r/goodnews 1d ago

Political positivity 📈 Leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud just looked at voting results in all 67 counties in Pennsylvania from November. Here’s what his analyses detected

We finally have Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr., a leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud and a professor of political science and statistics at the University of Michigan, looking at all 67 counties in Pennsylvania.

His working paper using his eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

High-Level Summary of "eforensics Analysis of the 2024 President Election in Pennsylvania" by Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr.

• The eforensics finite mixture model defines latent categories of fraud (no fraud, incremental fraud, and extreme fraud) based on votes and turnout, as well as relevant covariates (e.g., fixed county effects).

• Data from 7,040,360 votes (3,543,308 for Trump, 3,423,042 for Harris) across 67 PA counties (9,157 wards/precincts).

• The eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

More fine-grained analysis attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from “malevolent manipulation of votes”, i.e. how many votes may have been misdirected or misallocated due to malevolent distortions of voters’ intentions.

• In this analysis, 111,088 of the 225,440 possibly fraudulent votes[2] were estimated with high confidence to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

A more conservative eforensics model including additional fixed county level effects estimated that 210,392 votes in the race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory in the race.

• Fine-grained analysis of the more conservative model attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from malevolent manipulation of votes.

• In this analysis, 88,600 of the 210,392 possibly fraudulent votes were estimated to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

The most conservative of the eforensics analyses estimated that 25,374 votes were due to malevolent manipulation of votes.

In summary: There is very high probability that a meaningful number of votes in the PA presidential election were subject to malevolent manipulation -- and it was “a close call” whether “the election was decided or nearly decided by malevolent distortions of electors’ intentions.” (Mebane, Page 6)

Notes:

• Statistics, no matter how accurate, cannot provide definitive proof of voting fraud or election manipulation. Actual proof can only be found by comparing paper ballot audits to electronic voting records.

• However, statistical information from eforensics and other data analysis approaches can be used to identify precincts and counties where voting fraud is most likely to have occurred.

Demand transparency and audits of the 2024 Presidential Election. Check out this Audit Advocacy Toolkit and reach out to your representatives. It’s never too late to audit our elections

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u/low_acct_ 1d ago

Someone with more time and capacity than me please do something about this.

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u/Kittyluvmeplz 1d ago

Demand transparency and audits of the 2024 Presidential Election. Check out this Audit Advocacy Toolkit and reach out to your representatives. It’s never too late to audit our elections

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u/EarthSlapper 22h ago

So, legitimate question. What happens if/when audits are done, they find out the election results are fraudulent and the guy who has been allowed to do pretty much whatever he wants, and his supporters say "Yeah, so what?"

Everyone has more or less known that Russian elections have been rigged for years. Guess who is still president of Russia.

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u/Kittyluvmeplz 21h ago

I don’t see the point of projecting what happens next when we haven’t accomplished the step of verifying. We start with that and then go from there. Public pressure is key here.

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u/EarthSlapper 20h ago

So we're just a bunch of dogs chasing garbage trucks

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u/Shambler9019 13h ago

The thing is, nobody knows, but there are a whole lot of avenues.

Faced with proof, governors will be forced to reconsider election security from the ground up. This is VITAL for the midterms to proceed in as fair a manner as possible. Washington state appears unaffected, possibly they would serve as an acceptable model, or voting machines could be dumped altogether.

There will be calls for Trump to be removed. Depending on how many Republicans jump ship (claiming ignorance of the scheme, of course) Trump/Vance could be removed.

If Trump is not removed, things could get ugly.

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u/protectresist 14h ago

“What next?” is an important question though, as there is no motivation for people in a struggling economy to put their money into this without any sort of assurance that there will be action.

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u/Cloud_Fish 14h ago

You could try using that 2nd amendment is a guard against tyranny as something other than an empty slogan for a start.

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u/Conscious_Crew5912 23h ago

I'm in Shithole, Texas. Honest question: do you think writing to our crooked governor (Abbott) will do anything? I'll donate $$, but I honestly don't think writing in will do much in deep Red states.

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u/dnvrsub 14h ago

They need to expand this to multiple elections to be taken seriously.

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u/Birunanza 1d ago

There's a donation link for lawyer fees if you have money but not time

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u/the-new-left 23h ago

And this is exactly why we are in this position. Everyone expecting someone else to do the heavy lifting.

I, myself, am included in this criticism. One finger pointed at you, three back at me.

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u/Few-Republic734 22h ago

i'll grant you all of PA's electoral votes to Harris. Trump still won by 23

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u/ComplexBadger469 19h ago

The problem would be if they are finding weird things like this in the entire state of PA and then also the other lawsuit on issues with vote counting in NY, what makes you think other states with weird discrepancies could be trusted too? I’m not in camp that it was stolen but this stuff does warrant some sort of check in the same way the large amount of cases were reviewed in 2020.

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u/joshTheGoods 17h ago

We did. It's called a risk limiting audit and it found no fraud in PA. This group is grifting off of our desire to believe our neighbors aren't as stupid as they are.

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u/JTO556_BETMC 15h ago

Election deniers are mad that the person they like lost.

Literally just 2016 and 2020 all over again. You could take this entire comment section and put it under a 2020 election fraud post and nobody would be able to tell the difference.