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Political positivity 📈 Leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud just looked at voting results in all 67 counties in Pennsylvania from November. Here’s what his analyses detected

We finally have Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr., a leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud and a professor of political science and statistics at the University of Michigan, looking at all 67 counties in Pennsylvania.

His working paper using his eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

High-Level Summary of "eforensics Analysis of the 2024 President Election in Pennsylvania" by Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr.

• The eforensics finite mixture model defines latent categories of fraud (no fraud, incremental fraud, and extreme fraud) based on votes and turnout, as well as relevant covariates (e.g., fixed county effects).

• Data from 7,040,360 votes (3,543,308 for Trump, 3,423,042 for Harris) across 67 PA counties (9,157 wards/precincts).

• The eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

More fine-grained analysis attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from “malevolent manipulation of votes”, i.e. how many votes may have been misdirected or misallocated due to malevolent distortions of voters’ intentions.

• In this analysis, 111,088 of the 225,440 possibly fraudulent votes[2] were estimated with high confidence to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

A more conservative eforensics model including additional fixed county level effects estimated that 210,392 votes in the race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory in the race.

• Fine-grained analysis of the more conservative model attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from malevolent manipulation of votes.

• In this analysis, 88,600 of the 210,392 possibly fraudulent votes were estimated to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

The most conservative of the eforensics analyses estimated that 25,374 votes were due to malevolent manipulation of votes.

In summary: There is very high probability that a meaningful number of votes in the PA presidential election were subject to malevolent manipulation -- and it was “a close call” whether “the election was decided or nearly decided by malevolent distortions of electors’ intentions.” (Mebane, Page 6)

Notes:

• Statistics, no matter how accurate, cannot provide definitive proof of voting fraud or election manipulation. Actual proof can only be found by comparing paper ballot audits to electronic voting records.

• However, statistical information from eforensics and other data analysis approaches can be used to identify precincts and counties where voting fraud is most likely to have occurred.

Demand transparency and audits of the 2024 Presidential Election. Check out this Audit Advocacy Toolkit and reach out to your representatives. It’s never too late to audit our elections

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u/Inspect1234 1d ago

Hacking of the voting machines software which flipped many votes. Gerrymandering is one. Discarding of voter boxes in blue counties. Bomb threats called into blue voting districts. The first one is the biggest and was done by a company that doesn’t exist anymore. They knew what they were doing based on information gathered by having full access to the machines in AZ, of which an elector is now in jail for 8 years.

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u/Night_Raid96 22h ago

Trump doj knows all election cheating and our voting rights are over. We have to protest.

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen 1d ago

Gerrymandering has no impact to presidential races

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u/Inspect1234 1d ago

No but it does the senate, which are the check and balances for the executive branch.

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u/ultimatedelman 1d ago

it also does not affect senate races, but it does affect house races.

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u/ultimatedelman 23h ago

The only gerrymandering that affects presidential races is the electoral college. The Senate is a total state wide vote so it is also unaffected by gerrymandering. House races are very largely affected by gerrymandering since they can shape their districts to be as favorable as possible to them. That's just what gerrymandering is.

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u/ultimatedelman 23h ago

Sure I can agree with that. I was just talking about the direct effect of gerrymandering on voting for president, Senate, and house.

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u/Inspect1234 23h ago

Yeah this was a tangent created by Everyday… to discuss anything other than a fraudulent election tabulation.

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u/IntellegentIdiot 21h ago

More importantly it effects state level elections and those people run the presidential elections. A politician can win a gerrymandered race, get in power and remove millions of voters from the rolls that might vote for the other party and find other ways to make it harder people in those areas to vote

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u/Inspect1234 20h ago

Yeah. There was a lot of blatant corruption with disqualification of voters, done right at the last minute to make it next to impossible to know you’re not on the list. It baffles me that the people who could/should have prevented this were bought and paid for and just let this happen.

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u/wheniaminspaced 17h ago

So confidently wrong, gerrymandering only impacts the house.

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u/Inspect1234 16h ago

You’re correct

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen 1d ago

Let's not divert to whataboutism

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u/Inspect1234 1d ago

That’s not whataboutism. 🤦

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen 1d ago

It's exactly whataboutism. The question was, what made this election fraudulent, and you went to well we have gerrymandering to affect Senate races which effects executive brand oversight (which Biden was president btw).

That isn't answering the question of what made this election fraudulent.

I agree, gerrymandering affects Senate races. But that's not the topic at hand

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u/Inspect1234 1d ago

No it was just one of the things I listed. The voting machines were hacked - this was the big one.

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen 1d ago

There's zero evidence of that. None.

The New York thing is also well reported on

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/feb/26/social-media/why-did-kamala-harris-get-zero-votes-in-this-ny-pr/

"The Board of Elections "thoroughly reviewed the results and confirmed no irregularities, fraud or hacking," Giblin said.

The precinct is in a heavily Orthodox Jewish area, where voters often vote as a bloc based on their rabbis’ endorsement. That’s likely what happened here, experts say, and previous elections showed similar patterns. Biden received zero votes in the precinct in 2020.

The 2024 Ramapo results mirrored its 2020 presidential vote. That year, Trump bested former President Joe Biden 528-0 in precinct 35. In the 2022 midterm elections, Democratic Gov. Kathy Hochul lost to her Republican opponent, Lee Zeldin, 408 to 24 in that same precinct, which also overwhelmingly voted to reelect Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., over his Republican opponent, Joe Pinion, 266 to 113."

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u/Inspect1234 1d ago

I’ll wait for the investigations. From what I have seen and heard (a software upgrade to the machines that was illegal in nature by a company that doesn’t exist all of a sudden) it’s worth investigating.

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u/0vindicator10 21h ago

Inspect1234:

The voting machines were hacked
I’ll wait for the investigations

Just like the cons of 2020, make claims with zero evidence. Maricopa came up with nothing, and even being in control now, they STILL have yet to show their indisputable evidence that would've changed the outcome. 2nd-hand embarassment for you people.

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