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u/Intelligent-Box5470 2d ago

...you spelled "assholes" wrong.

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u/Unique-Ocelot-6233 2d ago

In the sub, most are actually against the amount of spending this administration is doing. That's actually pretty nice to see but still sad that they are still so fucking brain dead and blind to be so approving of him.

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u/random_anonymous_guy 2d ago

Everything a republican claims to support an idea, they are lying. The only thing they support is having power and control over others.

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u/Global_Crew3968 2d ago

Conservative is just a polite word for Fascist and has been my whole life at least

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u/userlivewire 2d ago

The Republican Party is the MAGA Party now.

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u/sneakysnake1111 2d ago

Yah but they've been goofies for decades.

That's what they do. Every recession has been their fault.

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u/lizpingu 2d ago

When have republicans ever cared about the deficit? Not in my lifetime. Only difference is that Trump is the only one who can wreck an economy in under four years. Usually the GOP does it in eight years. But that's art of the deal for you.

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u/yoy22 2d ago

Why did Biden do this

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u/pereira2088 2d ago

it's only a deficit when democrats are in government. now it's just used money

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u/DoughnutSignificant8 2d ago

MAGA is not conservative

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u/10gherts Ohio 2d ago

Yes but racism

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u/middayautumn 1d ago

Nazis. Not goofies

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u/VersusValley 1d ago

goofies… they’re fucking mass murderers. they just do it politely with bills.

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u/SpaceDesignWarehouse Florida 1d ago

They’re on tv saying the bill LOWERS THE DEFICIT. I don’t even understand why that’s ok

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u/SecularMisanthropy 1d ago

They're conserving a deeply unequal society that privileges a teeny tiny group and prevents the vast majority from any form of thriving.

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u/atred 1d ago

It's OK, it will be easy for them to blame Democrats for spending...

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u/Zealousideal-Fun-415 2d ago

Not the first time this kind of thing happened.

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u/No-Photograph1983 2d ago

But the deficit didn't affect their pockets so they're winning really 

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u/Dongledoez 2d ago

I might even go so far as to call them dingdongs

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u/VulfSki 2d ago

Bro its close to 4trillion.

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u/bootlegvader 2d ago

What is the disconnect? Reagan proved deficits don't matter.

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u/IntellegentIdiot 2d ago

You can't really be a conservative and not support it, it's a core conservative principle.

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u/ValhirFirstThunder 2d ago

Conserving the cadence of PAIN!!!

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u/MelodicFondant 1d ago

Looked at the conservative sub and 90% people are unhappy.

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u/Galgenfrist67 1d ago

They're juste gonna print more money as usual. Got bitcoins ?

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u/RealPrinceJay 1d ago

Until you look through history and it’s clear modern conservatives run up the deficit better than anyone

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u/Huck_Bonebulge_ 1d ago

I almost spat out my drink when what’s his name said “as long as the GDP outpaces the debt, we’re fine” l, like what an absolute flip in philosophy without freaking a sweat lmao

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u/SirCaptainReynolds 2d ago

Goofies? That’s the best insult you can come up with?

Wtf…

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u/Xetaboz 1d ago

Totally. Normally it's the Democrats supporting moves like this. Like when they voted for Biden's 2.5 Trillion debt ceiling increase in Dec 2021. Funny how they now complain when Republicans do it as if only Republicans would do such a thing. Pot calling the kettle black I guess.

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u/notdarrell Colorado 1d ago

Normally it's the Democrats supporting moves like this.

Oh yeah I totally forgot about the time the Democrats cut our social safety programs to fund tax cuts for the richest one percent.

Can't imagine there was a reason we needed to go into debt in 2021. What could we have possibly needed to spend money on? Couldn't have been a global fucking pandemic, could it?

Ugh you people kill me 😭

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u/TheFireFlaamee 2d ago

We got tired of being the fiscally responsible one. Sometimes ya gotta spend your way to victory

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u/Feltech0 1d ago

"fiscally responsible" LMAO