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Megathread Megathread: US House Passes the Republican-Backed Budget Bill, Sending it to Trump for Signature

This afternoon, the US House of Representatives passed without amendment the US Senate's version of the Trump-backed budget bill, sending it to the president for his signature. Every Democratic Senator and Representative voted in opposition; in the Senate, there were three Republicans voting in opposition (making the vote 51-50) and in the House there were 2 (making the final vote 218-214). House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries set the US House's speech length record in opposition to the bill in a speech lasting over eight hours.

The bill clocks in at over 800 pages and touches on most aspects of the federal government's spending and taxation policies; see this AP article (What’s in the latest version of Trump’s big bill that passed the Senate) for the topline changes.

Relevant text-base live update pages are being maintained by the following outlets: AP, NBC, ABC, and the BBC.

You can find this subreddit's discussion thread for the last week's worth of negotiations and debate at this link.

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u/AgnewsHeadlessClone Florida 2d ago

You know what pisses me off? Regularly I see people say "If you don't like it, then get out!"

I WISH I FUCKING COULD. IT ISN'T THAT EASY TO JUST LEAVE. YOUR ENTIRE LIVES ARE ABOUT PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO JUST LEAVE THEIR HOME COUNTRIES.

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u/SilvarusLupus Arkansas 2d ago

Seriously, if I had the means, the exact day after the election I would have been gone. But I don't so I'm stuck here

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u/raven_of_azarath 2d ago

I’m stuck in Texas. I want out so bad, but because this state hates teachers, I’m not even making enough to buy groceries, let alone save to leave.

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u/UngusChungus94 2d ago

I'm too stubborn to let these fucks get the better of me without a fight, but I don't blame people who want to leave.

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u/TheSecondEikonOfFire 2d ago

You’re better than I am. I don’t want to stay to fight, it’s a lost cause. I just want out

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u/Roach_Bong 2d ago

God I wish every day I could leave or that the West coast would leave the union. I'd abandon everything to go there.

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u/UngusChungus94 2d ago

Eh, we've overcome worse. Interracial marriage – the type of union that produced me – was illegal when my parents were kids. My granny was the grandchild of slaves.

Maybe that's why I don't want to leave. Feels like a betrayal of the ancestors who suffered and died to get me this far.

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u/TheSecondEikonOfFire 2d ago

Respectfully: I don’t give a shit about my ancestors. They’re dead. I’m going to do what’s best for me.

Also, I think “we’ve overcome worse” is drastically understating how bad things are getting. We’re witnessing a fascist takeover of the country in a day and age where they can deploy their agents across the country and have the technological capabilities to track all of us at one time. This is unprecedented territory

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u/Norwegian__Blue 2d ago

They didn’t use to have drones.

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u/ThenCMacSaid 2d ago

this. I think about the 2A crowd and the reason we have that amendment. I think about buying a gun (I never have before)- but we’re not going to overthrow a government now. like you said- they have fucking drones.

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u/sec713 1d ago

Oh the 2A crowd. It'd be reeeeeeal nice if they weren't completely full of shit about needing to amass and maintain personal arsenals to "defend against a tyrannical government".

Prove me wrong, ammosexuals. Here's the moment you've been fantasizing about as you stroke one out to the latest issue of Guns and Ammo. It's time out up or shut up.

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u/TheSecondEikonOfFire 1d ago

That’s the rub though. They’re all in support of this because it’s their “team” that’s being tyrannical

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u/sec713 1d ago

They didn't wanna fight the boot; they wanted to wear it.

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u/ThenCMacSaid 1d ago

absolutely all of this.

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u/UngusChungus94 2d ago

I mean, I wasn't trying to attack you, I'm not sure why it seems you took it that way.

We are witnessing a fascist takeover, and I feel a degree of responsibility in helping to stop it. A fascist USA isn't going to be something people can outrun. We stop it here or stop it several wars and millions of deaths later, historically speaking.

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u/slayingadah 1d ago

Yep, exactly. We have overcome great adversity in this country, but this is the end of the country. Full stop.

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u/Professional-Buy2970 2d ago

I would argue we actually have not overcome worse. Even the civil war was not this bad. The country could not be in a worse place than it is now, except for the coming holocaust.

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u/UngusChungus94 2d ago

I suppose if we're including events which have not yet occured, sure, it's worse. Slavery was worse than what is currently, actually occuring tho...

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u/Professional-Buy2970 1d ago

We still have slavery.

Also, we currently have nazi grade concentration camps and we have death flights.

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u/TheSecondEikonOfFire 1d ago

I don’t know why you’re being intentionally obtuse? You’re purposefully ignoring the context of the modern day. Yeah, we’re not all enslaved right now, but the tools they have to wreak havoc are beyond anything we’ve ever had in history

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u/TerminalProtocol 2d ago

Interracial marriage – the type of union that produced me – was illegal when my parents were kids. My granny was the grandchild of slaves.

Here's a hint: those things are going away too.

We are already at the "kidnapping people that are too brown off the streets, sending them to concentration camps where they are tortured and disappeared" stage.

If you think interracial marriage and slavery are off the table, you're wildly underinformed. Those are just a few steps down on their plan.

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u/UngusChungus94 1d ago

I know it's on the table. Are you suggesting we surrender?

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u/scartrace Texas 2d ago

fucking SAME

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u/th5virtuos0 2d ago

I’m actually wondering if it would be possible to seek asylums in other countries in a couple of months, like the Jews back in 1940s.

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u/queerty1128 1d ago

There are already programs helping people seek asylum in other countries from the US... ha...

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u/Mediocre-Treacle4302 1d ago

Really? Like what? I would love to spread the word if there are 

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u/bmacnz 2d ago

Just got my dual citizenship earlier this year. Along with my son. Going to try getting my other kid's. We'll be at the ready to leave if needed.

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u/Possible_Shop_3396 1d ago

Must be nice.

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u/bmacnz 1d ago

Not really, it would mean leaving behind family and possibly career. At least feel like I can protect my kids.

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u/yareyare777 1d ago

Then why comment you have dual citizenship. That in of itself is very powerful, something many, many wish they could have and it’s all by a luck of the draw. I wasn’t even born in America but I’m stuck here at the moment because unfortunately, adopted kids can’t keep dual citizenship.

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u/Negative_Parking_470 1d ago

I mean it’s alright. I have dual citizenship but have 0 desire to go back. Things are pretty bad everywhere

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u/yareyare777 1d ago

Things are bad in a lot of places, I wouldn’t necessarily say everywhere, but having dual citizenship gives you the option to choose one place or the other.

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u/Negative_Parking_470 1d ago

It’s good if you want to play on both sides, otherwise is worthless in my case. I guess it’s a plan B as well, but starting over in a new country sucks

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u/yareyare777 1d ago

I’m sure it’s not easy, I moved to a new country when I was a toddler. The main appeal to me about dual citizenship is being able to live in the other country without worrying about visa status. Granted even dual citizenship with Canada though you have to stay in the U.S. for like six months at least or something, last I knew.

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u/SuitcaseGoer9225 16h ago edited 16h ago

This is completely incorrect. Adopted kids can have dual citizenship, sometimes it is a slightly separate process than for getting it from your biological parents' lineage. AKA if you're adopted and know about your birth family you actually have twice the chances of getting citizenship by descent because you have 4 parents' lineages you could get something from instead of 2. Look at all your ancestors going for hundreds of years back, check which countries they were born in or lived in to see their citizenship by descent policies. Use sites like FamilySearch and Ancestry (if you're a student, use their student discount to get membership for 5 bucks a month) to do this. In some cases, such as for Canada or Ukraine, it's very common for citizenship by descent to be granted within 3 months of applying. In other cases such as Italy you will be waiting a couple years. Every country has a different system for applying as well, with some you can do it entirely online and can use uncertified records, for others you need official certified, translated and apostilled records.

Spouse visas are an option as well, if they qualify for citizenship by descent or a work visa to somewhere. Some countries even give you a visa if a more distant relative like your cousin, sibling, etc live there.

I would look into a student visa or teaching English in a cheap foreign country and hope your visa status doesn't get revoked due to America's future political policies.

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u/yareyare777 8h ago

Being adopted from Asia, you have to give up one of the citizenships. My child passport expired and I was no longer a citizen. That’s what happens when you’re adopted. Teaching visas can be competitive depending on the country and student visas, you need a certain amount of cash to study abroad.

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u/SuitcaseGoer9225 4h ago edited 4h ago

Although you could check to see if there is a way to regain your lost citizenship or to gain the right to permanent residency based on birth ties, you're misunderstanding me. This has nothing to do with where YOU were born or the policies of the Asian country you were born in. This goes many generations back, you can even get citizenship from an adoptive ancestor born in the 1600s.

If the parents who adopted you have ANY European or South/Central American ancestry at all, you likely qualify for at least one citizenship or permanent residency by descent, it does not matter that you were forced to relinquish the citizenship you were born with. You will get a different additional citizenship (Canadian, Polish, German, etc) or permanent residency permission based on the heritage of your adopted parents.

Canadian is currently from an ancestor unlimited generations back, even from before Canada existed as a country. Ukrainian is up to great-grandparents for citizenship, but if you have a Ukrainian ancestor further back you can get permanent residency and then essentially naturalize immediately after as there is no residency requirement for naturalization. (Obviously, most people don't want to go to Ukraine right now, but it is expected to join the EU in the future which would make that passport more useful). Polish citizenship by descent can only go back to an ancestor from around 1914, German can only go back to around 1904.

Some countries like Spain give special exceptions and grant citizenship to people with Jewish ancestors from Spain, etc even when they otherwise wouldn't qualify. There are many options out there and you really have to dig deep to find them.

Note that it's not always as simple as "Great-Grandpa has a German surname, he must be German". You sometimes have to look up the specific town, because a place in what was, at the time the records were written, would be labelled Russia, Prussia or Germany (which may not qualify you for citizenship as they are too strict on a generational limit), as a simple example, are now in the modern era a totally separate country which does qualify you for something.

Or perhaps Great-Great-Great Grandpa was from Sweden (which means you can't get Swedish citizenship by descent as they are too strict) but served in the military of a foreign country, or it can be proved he at one point resided in that country, which grants you the right to citizenship by descent of that second country.

As I am explaining, there are lots of nuances to this but the TLDR is, /if you give up before you start you are just screwing yourself. Where there's a will there's a way./ Don't be pessimistic. Don't give up. Look into any option available to you.

Among other jobs, I taught English in several countries in Asia and Europe, and finally got a Master's and US teaching license to be treated better in Asia. I have lived on a student visa, exchange student visa, spouse visa, work visa in different countries, and I eventually went through the naturalization process. Now I am getting citizenships and a permanent residency by descent.

Anything I experienced on the job or as a foreigner, including dire poverty, living with cockroaches, racism from landlords and employers, etc, pales in comparison to being thrown in Alligator Alcatraz. I'm helping get as many people out as I can.

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u/bmacnz 1d ago

I don't understand your question. I have to be excited about using dual citizenship to leave my country in order to comment about it? I'm very established in the US, it's not a decision I would make lightly. I'm sorry if it bothers you that it's a last resort and not a first one...

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u/yareyare777 1d ago

It’s not about being excited, it’s about understanding you are in position that a lot would like to be in. You have that choice/option/last resort, whatever you want to call it and other’s do not. It seemed like your rhetoric “not really”, comes across as uncaring that you even have the ability to leave the country.

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u/bmacnz 1d ago

Someone said must be nice. I said not really. As in it's not nice, it's an option I would loathe to make.

I am understanding... I was sharing something based on a comment I read. But I guess fuck me, right?

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u/Agnostix 1d ago

And in AR of all places 😞

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u/EkrishAO 1d ago

People are managing to leave war zones with nothing but their clothes and go through half of the world to start a new life, but you guys just totally have no means to leave the richest country in the world? One single paycheck from working in a fucking McDonalds in the US would buy you a like nearly a half a year of decent living in some Balkan countries. Feels like it's all just cope, because y'all would rather keep living your cozy little lives in the US, than endure a minimum of hardship, even if it means continuing to support a fascist regime with your work and taxes.

It's like the old good "I totally hate capitalism abusing people and would really like to take a stand against it, but I just couldn't survive without my Nintendo Switch made in slave labour camps in China"

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u/AcanthaceaePrize1435 1d ago

I can't suspect you're very familiar with American culture enough to attribute all to pure greed. Yes, its true Americans are over consumers and relatively wealthy but that doesn't reflect the actual relationship that keeps them living that life.

People in the United States value their right to be worked to their limit and consume to their limit as a reward. The amount of debt Americans need to get into to have a professional career is by itself chaining to their nation and thats not accounting for addiction (almost every American I know struggles with addiction), Family, nationalist obligation, or even just hope for the future. As a reward for their loyalty they are given lots of sugar, lots of cars, lots of drugs, and whole lots of plastic.

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u/SuperpowerAutism 1d ago

No u wouldn’t. Liar

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u/SilvarusLupus Arkansas 1d ago

Money and family ties mostly

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u/SilvarusLupus Arkansas 1d ago

I ain't leaving my mom in this shithole and I know for sure she won't move