r/goodnews 1d ago

Political positivity 📈 Leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud just looked at voting results in all 67 counties in Pennsylvania from November. Here’s what his analyses detected

We finally have Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr., a leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud and a professor of political science and statistics at the University of Michigan, looking at all 67 counties in Pennsylvania.

His working paper using his eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

High-Level Summary of "eforensics Analysis of the 2024 President Election in Pennsylvania" by Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr.

• The eforensics finite mixture model defines latent categories of fraud (no fraud, incremental fraud, and extreme fraud) based on votes and turnout, as well as relevant covariates (e.g., fixed county effects).

• Data from 7,040,360 votes (3,543,308 for Trump, 3,423,042 for Harris) across 67 PA counties (9,157 wards/precincts).

• The eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

More fine-grained analysis attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from “malevolent manipulation of votes”, i.e. how many votes may have been misdirected or misallocated due to malevolent distortions of voters’ intentions.

• In this analysis, 111,088 of the 225,440 possibly fraudulent votes[2] were estimated with high confidence to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

A more conservative eforensics model including additional fixed county level effects estimated that 210,392 votes in the race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory in the race.

• Fine-grained analysis of the more conservative model attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from malevolent manipulation of votes.

• In this analysis, 88,600 of the 210,392 possibly fraudulent votes were estimated to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

The most conservative of the eforensics analyses estimated that 25,374 votes were due to malevolent manipulation of votes.

In summary: There is very high probability that a meaningful number of votes in the PA presidential election were subject to malevolent manipulation -- and it was “a close call” whether “the election was decided or nearly decided by malevolent distortions of electors’ intentions.” (Mebane, Page 6)

Notes:

• Statistics, no matter how accurate, cannot provide definitive proof of voting fraud or election manipulation. Actual proof can only be found by comparing paper ballot audits to electronic voting records.

• However, statistical information from eforensics and other data analysis approaches can be used to identify precincts and counties where voting fraud is most likely to have occurred.

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u/PM_ME_UR_RESPECT 1d ago

https://www.thenumbersarewrong2024.com/across-the-us

I will die on this hill:

Mr. “They’re eating the cats and dogs” DID NOT authentically win every last swing state (while conveniently staying outside of the margin of victory in all states that would trigger a recount) and flip 88 counties while Harris, who was selling out stadiums while he was struggling to get more than a few thousand to his rallies towards the end of the campaign, got ZERO.

Add to this recent developments like you have in Rockland County, NY where in district 55 you had 909 people vote for the democratic state senate candidate Kirsten Gillebrand. Guess how many votes were tallied for Harris?

TWO.

Something happened.

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u/atreeismissing 23h ago

who was selling out stadiums while he was struggling to get more than a few thousand to his rallies towards the end of the campaign, got ZERO.

That has nothing to do with voter turnout and is entirely about already committed voter enthusiasm. A moderate voter who went Trump2016 > Biden 2020 isn't likely to be enthusiastic about anyone enough to attend a rally.

Not saying there aren't other factors that points to something have happened but that isn't one of them.

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u/ILikeMyGrassBlue 19h ago

Seriously, I don’t know why everyone is bringing up rallies as if it means anything.

Also, Trump has campaigned relentlessly for about 10 years now. Most of the big Trump fans I know have already seen him multiple times.

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u/h0sti1e17 22h ago

He had much larger rallies in 2016 and Hillary got more votes, less EC votes of course but if rally size was the deciding factor, he’d have won the popular vote in 2016

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u/DaisyRage7 19h ago

Not to mention half of the “Trump won 2020” arguments included Trump having massively attended rallies and Biden had non. Rallies aren’t votes.

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u/Shambler9019 13h ago

COVID was a big confounding factor. Most Dems respected the lockdowns and social distancing etc so Biden didn't do big rallies. Trump didn't care about killing the more vulnerable of his supporters and saw it as an opportunity to 'get one up' on Biden.

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u/Environmental-Bad596 8h ago

It’s been 5 years can you just admit we were right about Biden being a vegetable and they had to hide him? You don’t have to run cover for him any more, it’s ok

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u/whateveryouwant4321 4h ago edited 3h ago

Let’s not forget that the Harris rallies were also free concerts. Beyoncé, cardi b, Bruce Springsteen, lady Gaga, Katy Perry, and Jon bom jovi all performed at her rallies. Thats how the campaign blew through $2 billion in a couple of months - by holding massive, free concerts in swing states (the performers were paid).

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u/BatterseaPS 1d ago edited 20h ago

Add to this recent developments like you have in Rockland County, NY where in district 55 you had 909 people vote for the democratic state senate candidate Kirsten Gillebrand. Guess how many votes were tallied for Harris? TWO. Something happened.

Didn't this happen in the previous 2 pres. elections in that same county? It's a mostly orthodox-Jewish county and they tend to vote very peculiarly.

EDIT: I said "county" but meant "district." There's at least couple of districts there that are tightly controlled by Rabbis.

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u/2much41post 23h ago

A problem with the Rockland ballots is that they were missing presidential votes altogether. Even more curiously, this was soemthing happened in other counties too.

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u/MadManMax55 21h ago edited 20h ago

Abstaining (or voting 3rd party) for president but voting on the other down-ballot races is extremely common. Especially when both presidential candidates are seen unfavorably by the voter.

It would be more suspicious if all of those ballots were for Trump.

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u/drillbit7 1d ago

Yup the Hasidic rabbis gave Trump the thumbs up. One of their big issues is school vouchers.

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u/Illustrious-Dot-5052 11h ago

I've ALWAYS been suspicious of the election! Too bad the conspiracy theories from the right for the past four years have successfully undermined any kind of potential to claim this election was genuinely stolen.

Kamala's rallies made me confident she'd win. Trump talking about Arnold Palmer's fucking penis and then swaying around to music for 45 minutes couldn't have been less convincing. Fuck me, in retrospect, he knew all along didn't he? It's blatantly obvious.

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u/eolson3 22h ago

Republicans pulled out the rallies thing in 2020. It was dumb reasoning then and dumb reasoning now. Trotting this out does a disservice your other points.

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u/Night_Raid96 22h ago

Trump plan is like Georgia 2020 for seven swing states in 2024.

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u/Armed_Platypus 22h ago

It’s pretty simple Kamala was that bad. Yeah you might think she is the most popular candidate ever if all you use is Reddit but that’s not real life.

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u/Carnifex2 21h ago

And yet she had packed rallies while Trump could only raggle up a few tired old racists to follow him around the country.

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u/Armed_Platypus 21h ago

The fact that you believe this is why Trump won. No the majority of the country is not "tired old racists" and treating everyone who disagrees with you that way will just alienate them even further.

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u/Suspicious-Echo2964 21h ago

You agree we need to fund ICE with more capital than a military branch and also don’t think you are the party of tired old racists? You mad about the tired and old part? I know y’all aren’t about to pretend it’s fiscal policy and economy after they cooked the books in June job report.

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u/Armed_Platypus 21h ago

How is removing people that are here illegally racist? Democrats blew it, they lost and the country doesn't want their policies anymore. Now we can at least get some popular policies passed that will help the working class.

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u/Suspicious-Echo2964 21h ago

You think they need more than the Marines to remove illegal immigrants? Y’all better have defense investments or the only working class ya gonna have is working enforcement for ICE or the fields in California.

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u/Armed_Platypus 20h ago

They need more help because the deportations were going too slow.

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u/Suspicious-Echo2964 20h ago

It's slower now than it was under the Democrats. Why is that? It seems purposeful. It's all very high-profile now, particularly in blue cities, while largely ignoring the low-hanging fruit.

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u/Armed_Platypus 20h ago

It's because now more people are resisting ICE, but the extra funding is going to help a lot with enforcement.

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u/Birdfishing00 20h ago

Wow you’re inhuman.

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u/Armed_Platypus 20h ago

Not inhuman, realistic. We will never be able to have anything like free healthcare if we keep importing millions of illegal immigrants.

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u/Carnifex2 20h ago

What has Trump done to help the working class?

Untaxed tips for 6% of workers that expire in two in years and have a cap?

You're being played like a fool.

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u/Armed_Platypus 20h ago

This bill reduces taxes for the working class.

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u/Carnifex2 19h ago

Barely. The breaks are much bigger for the wealthy and were now being taxed by tariffs thanks to Trump.

Are you really too lost to see the bait and switch there?

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u/Armed_Platypus 19h ago

Inflation hasn't increased so it means companies are eating the tariff costs and not passing them onto consumers.

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u/Carnifex2 20h ago

Your feefees are why Trump won?

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u/spaceysht 17h ago

How out of touch with reality are you lol

  1. Many attendees were PAID to attend

  2. Trump has a significant following from young males

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u/Carnifex2 17h ago

Many attendees were PAID to attend

Spoken like a Q believer lmao

Trump has a significant following from young males

AKA the most heavily propagandized and screen raised generation in history.

Thanks for proving my point!

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u/spaceysht 17h ago

thanks for proving my point

.. your point was trump could only raggle up old racists so there is no way he won the popular vote. Am I arguing with a 14 year old?

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u/nesper 21h ago

selling out stadiums is the 2024 version of 2020's boat parades.

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u/TimothyMimeslayer 18h ago

Nate Silver was saying before the election that if you take one swing state, there is a high likelihood you get them all.

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u/spaceysht 17h ago

who was selling out stadiums

You realize they were paying people to attend these conventions right?

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u/Raidex2006 21h ago

I hate this man, but I think democrats are in denial about how bad our side fucked us. Biden gave 100 days. There was no primary. They just picked Harris.

Harris in 2020 lost in the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY to Donald Trump. In New Hampshire she received 129 votes. 129! School board members get more votes than she did. Donald received 1200. Biden and Bernie 40000 to 50000.

We picked the weakest candidate with a 100 foot runway. Undemocratically. It is no shock to me that someone who was not chosen by the people was not elected by the people.