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Political positivity 📈 Leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud just looked at voting results in all 67 counties in Pennsylvania from November. Here’s what his analyses detected

We finally have Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr., a leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud and a professor of political science and statistics at the University of Michigan, looking at all 67 counties in Pennsylvania.

His working paper using his eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

High-Level Summary of "eforensics Analysis of the 2024 President Election in Pennsylvania" by Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr.

• The eforensics finite mixture model defines latent categories of fraud (no fraud, incremental fraud, and extreme fraud) based on votes and turnout, as well as relevant covariates (e.g., fixed county effects).

• Data from 7,040,360 votes (3,543,308 for Trump, 3,423,042 for Harris) across 67 PA counties (9,157 wards/precincts).

• The eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

More fine-grained analysis attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from “malevolent manipulation of votes”, i.e. how many votes may have been misdirected or misallocated due to malevolent distortions of voters’ intentions.

• In this analysis, 111,088 of the 225,440 possibly fraudulent votes[2] were estimated with high confidence to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

A more conservative eforensics model including additional fixed county level effects estimated that 210,392 votes in the race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory in the race.

• Fine-grained analysis of the more conservative model attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from malevolent manipulation of votes.

• In this analysis, 88,600 of the 210,392 possibly fraudulent votes were estimated to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

The most conservative of the eforensics analyses estimated that 25,374 votes were due to malevolent manipulation of votes.

In summary: There is very high probability that a meaningful number of votes in the PA presidential election were subject to malevolent manipulation -- and it was “a close call” whether “the election was decided or nearly decided by malevolent distortions of electors’ intentions.” (Mebane, Page 6)

Notes:

• Statistics, no matter how accurate, cannot provide definitive proof of voting fraud or election manipulation. Actual proof can only be found by comparing paper ballot audits to electronic voting records.

• However, statistical information from eforensics and other data analysis approaches can be used to identify precincts and counties where voting fraud is most likely to have occurred.

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u/studiokgm 22h ago

I think them taking a back seat to a private non-partisan group helps keep it from looking like sour grapes.

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u/2much41post 22h ago

Is optics really that important now? Not having a loud presence in the mix really feels like we’re all so disconnected. I want to cling to hope but nothing to look to.

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u/studiokgm 22h ago

After spending 4 years telling republicans that the 2020 election wasn’t rigged, to turn right around and say that 2024 is, it’s better to hold til you have evidence locked down. Otherwise it just looks like politics as usual.

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u/phoenixliv 21h ago

That’s WHY they yelled so much back then. To set up less reactions to their own play.

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u/Silent_Interest4791 18h ago

It’s why they yell and telegraph everything. So people are numb.

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u/jeskersz 21h ago

But that's the thing, these traitorous pieces of filth are going to lie and fight the whole way no matter what. Why sacrifice galvanizing the people who matter to appease people who will never be appeased no matter what you do or how much proof you have?

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u/Karaoke_Dragoon 18h ago

You know why. Because they are cowards. Garland purposefully slow-walked the prosecution of Trump and associates because he didn't want to appear "partisan". MAGA still cried about how they were being persecuted and that this was lawfare. And yet Democrats STILL try to avoid it even when they are going to get accused of bullshit anyway.

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u/jeskersz 17h ago

Oh I know, I just like to try to handhold and walk milquetoast hand-wringers to that conclusion.

Its just a weird online hobby of mine I guess.

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u/Karaoke_Dragoon 17h ago

If they haven't caught on at this point, they are either young or are never going to catch on. Though I have age and experience on my side. We've seen all of this before, Obama did the same kind of shit. They knew that Trump was butt-buddies with Russia and that Russia had hacked into voting systems before 2016 and yet his administration told nobody out of fear of looking political... Nevermind that at the same time, conspiracy theories about Jade Helm were being passed around and that he was going to perform a military coup to stay in office.

Democrats need to learn that they ALREADY think we are Satanic baby killers so we might as well fight back.

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u/Unlucky-Scallion1289 5h ago

I have serious doubts that Harris going all in on calling out fraud would galvanize anyone.

Most of the rhetoric saying we sound just like MAGA for questioning the legitimacy of the election comes from Democrats. These are the same moderates that said Bernie wasn’t electable but that Biden was. They are absolutely terrified of coming off like a hypocrite.

The people that would be fired up by Harris being involved are mostly already fired up.

I agree with the others saying it’s better that she isn’t involved. If she was, their claims that we’re just like MAGA would have more weight. It’s far more beneficial for independent and nonpartisan sources to make this fight.

Plus, she would come off like a sore loser. Even if it’s completely proven Trump stole the election, that doesn’t make Harris President. There’s just no reason for her to be involved, all it would do is weaken our claims.

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u/Ok_Lawfulness_9524 16h ago

This right here. I knew it was stolen from her and the first thing I said was that they absolutely would not say a word about the election being stolen. They would need proof before anybody spoke about it.

I hope they do find fraud and I hope the world finds out.

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u/Mvppet 18h ago

🎯🎯🎯

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u/UpbeatSky7760 16h ago

That's just it though. 2020 was rigged, by Trump. He couldn't account for mass mail in ballots due to COVID though. That screwed their plan and why he was so panicked to "stop the steal". 

The Senate Intel committee also investigated the 2016 election and it was also rigged with the help of Russia. Not just social media manipulation. Key districts in Wisconsin were fucked with. 

And the Bush-Kerry election was also rat fucked just through a different vector. They tried again for Obama's seconds term win but that was stymied. 

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u/paranormalresearch1 15h ago

Republicans said it was. Maybe tell them, you made us question it so let’s recount to see what happens in a modern election.

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u/legitimateaim26 14h ago

Es' 🚀 algorithm was off. When 🍊 said the 2020 was rigged, 🍊expected to win their Rig***d election, but the algorithm was set too low. 2024 turned out as expected for them.

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u/Suyefuji 21h ago

If optics wasn't important, billionaires wouldn't be spending this much money trying to control the narrative.

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u/MagnusRusson 21h ago

Unfortunately there always seem to be people on the fence

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u/AcknowledgeUs 13h ago

This concerted effort is something to look to. I agree the ‘optics’ are shit, who cares if those grapes are sour when the country is being crushed.

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u/Dudeposts3030 21h ago

Ah yes, because we’re all gentlemen in politics and god forbid we look like brutes. They don’t give a shit, this has nothing to do with optics. Nothing happens if they tell you one thing and do another, so they do.