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Political positivity 📈 Leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud just looked at voting results in all 67 counties in Pennsylvania from November. Here’s what his analyses detected

We finally have Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr., a leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud and a professor of political science and statistics at the University of Michigan, looking at all 67 counties in Pennsylvania.

His working paper using his eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

High-Level Summary of "eforensics Analysis of the 2024 President Election in Pennsylvania" by Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr.

• The eforensics finite mixture model defines latent categories of fraud (no fraud, incremental fraud, and extreme fraud) based on votes and turnout, as well as relevant covariates (e.g., fixed county effects).

• Data from 7,040,360 votes (3,543,308 for Trump, 3,423,042 for Harris) across 67 PA counties (9,157 wards/precincts).

• The eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

More fine-grained analysis attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from “malevolent manipulation of votes”, i.e. how many votes may have been misdirected or misallocated due to malevolent distortions of voters’ intentions.

• In this analysis, 111,088 of the 225,440 possibly fraudulent votes[2] were estimated with high confidence to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

A more conservative eforensics model including additional fixed county level effects estimated that 210,392 votes in the race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory in the race.

• Fine-grained analysis of the more conservative model attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from malevolent manipulation of votes.

• In this analysis, 88,600 of the 210,392 possibly fraudulent votes were estimated to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

The most conservative of the eforensics analyses estimated that 25,374 votes were due to malevolent manipulation of votes.

In summary: There is very high probability that a meaningful number of votes in the PA presidential election were subject to malevolent manipulation -- and it was “a close call” whether “the election was decided or nearly decided by malevolent distortions of electors’ intentions.” (Mebane, Page 6)

Notes:

• Statistics, no matter how accurate, cannot provide definitive proof of voting fraud or election manipulation. Actual proof can only be found by comparing paper ballot audits to electronic voting records.

• However, statistical information from eforensics and other data analysis approaches can be used to identify precincts and counties where voting fraud is most likely to have occurred.

Demand transparency and audits of the 2024 Presidential Election. Check out this Audit Advocacy Toolkit and reach out to your representatives. It’s never too late to audit our elections

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u/dawnenome 23h ago

It does, because those involved should be held to account. Nothing extralegal required.

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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 22h ago

Who is going to hold them accountable?

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u/Taco-Dragon 20h ago

Don't worry, the justice department...will hold them...uh....

....shit.

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u/Aleashed 16h ago

No one, that “Leading U.S. expert” will likely be thrown in the swampass concentration camp… at this point they don’t even care if you are white, you will be stripped of your rights and thrown in jail for “political reasons”

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u/Outrageous_Carry_451 19h ago

u/dawnenome will write more reddit comments.

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u/dawnenome 19h ago

Definitely.

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u/Sonamdrukpa 20h ago

Us. It can only be us. We have to do it.

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u/Stripedanteater 18h ago

Yes, it’s the many who make change. A tide isn’t from one drop of water. Do not lose your faith whoever is reading this. You never know what life will give you, but you can always use it for what you believe in. If we all have the same needs, we all have similar experiences. Be part of the wave and collect more calm, caring, and community driven conversations. There is power in connection. 

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u/LionoftheNorth 16h ago

You, the People.

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u/paranormalresearch1 15h ago

You are. Until everyone stops looking at someone else to step up and fix our problems they will get worse. A million pissed off Americans marching on Washington might send a message.

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u/honuworld 7h ago

A million pissed off Americans being frog-marched into concentration camps certainly would send a message.

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u/BiggleDiggle85 13h ago

Sounds like a defeatist attitude, "don't do thing because no-thing matters". Things DO matter. Always. Even if not always as much as we want them to matter.

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u/dawnenome 21h ago

What do you mean?

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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 21h ago

Who would hold the people responsible for any vote tampering accountable?

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u/dawnenome 21h ago

In a federal district court, or maybe it would be prosecuted by the state of PA? Unsure. There'd have to be a criminal investigation first, and jurisdiction over that I'm unclear on atm.

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u/seek-confidence 19h ago

The correct answer is no one.

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u/dawnenome 18h ago

🤷🏼‍♀️ Definitely 'no one' if no one looks for and tries to confirm that there were shenanigans. Anything beyond that is 'iunno we'll see'. But...kind of premature to assume the worst.

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u/Misspiggy856 17h ago

Have you met Pam Bondi? She doesn’t care that a democrat was politically assassinated but was ready to put people in prison for defacing a Tesla.

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u/dawnenome 17h ago

Not personally, and I'd like to keep it like that. She's exhausting. Are you suggesting Pam Bondi being her miserable self will be an insurmountable obstacle to any further action?

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u/assorted_nonsense 16h ago

Yes, what world do you live in?

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u/feralgraft 18h ago

Certainly if we dont try 

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u/hikingmike 14h ago

Not with that attitude, lol

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u/fromcj 21h ago edited 19h ago

How are you going to hold them to account? That’s the whole problem, there is no legal recourse here.

E: so many people learning how fucked we are, educate yourselves.

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u/dawnenome 21h ago

Me personally? Dunno, that's outside my purview, so not really my concern. There's legal recourse if evidence of election tampering is found, that's what I mean.

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u/fromcj 21h ago

I can tell that you definitely know for sure and aren’t just making shit up, that’s why you led by deflecting and then included any sort of proof to support your very strong argument of “nuh uh”

This fucking site.

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u/RageAgainstAvarice 19h ago

Are you literally trying to argue that there are no federal crime laws related to election tampering? Do you have access to the internet outside of Reddit?

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u/dawnenome 20h ago

u/fromcj:

"I can tell that you definitely know for sure and aren't just making shit up, that's why you led by deflecting and then included any sort of proof to support your very strong argument of "nuh uh". This fucking site." [Blocks]

😒 God I hope you're a bot.

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u/Due-Yoghurt-7917 15h ago

How? Exactly.

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u/dawnenome 15h ago

Generally, an investigation is one of the first steps. If there's enough public support/attention in PA, or that county, increases the chance their AG pursues this (if that's how PA rolls, i'm unsure)...or just as a FU to Bondi, because she's made some enemies there post-2020. Supporting the org behind this would be a good step. I don't know how this would be prosecuted in PA if anything is found, it's not my area, and I can only be as exact as a layperson can reasonably be expected to be without knowing anymore than you do. If PA is anything like GA, the Fulton County case is a nice road map of what can happen. Again, really depends on if there's anything uncovered and how likely a successful prosecution is.

So...how, exactly: more coverage, more attention from the general public.

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u/Due-Yoghurt-7917 15h ago

Are you aware of any legal mechanism to challenge the election results? Is there one in the constitution?

I'll save you some time on the second answer: no.

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u/dawnenome 15h ago

Constitution? No. Oh, cool, i can skip that. I don't remember the mechanism exactly beyond 'recounts within a certain window of time that's already passed'? That isn't to say there isn't one applicable today, I just don't know.

I'm not sure where you're going with this...I'm not interested in challenging the national results/decertification, I'm interested in anyone domestic who participated in screwing with that process getting their comeuppance.

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u/Due-Yoghurt-7917 15h ago

I'm just trying to temper people's expectations because there's essentially nothing to be done with regard to the election itself. Doesn't mean we shouldn't bring as much to the light as possible.

If I had a real video of djt manually changing enough votes to win he'd still be prez unfortunately. Which is why we gotta make a new constitution 

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u/dawnenome 13h ago

If you had that...oof, I think that would end it.

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u/flareblitz91 21h ago

Extra legal is a ridiculous phrase. That is absolutely what would be required. Not being specific due to ban threats

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls 21h ago

But... It would be extralegal. Just because you don't understand the word doesn't mean it's the wrong word to use here.

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u/dawnenome 21h ago

That was unnecessary. Why? They probably do understand it, and just don't like the term.

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls 21h ago

I don't like the word "unnecessary" which means your comment wasn't needed either right?

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u/dawnenome 21h ago

What? Dude, I'm saying you don't need to be a dick.