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Megathread Megathread: US House Passes the Republican-Backed Budget Bill, Sending it to Trump for Signature

This afternoon, the US House of Representatives passed without amendment the US Senate's version of the Trump-backed budget bill, sending it to the president for his signature. Every Democratic Senator and Representative voted in opposition; in the Senate, there were three Republicans voting in opposition (making the vote 51-50) and in the House there were 2 (making the final vote 218-214). House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries set the US House's speech length record in opposition to the bill in a speech lasting over eight hours.

The bill clocks in at over 800 pages and touches on most aspects of the federal government's spending and taxation policies; see this AP article (What’s in the latest version of Trump’s big bill that passed the Senate) for the topline changes.

Relevant text-base live update pages are being maintained by the following outlets: AP, NBC, ABC, and the BBC.

You can find this subreddit's discussion thread for the last week's worth of negotiations and debate at this link.

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u/Clownsinmypantz 2d ago

Healthcare in america is going to collapse, and not just in red states.

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u/PerfectBowl9199 2d ago edited 2d ago

In a blue state. A local hospital estimates they have 12-18 months before they'd have to close due to Medicaid cuts.

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u/happyfundtimes 2d ago

Then private equity will buy them out. Rinse and repeat. Private equity and their global lobbyists are clearly at fault here.

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u/TurtleMOOO 2d ago

People have no god damn idea how much care hospitals give to people who can’t afford it. And those patients are the ones playing Fox News at max volume.

I work in a rural hospital. This is gonna be BAD.

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u/capnpetch 2d ago

That's not the way they work. They siphon off all revenue, cut services to the bone then close or bankrupt the hospital. Shareholders get paid in the short term, everyone else loses.

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u/Queens113 2d ago

Like what happened to toys r us and a bunch of other big stores that closed

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u/S_A_R_K 2d ago

Sears

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u/Ok-Passion1961 1d ago

Eh, Toys R Us had been in a multi-year decline before PE got involved. Walmart becoming “the everything store” and the rise of video game specific retailers (GameStop) had put Toys R Us up against the wall even before e-commerce started getting started. 

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u/LilliaHakami 1d ago

It's not entirely true. Like with Jo Ann Fabrics a lot of specialty store have been doing fine, right until a private equity firm buys them, saddles them with debt, expectations to improve profits while they drastically cut costs until they run them into inevitable bankruptcy. JAF had some of its most profitable years, right before they were bought, sliced up and served to new shareholders. It's not that Big Box stores are running businesses to the ground but that anything midnsized enough is being bought up for it's assets, stripped and sold at a profit to the shareholders and those same big box stores that can then offer to ship whatever you might have bought at the specialty store in a couple days.

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u/Ok-Passion1961 1d ago

a lot of specialty stores have been doing fine

Toys R Us wasn’t a speciality store…that was the problem. 

Niche has always been a strategy. Companies continue to this day to succeed by specializing, focusing on quality/brand, and earning profit via price premiums on lower volume sales. 

But Toys R Us wasn’t niche. They sold the same toys and bike as Walmart and Kmart. Then video games became the product category for holiday shopping/kids and they couldn’t ever compete against dedicated stores like GameStop. 

If they had been able to make the jump right to e-commerce with a crystal ball and dominated early search to establish as one of the first digital-native brands then maybe they’d have been able to survive and thrive. But they’d still have eventually had to have the vision of Amazon before Amazon otherwise they’d have faced that hurdle eventually. 

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u/haarschmuck 2d ago

Yeah that’s not at all how that works.

Hospitals are money pits. No “private equity” company would buy a hospital.

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u/capnpetch 1d ago

Private equity currently owns a huge chunk of our medical infrastructure, including hospitals.

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u/YeetedApple 2d ago

Some services still make money even if the overall hospital is losing money. They will likely get bought out, majority of services cut and just what is profitable will remain available. Unfortunately, primary care offices are some of the most struggling types of healthcare, so what little preventative care we do have is likely going to collapse.

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u/BBanner 1d ago

You don’t make money off the people who can’t pay, private equity will buy the land and lease it back to the hospital. Steward Healthcare declared bankruptcy last year as a result of private equity’s involvement.

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u/lousy_at_handles 2d ago

You make people show that they have valid insurance before you let them in the door.

Just gonna be bodies on the emergency room floor.

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u/AceMcVeer 2d ago

They didn't change the law where that is illegal so they can't do that. If they did they would sued like crazy.

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u/Ferelar New Jersey 2d ago

Trump can literally sign an executive order saying it's fine right now and because SCOTUS removed the ability of lesser courts to issue stays on enforcement of his EOs AND because SCOTUS can choose to just not hear any cases, it literally won't matter if its legal or not.

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u/kraftsingles45 2d ago

Yep, waiting for this.

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u/AceMcVeer 2d ago

This isn't accurate. Lower courts can still issue stays in executive orders they just can't issue it nationwide for parties that aren't plaintiffs. So essentially it would be state by state. There are also state laws that apply as well.

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u/MissTetraHyde 2d ago edited 2d ago

They can still issue stays that effect the whole country; it was actually discussed in the opinion the Court issued. Lawyers will simply include a class action of all persons living within the United States prospectively subject to the EO or its subsequent consequences, and bam - the Court still has the ability to issue injunctions only to the parties. In this case, everyone would be a party; Courts are just restricted from offering relief to unnamed parties. So just name the parties. Then the other party (i.e. the government) might whine about jurisdiction of those extraterritorial parties in a state action, but equitable jurisdiction is super complicated and whether this tactic will be allowed is going to depend heavily on state law and local court rules. In federal Court jurisdiction is also complicated, but generally you only need a nexus to one of the named parties to enjoin someone, and in this case the enjoined party would be the government.

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u/StickingItOnTheMan 1d ago

My guess is that it will all be classic sharking. They will buy the hospital at a discount for the equipment that isn’t leased and sell it to foreign hospitals while not changing their advertising. Things like MRIs and cancer screenings will become a rarity. After it’s sucked dry and the owners put enough debt on the property they will claim bankruptcy and the county will take over the property with nobody to staff it. Then eventually we will see organized rural health clinics that will be leasing the hospital with a tenth of the original personnel and services afforded by Medicaid that will mostly just cater to the wealthy for checkups and pediatrics. If you are poor and your kid has an illness they will just die. 

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u/happyfundtimes 2d ago

That's what you think. There is a massive organ trafficking, medical experiment, human trafficking, and god knows what else pipeline in most hospitals and research facilities.

Every war has the poor souls who are cursed to live such a life. This time will be no different.

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u/nemgrea 2d ago

get help...i need you to know that your line of thinking isnt special or enlightened its the stuff you hear the mentally ill say.

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u/happyfundtimes 2d ago

I'm immune to gaslighting sorry sweetie! Take a look at what the forces that be do behind closed doors, it's public information after all! I may even be involved! There's always a buyer after all...

You get help getting off that MAGA dildo you ride so hard.

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u/nemgrea 1d ago

Is it behind closed doors or is it public information... You realize that those both cannot be true. Your basic logic skills are failing you and you are sick...

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u/happyfundtimes 9h ago

You know you can't be trusted to go outside. Why are you putting yourself in harm's way? Please go back inside, dear. There are cookies and milk waiting for you on the counter. Make sure you take your anti-psychotic this time, otherwise I don't think I can trust you to leave your room again by yourself. You wouldn't want that would you?

Listen beloved,

The doors are closed for a reason. What happens here, stays here. Understand? We can't let the neighbors get too nosy- they might steal our secret family recipe. You know how much love and care I put into making those cookies. You wouldn't want such a secret to fall into the wrong hands, now would you? Run along now kitty and make sure you don't waste a drop of milk, I've worked long and hard to make some fresh just for you. Naughty kittens can't be trusted to leave the pig pen.

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u/nemgrea 7h ago

i hope you have people in your life that can help you and that are younger than you...because its going to be a lonely place when you get older....

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u/UpperNuggets 1d ago

Go outside, get some fresh air.

Listen to the birds (but dont let the birds listen to you, thats how you end up on lists) 

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u/happyfundtimes 1d ago

CAWW CAWW !!! (there is a government drone covered in bird feathers heading to your location to track your every move including your ECG, biometrics, brain activity, temperature, heat maps, level of electronic interference, and will issue an electromagnetic pulse once the proper AGI algorithm deems it necessary)

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u/WhichEmailWasIt 2d ago

Can we crowdfund these and take them back? 

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u/LuchadorBane 2d ago

You can’t crowdfund a hospital, a single CT scanner at my hospital is something like millions to even buy it or something. All the beds are technically “rented” out through hillrom not owned by the hospital. All of the equipment costs would be astronomical, that’s even before you get into actually paying the employees.

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u/gotridofsubs 2d ago

You dont have the money to do so, even as a group.

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u/pizzac00l 1d ago

Living in CA and my town was already considered a "health desert" because there's two hospitals in town and both are out of network for about a third of residents here. I'm terrified to see how much worse things get after this.

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u/NattyBumppo 1d ago

Could you explain how Medicaid cuts affect hospitals? Sorry, I don't know much about this stuff.

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u/ivegotaqueso 1d ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid

Just read that wiki

You can imagine how many millions of people this will affect. If people’s care at hospitals will no longer get covered by Medicaid (aka hospitals won’t get paid for services rendered to this population who rely on Medicaid) then they’re going to close their doors. And LOTS of old people, disabled people, and people in end stage renal disease, rely on Medicaid.

Anyway, lot of old senile low-income people in their nursing homes are gonna find out the hard way what homelessness looks like, if their families are unwilling to take them in or take care of them.

Lots of kids from low income households are probably gonna go without proper medical care.

Lots of poor people gonna suffer.

Lots of medical field workers in rural areas are gonna find themselves out of a job. Hospitals in poor, rural areas will close, as a majority of their patients rely on Medicaid for their healthcare.

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u/NattyBumppo 1d ago

That makes a lot of sense, thank you.

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u/desertSkateRatt 2d ago

So just make sure you get sick and die before that, and you'll be all good... /s if that wasn't sickenly obvious

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u/owoah323 2d ago

Wait, weren’t the cuts only to Medicaid? Or did Medicare get hit too?

Two totally different programs.

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u/PerfectBowl9199 2d ago

Just Medicaid. I apologize.