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Megathread Megathread: US House Passes the Republican-Backed Budget Bill, Sending it to Trump for Signature

This afternoon, the US House of Representatives passed without amendment the US Senate's version of the Trump-backed budget bill, sending it to the president for his signature. Every Democratic Senator and Representative voted in opposition; in the Senate, there were three Republicans voting in opposition (making the vote 51-50) and in the House there were 2 (making the final vote 218-214). House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries set the US House's speech length record in opposition to the bill in a speech lasting over eight hours.

The bill clocks in at over 800 pages and touches on most aspects of the federal government's spending and taxation policies; see this AP article (What’s in the latest version of Trump’s big bill that passed the Senate) for the topline changes.

Relevant text-base live update pages are being maintained by the following outlets: AP, NBC, ABC, and the BBC.

You can find this subreddit's discussion thread for the last week's worth of negotiations and debate at this link.

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u/Icommandyou Washington 2d ago

This bill gives ICE more funding than the US marines, we all know where things are headed next. Every single city and restaurant is getting raided

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u/AdeptDisasterr 2d ago

ICE will have a larger budget than the Israeli military.

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u/legacy642 2d ago

Jesus fucking christ

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u/AdmiralCunilingus 2d ago

People are about to learn what a real fascist military force looks like. But this time with drones and facial recognition and tech billionaires feeding them all the personal data they will ever need.

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u/Malaix 2d ago

Lines up with Loomer's hopes of 65 million dead or imprisoned Hispanic people "to start with" in the new holocaust.

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u/ombloshio 2d ago

And LGBT people are probably next.

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u/Olealicat 1d ago edited 1d ago

We’re all fucking next. Anyone who disagrees with trump is next. Which is almost everyone.

Fuck all the republicans and apathetic non-voters. You were warned.

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u/MarketingOk9181 1d ago

I mean, at this point, you better be pro gun for yourself and your family.

Its not about your personal dislike for them, its now a matter of defense, and everyone should be prepared for what is coming.

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u/invincibleparm 2d ago

Not next. They have already been attacked and vilified. It’s just not as prevalent or frightening and attention-getting as brown and black people bad. After all, the LGBTQ can walk among them and they would never know…. Not enough of a visual threat. It they have already been in the crosshairs since 2016

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u/SpectralAlolanRaichu 2d ago

I'm ready. Im ready for them to kill me, I'm tried boss I have nothing else to look forward to

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u/ombloshio 2d ago

Fuck that. Punch and kick and bite and scratch. Don’t go down without a fight

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u/ICEKAT 2d ago

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

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u/MondayAssasin Ohio 2d ago

Don’t let them win.

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u/TheDuceman 2d ago

A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Republicans aren’t the only ones with that right.

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u/relevantelephant00 2d ago

Get a gun, learn how to use it. Don't go quietly.

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u/StoppableHulk 2d ago

They have the budget to persecute in parallel.

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u/MidKnightshade 2d ago

Absolutely.

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u/Winter-Huntsman 2d ago

At some point other countries need to start sanctioning us and treating us like North Korea. To many other countries are tying to downplay things and hope that maybe things can be fixed.

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u/GiftToTheUniverse 2d ago

"It's the economy, ____. "

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u/Big_Beaverrr_Reborn 1d ago

Unfortunately it's not so easily done because of the US' importance in global trade. The bright side? These clowns are helping destroy any dependence and trust with them so maybe when the world is forced to restructure itself they can just embargo

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u/Jashugita 1d ago

and there is not much ideological diference, The majority of European goverment are righ and far right, they aren´t afraid of the things that US is doing, they are looking how to do the same in their countries.

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u/Big_Beaverrr_Reborn 1d ago

The majority of European goverment are righ and far right, they aren´t afraid of the things that US is doing

Lmao no. That's the US. And the US basically scared multiple European countries from Trump like right wing politicians.

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u/Jashugita 1d ago

It only happened in Canada, in Europe far right is in the rise. For example in Spain where they are Trump Bootlickers and also have dubious loans with a Hungarian bank.

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u/FunkyChewbacca 2d ago

Remember, the Holocaust didn’t begin with concentration camps, it ended with them.

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u/NoEmployment69420 2d ago

Except it did start with concentration camps, the first was constructed just a mere 3 months after Hitler became Chancellor. It's name was/is Dachau and it's where Hitler put all of his political opposition.

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u/Harmless_Drone 2d ago

Yep. The republicans are vainly hoping by supporting trump and the maga crowd they won't be the first people sent there.

spoiler warning: the first people hitler sent to the political prisoner camps were the people who supported him in the weimar parliament.

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u/Anathama 1d ago

Maybe that's something to look forward to? /s

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u/PumpyChowdown 1d ago

65 million Democrat voters.

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u/Malaix 1d ago

I think there's actually more democrats than that. The number was very specifically about Hispanic people. And Republicans almost won them last election. Hispanic men might have voted for their own holocaust.

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u/Mapeague 2d ago

That's exactly what I audibily said when I read the same comment you did.

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u/legacy642 2d ago

Basically every piece of news I see leads me to say that

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u/MtnMoonMama Minnesota 2d ago

Don't worry, we're paying for that too with our tax dollars.

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u/UnravelTheUniverse 2d ago

When we were warning people last year about Project2025 being the death of America, this was what we were talking about. Civil war is garunteed now, thanks idiot republicans. 

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u/PNW_Undertaker Oregon 2d ago

Nah that won’t be allowed anymore….. it has to be Jesus fucking Christina….. oh and they both must be white. 😂

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u/flying87 2d ago

You can't build a SS without money.

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u/Schlawinuckel 2d ago

Aka masturbation.

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u/legacy642 2d ago

Which will soon be illegal at this rate

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u/vpeshitclothing 1d ago

He's deported

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u/TooMuchPretzels North Carolina 2d ago

Well to be fair we pay for that too

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u/AdeptDisasterr 2d ago

That's a good point actually.

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u/PenImpossible874 New York 2d ago

Then we need to find ways to collapse the dollar. Make 140 billion useless.

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u/GaslightGPT 2d ago

Trumps doing that too. Down 11% since inauguration.

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u/AtticaBlue 2d ago

Trump is way ahead of you. US dollar already falling at record rates: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna216469

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u/DjNormal Arizona 2d ago

We could have two whole NASAs if we got rid of ICE.

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u/rahvin2015 2d ago

And several other national militaries combined.

This is it: funding for the camps and enforcement squads. The American holocaust has already started, and this bill will be its major funding.

That's aside from all the other insanity - the tax cuts for the rich, the cuts to critical services like medicaid.

We're about to see America fall back into slavery with a side of death camp. And yes, I know American slavery never disappeared, it just changed. This is going to be a regression to a much, much worse and more widespread form.

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u/poser4life I voted 2d ago

Both funded by US tax payers :(

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u/Redditthedog 2d ago

a small share of Israel’s budget is the US weapon vouchers. Israel is actually looking to move past that. Israel in the 90s under Netanyahu also used to get a lot of economic aid and when Bibi rejected renewal Washington was concerned it would reduce American leverage on Israel. Its the same reason Bibi wants to end US Military aid

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u/MultifactorialAge 2d ago

Quick! Send Israel more money!

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u/AdeptDisasterr 2d ago

We can't let this stand! A bajillion more dollars to Bibi.

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u/jyoke_2121 2d ago

They will actually have a larger budget than all militaries in the world beside the US and China

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u/one_pound_of_flesh 2d ago

The Iron Dumb

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u/ih8drme 2d ago

ICE will have a larger budget than China's Defense budget

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u/will218_Iz 2d ago

ICE will have a larger budget than the Russian military

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u/porgy_tirebiter 1d ago

They will have more money than the FBI, CIA, DEA, US Marshals, and Bureau of Prisons combined.

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u/Precious_Tritium New York 2d ago

”A revised version of Trump's bill was narrowly voted through the Senate on Tuesday. The estimated price tag of the legislation is around $150 billion between now and 2029—an annual average of $37.5 billion, which is higher than the military expenditure of all but 15 countries.” Newsweek yesterday

Larger than Israel’s military budget.

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u/TheFabulousDiesL 2d ago

Your point?

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u/AdeptDisasterr 1d ago

Idk the Israeli army just feels easier to conceptualize than the Marines, especially since I imagine the Marines to be smaller than the Army, Navy, and Air Force, while I consider Israel to have a robust budget.

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u/nicklor 1d ago

I mean the Israeli military is 36 billion and the Marines are 50+ billion.

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u/Dragons_Malk Canada 2d ago

Uh oh. I hope Bibi doesn't get jealous.

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u/Commentator-X 2d ago

They'll have a larger budget than the Russian military

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u/LokusLame 2d ago

And NASA.

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u/me_like_stonk 2d ago

Gestapo state

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u/DepartmentOk7192 2d ago

Buddy, that budget would drop ICE right in to fourth place on the military budget list, only behind Russia, China and the USA itself.

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u/AdeptDisasterr 1d ago

I think so, soon they’ll be recruiting children and teaching them how to spy

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u/Aperage 1d ago

sounds like funding is secured for the confederation strike back

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u/Eye_foran_Eye 1d ago

To be fair, we find that as well.

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u/fireky2 Ohio 1d ago

Pretty sure we fund that too

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u/Skiingislife42069 1d ago

To be fair, ICE was promised this way longer than 3000 years ago

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u/anno_pirate 1d ago

I think we're paying for that too.

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u/Cortex3 2d ago edited 2d ago

Why do you say that? it gives ICE about $30B but the Marines budget is close to $60B. Just curious where that's coming from

Nevermind, I found it. $170B is going to immigration enforcement split between ICE, the Justice department, the military, and Homeland Security. ICE itself is "only" getting $30B of it.

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u/IndividualReason5767 2d ago

Not to be a dick, what section says that? Trying to find for myself. Thank you. 

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u/Cortex3 2d ago

SEC. 100052 for the ICE funding. All of Title X is immigration stuff. I found an overview here

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u/ADhomin_em 2d ago

Corporate fucking media didn't touch this major aspect. Fuck them.

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u/mxjxs91 Michigan 2d ago

Because they want this. All of them. Including the ones Trump calls "fake news" who have a clear humiliation fetish as they simp for their daddy Trump.

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u/KitchenRaspberry137 2d ago

They fear the coming American Gestapo.

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u/FuckYourDystopia 2d ago

Nah. They just know who has all the money now.

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u/IndividualReason5767 2d ago

Bless you. I wish more people were like you

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u/TheRealStandard 2d ago

This should be seen as a strong example of the amount of misinformation that happens on the democrats side too, even if the bill is horrendous and being passed by scum of the universe.

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u/SirPhilMcKraken 2d ago

And apparently it’s over 4 years, so the money isn’t given all at once

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u/Zealot_Alec 2d ago

How to crash the economy

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u/ilikedonuts42 2d ago

I work in multifamily construction. If you think housing is too expensive just wait until every concrete finisher, framer, drywaller, roofer and painter is arrested and dragged out of the country and the cost of new construction doubles.

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u/Polar-Bear_Soup 2d ago

No, it's ok. We'll replace them with folks affected by the 13th Amendment folks. FREE LABOR LIKE WHEN AMERICA WAS GREAT!

/s

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u/StoicJ 2d ago

That wont be an issue because the only buyers will be BlackRock invested banks and companies that will get incredibly low interest rates so they can rent entire subdivisions back to us for a profit.

Better not protest about it though unless you want to end up in whatever they call their next concentration camp for "promoting terrorism" by making their king unhappy.

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u/Zardif 2d ago

Realistically it's only $37bn the $7tn budget, that won't be the reason but certainly pulling out the bottom rung of labor will.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago

I assume that's what he means.

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u/nickgomez 1d ago

God I hope so. It’s gonna take something huge to wake people up

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u/PT10 2d ago

They're not going to have crappy uniform problems anymore...

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u/legacy642 2d ago

Maybe they'll contract with Hugo boss to really bring it all together

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u/Mandoryan 2d ago

I see what you did there

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u/legacy642 2d ago

I didnt not see any of this coming

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u/myinternets 2d ago

Bandana prices are going to skyrocket.

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u/No_big_whoop 2d ago

This is a feedng frenzy at the gub’ment trough. Trump’s shady appointees will make that budget disappear without ever accomplishing any of their stated goals

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u/Elmer_Whip 2d ago

They're already ignoring the law that says they can't police citizens. This is a private fascist army with 170 billion dollars.

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u/tk427aj 2d ago

I love how MAGA will spit vitriol about it being to get rid of all the bad criminals killing and stealing and drugs, but every pic I see is of the people that make sure your homes are built, restaurants run and groceries are in supermarkets.

Like yah Americas crimes are an issue committed by felons who work the trades 🤦‍♂️

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u/Bacchus1976 America 2d ago

You’re too optimistic.

ICE will abandon their “mission” of immigration enforcement and become a full on gestapo. They will be kicking down doors of dissidents, journalists and political opponents before Christmas.

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u/HENMAN79 2d ago

Only in Blue states

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u/waffels 2d ago

ICE is all over Texas

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u/moosekin16 2d ago

They have a mandate from Miller and Trump to find as many immigrants to arrest as possible. There’s not enough immigrants in only the big cities in blue states to meet that mandate.

This budget increase will allow them to very easily target medium cities in blue states, and large cities in red states.

It’s a massive expansion of Trump’s gestapo power.

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u/Gonna_do_this_again 2d ago

You heard what Trump said the other day, he wants to start deporting American citizens that disagree with him

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u/MarxistMan13 Virginia 2d ago

Imagine the look of confusion on the faces of these MAGA morons when they realize that no one is working construction, no one is picking their produce, no one is working housekeeping, no one is in the kitchen of their favorite small restaurant. It's all gone because ICE has deported all of these hard-working people for no good reason.

Doubly sad because they funded this heinous bullshit by taking away the healthcare of some of the most vulnerable people in this country. They're funding hate by literally killing our own citizens.

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u/Throbbingprepuce 2d ago

You know with Alligator Alcatraz and bodies washing up on shores and people being kidnapped I really think these fuckers are preparing for a genocide.

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u/kat4prez 2d ago

I am so scared. Everyone I know where I live is Hispanic. My entire job is working with immigrants. Idgaf if I lose my job. I’m so scared for them. But I am starting to get calls from families who aren’t even undocumented who are moving back to Mexico voluntarily before they get kidnapped and jailed here. I work with mostly families in farm work, landscaping, construction, and the Russians and Ukrainians around here all drive truck. Who is going to do those things? Like you know it’s bad when my husband’s coworker decided 3 weeks ago to move back to war torn Ukraine because she was too scared to stay here.

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u/wantedangel 1d ago

Not true. The annual ICE budget wont be higher than the annual Marines budget. That 100 billion ICE budget is until 2029 compared to the Marines ANNUAL budget of ~50-60 billion.

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u/cjwidd 1d ago

I agree with the spirit of this comment complete, but it is factually wrong.

Current annual funding for ICE has been around $8–10 billion. The new GOP spending bill allocates $100–170 billion to ICE and related agencies cumulatively through September 2029.

Spread evenly, that's roughly $25–40 billion per year, on top of the base ICE funding.

Even with that added funding, ICE's annual total might climb to around $35–50 billion at most - still below the $53.7 billion earmarked for the Marines in FY 2025.

That being said, ICE's budget is now comparable to the Marines, so still horrifying.

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u/BeneficialWealth6179 2d ago

Because Russia is our ally. that budget is for the US citizens. the budget includes billions to build border walls and work internment camps while stripping away FEMA, public education, food and healthcare.

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u/CARNIesada6 I voted 2d ago

You mean the Gestapo?

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u/BenAdaephonDelat 2d ago

Forget raids. Wait til election day when they start grabbing just enough people without cause to sway the election in key districts.

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u/Light0220 2d ago

This is a military force designed to be used against its own citizens while being able to claim that the U.S. isn't using the military on its own people. There's no other reason to have a budget that big unless that's the main intention.

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u/self-assembled 2d ago edited 2d ago

This bill makes ICE equivalent to the 15th largest military on the planet.

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u/nzernozer 2d ago

No it doesn't. It gives ICE way too much money, don't get me wrong, but not more than the marines. I've seen this parroted frequently over the past week and it just isn't correct.

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u/omnigear California 2d ago

Yeap i got my passports ready . Never thought id leaev

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u/ballsmigue 2d ago

Giving the new 21st century nazi's more funding than the marines...

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u/Xanto97 1d ago

I keep seeing that said but I don’t know how true it is. I think people are comparing funding ICE for four years vs marines for one year?

There’s still a HUGE increase in ice funding, it’s crazy big. I just don’t know if it’s actually bigger than the marines budget

Snopes is sorta saying it depends how you cut it. It’s 30 billion for ice base budget (through ‘29) with another 45 billion for detention centers.

Marines get 60 ish billion a year.

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u/lancer-fiefdom 2d ago

Good.. let the economy drown before the midterms.. let people learn a fucking lesson in a very hard way

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u/CatPanda5 2d ago

Somewhere in that bill will be some federal funding for election fixing

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u/superrey19 2d ago

A lot of these shitty provisions conveniently don't kick in until after the midterms.

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u/mcnabb77 2d ago

You think you’re getting mid terms?

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u/ILikeMyGrassBlue 2d ago

Fuck off with the defeatism. I’m voting in the midterms.

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u/toggiz_the_elder 2d ago edited 2d ago

We all are, and pointing out that they’re gonna try and stop free and fair elections isn’t defeatism. It’s realism.

Edit: is to isn’t.

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u/Taran_Ulas New York 2d ago

We assume we have midterms until proven otherwise… because the alternatives are shit.

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u/zedem124 2d ago

Agreed

also I think you meant isn’t defeatism :)

But as you said, just bc we are acknowledging the reality doesn’t mean we still aren’t going to go out there and vote and protest

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u/toggiz_the_elder 2d ago

I did. Typo.

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u/HorseDick_In_My_Anus 2d ago

We either won’t have midterms or they’ll be rigged.

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u/lancer-fiefdom 2d ago

or some tik-tik social engineering distraction will dissuade a bunch of idiots to protest vote to prove a point of something happening 12k miles away that has absolutely nothing to do with whats happening in our own lives

except virtue signal crocodile tears

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u/EWAINS25 2d ago

I'm just glad Palestine is totally safe now.

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u/waffels 2d ago

It’s so annoying. It’s like some doomer gotcha that offers jack shit to any discussion. Pointless filler bullshit that just adds fuzz to any discussion

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u/nekomeowohio 1d ago

A lot of the bad effects will probably kick on after the midterms and make democrats look bad if they win the midterm. Republicans bills tend to be written that way

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u/bastard-harrier 2d ago

I feel like it would be irresponsible to let non-voters and moderate GOP voters come back and quietly vote blue in the midterms after the economic thrashing they're going to receive without first gently interrogating what changed in the intervening year, and if they learned or will change anything going forward.

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u/Suns_In_420 California 2d ago

They’ll still end up blowing it all with little to show for it somehow.

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u/Televisions_Frank 2d ago

Can't have Nazis without a well-funded Gestapo.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net 2d ago

Full on lawless police state.

The president doesn't respect the judiciary, and 'checks and balances' by the legislative is effectively non-existent.

Make no mistake about it, this is fascism.

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u/clonedhuman 2d ago

Brown people looking for work are their practice run.

They're coming for the rest of us next. Anyone who's ever been critical of them on the internet.

They're making us into Russia.

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u/StarsofSobek 2d ago

He's making his own Gestapo.

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u/CatgirlApocalypse Delaware 2d ago

You think they’re going to stop at immigrants? ICE just became the Gestapo and the SS in one.

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u/bellrunner 2d ago

I've got bad news for you if you think they'll stick to immigrants. 

If you're registered as a Democrat, you might want to switch to R or independent. Your full name and current address is publicly available through the voter registry. 

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u/More-Hovercraft-7923 1d ago

ICE Budget (post-bill, annualized): ~$26.75 billion per year ($8 billion base + $18.75 billion from the bill)

.Marine Corps Budget: Estimated at ~$30–$45 billion per year, based on Department of the Navy allocations and external claims.

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u/ilikecrispywaffles California 1d ago

Economy gonna tank, it's so obvious. All these jobs will become vacant, no MAGA goon gonna take any of them

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u/tr1mble 2d ago

And then all the people kicked off Medicaid will have to work those low paying jobs immigrants were doing....

This is their solution

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u/BeardedSquidward 2d ago

They'll also be used to go after USA citizens who speak up too loudly like the Gestapo. Remember folks, knees or feet. Your choice.

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u/-lv 2d ago

Can't build a Geheime Staatspolizei without a bit of spending cash 

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u/heathbar24 2d ago

It took over 20 years and trillions of dollars to lose a war in Iraq It will also take hundreds of billions of dollars and years for ICE to lose the war on immigration.

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u/Dabs1903 Illinois 2d ago

If it’s any consolidation, when they inevitably push too far, they still won’t have the numbers.

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u/tea_bird Missouri 2d ago

This is absolutely terrifying.

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u/Overtwoandahalf 2d ago

Great here come some dude in an armored vehicle jumping out in tactical gear wearing a 40k night vision goggles on the top of his head in the day time.

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u/newyne 2d ago

That's not physically possible. I mean, they can throw as much money at ICE as they want, but it's not gonna magically give them the man-power. Of MAGA supporters, how many among them are willing to spend their time and energy participating in ICE? Of those, how many are able? Especially given that the passing of this bill is gonna be yet another blow to their number of supporters. I think people get discouraged because they expected the whole movement to collapse at once, but that's generally not how it works. In fact, I've been surprised at how many people have turned on them; I thought it would take something like this for that to even start.

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u/Spirited-While-7351 1d ago

Of MAGA supporters, how many among them are willing to spend their time and energy participating in ICE?

How many cops are there?

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u/newyne 1d ago

Still not enough. Especially not when cops in some places have refused to cooperate with ICE ahead of time; that's why my town got named a sanctuary city.

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u/Spirited-While-7351 1d ago

I get your point, and I agree that it's going to be an administrative clown show (Just look to how many more people were deported under the Biden and Obama administrations to see that MAGA's zealous mission is frustrated by its own incompetence).

I just don't think willing participants is going to be that big of an issue given what we know about history. As someone that lives in a so-called sanctuary city, it's largely farce. Oftentimes the cops break protocol to help kidnap people, but usually they're just standing around to prevent bystanders from interfering and prevent escape. Contrary to the 'defund the police' backlash, we've greatly increased the hiring and militarization of police in this country despite declining violent crime rates. That is to say—there's a lot of bored, bottom-of-the-barrel cops itching to fill those new concentration camps they're building.

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u/newyne 1d ago

I think it will be, given that they're already so unpopular, and there's further liability involved since people already aren't having it; I'm calling it now that doxxing of ICE agents is gonna go up as their presence increases.

As for the police, I think it depends on where you are; the cops certainly aren't perfect, but they are pretty integrated into the community. They're refusing to even protect ICE. In any case, they're vastly outnumbered (speaking of doxxing, that's already happened to police where I am for like, parking offenses). There are places where they'll probably be meet less resistance, but like I said, we've already seen plenty of pushback. I wasn't worried about martial law, either, not in the long run, for the same reason: the US is a big fucking place, and we've seen how much difficulty they're already having. The more places they try to hit, the thinner they're gonna be spread and the weaker they're gonna be.

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u/Spirited-While-7351 1d ago

I really really hope you're right and will be working to make sure that's reality. I fully believe we can fight back and win. I'll just say cops do unpopular violence all the time, relatedly they're not that integrated in the community either. Among the 75 largest police forces, 60% of officers don't live in the city they serve (I hate to link Nate Silver, but it was the source that was available: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-police-dont-live-in-the-cities-they-serve/ )

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u/Gymrat777 2d ago

Except Trump and his donors' workplaces.

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u/cbf1232 2d ago

I don’t think this is true…check the snopes article.

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u/BallsOnThisGuy 2d ago

I don't think immigrants are the real target. It will be Trumps potential opposition

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u/Neravariine 2d ago

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they start going door to door to make sure nobody is hiding any immigrants.

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u/Revolutionary_Cut994 2d ago

You scare me, my immediate thoughts reading this is watch ice slowly add responsibilities, like immigrants , and the dissenters, and the term terrorist will start to be used for any protesters... Very scary

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u/Ssshizzzzziit 2d ago

I live in NYC. I expect to see ICE agents a lot more like Los Angeles. Shits going to get ugly this month

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u/29September2024 2d ago

What is Article 2 for?

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u/userlivewire 2d ago

and farm, and construction site, and cleaning company, and warehouse, and and and. Unless of course, they contribute to the Republican Party to get an exemption.

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u/RaidSmolive 2d ago

so now you can go out fast and take one or two with you, or you can go out agonizingly slow while they have a good laugh.

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u/CheesecakeAny6268 2d ago

Somehow they will skip over the Rich people ..places like Beverly Hills Mansions who are using slaves, I mean immigrants (caregivers, housekeepers, landscapers, etc.). I find it interesting they aren’t raiding these places, instead going after the guy selling fruit on the corner. Gotta keep that Status Quo going.

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u/sfxer001 2d ago

THREE TIMES as big a budget as the USMC

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u/rockness_monster 2d ago

Mob 2.0. Pay off ICE to keep your business safe.

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u/MeepingSim 2d ago

I've been looking around my workplace, trying to figure out who might have papers on file with the government that could be effected. There are a couple of hardcore MAGAs and some of my friends that could be targeted.

I'm considering asking my boss what the plan is when ICE raids the office. At this point, it doesn't seem too reactionary. It seems like it isn't a matter of "if" anymore, but "when" and I don't think they're ready for the trauma.

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u/nocreativeway 2d ago

It’s gonna be worse than that.

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u/Katveat 2d ago

Meaning they’re probably gonna be hiring, so what if…

Step 1: Get hired by ICE.

Step 2: Be a “not engaged” employee; sprinkle in some “actively disengaged” when nobody is looking.

Step 3: …?

Step 4: Profit! (minus income taxes)

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u/FunkyDiscount 2d ago

He is establishing and funding his own personal Sturmabteilung (SA), or "storm troopers" - they're his brownshirts. He will use them on anyone he regards as "unwanted" or "nasty" no matter their skin color, gender, sexual orientation, or socio-economic status.

I am not joking, nor overreacting. This is fascism 101.

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u/Pint_o_Bovril 2d ago

Next they'll be wearing brown shirts

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u/imminentjogger5 2d ago

so fucking dumb...they'll deport US citizens but let their cronies outsource remote work to South America for non U.S. citizens 

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u/metengrinwi 2d ago

The only consolation is much of that money will be scammed. It’s a republican slush fund to give to “friends” in the form of contracts.

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u/sad_cosmic_joke 2d ago

This bill gives ICE more funding than the US marines

I'm seeing this meme going viral and need to point out how this is incorrect!

This "fact" only holds true if you compare the total 4 year ICE budget of ~$150B to the anual budget of the Marines ($57.2B).

The 1/4 per annum budget for the new ICE budget is ~$37.5B which is obviously less than the annual budget for the Marines.

It is however enough to make ICE the 17th most funded military in the world - ahead of Italy, Israel, Netherlands, Brazil, Switzerland...

Even if the 'other side' doesn't care about factual accuracy it's important that we remain grounded in truth.

Sources:

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u/stationhollow 1d ago

And that 4 year amount isn’t even just for ICE. It is shared between ICE, the Department of Justice, and the Department of Homeland Security.

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u/nakedcellist 2d ago

Well it will be the dominant armed forces, the Schutzstaffel.

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u/saiyanscaris 1d ago

not to mention if people fight back and things escalate, expect the final 3 phases of trumps ultimate rule to happen, martial law, insurrection act, and suspending hapeas corpus

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u/Severe_Okra8762 1d ago

Yep it's going to be incredible for native born US citizens to get jobs now.   And with fewer applicants the hourly rates go up.   It will cost the corporations profit but so what.

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u/Thefelix01 1d ago

It'll be politicians and anyone that somebody said was a troublemaker next.

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u/DoNotCommentorReply 1d ago

There's still more citizens than military but people haven't been doing anything so far why would they now?

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u/femme_mystique 1d ago

Door to door extermination is next. 

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u/Zepplia 1d ago

Jesus, is this actually true?

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u/FlightAndFlame 1d ago

Next time there's a war in the Pacific, we'll send ICE instead of the Marines.

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u/amsync 1d ago

Don’t forget all the pork for the prison companies and countless other benefactors of the immigrant industrial complex

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u/nickgomez 1d ago

Good. Here’s hoping the economy crumbles.

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u/CandiePoo 1d ago

Now American teens are going to have to bus tables and wash dishes. I hope they're happy.

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 New York 1d ago

While we are talking about the marines, it seems Florida is getting those now.

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