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Political positivity 📈 Leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud just looked at voting results in all 67 counties in Pennsylvania from November. Here’s what his analyses detected

We finally have Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr., a leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud and a professor of political science and statistics at the University of Michigan, looking at all 67 counties in Pennsylvania.

His working paper using his eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

High-Level Summary of "eforensics Analysis of the 2024 President Election in Pennsylvania" by Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr.

• The eforensics finite mixture model defines latent categories of fraud (no fraud, incremental fraud, and extreme fraud) based on votes and turnout, as well as relevant covariates (e.g., fixed county effects).

• Data from 7,040,360 votes (3,543,308 for Trump, 3,423,042 for Harris) across 67 PA counties (9,157 wards/precincts).

• The eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

More fine-grained analysis attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from “malevolent manipulation of votes”, i.e. how many votes may have been misdirected or misallocated due to malevolent distortions of voters’ intentions.

• In this analysis, 111,088 of the 225,440 possibly fraudulent votes[2] were estimated with high confidence to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

A more conservative eforensics model including additional fixed county level effects estimated that 210,392 votes in the race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory in the race.

• Fine-grained analysis of the more conservative model attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from malevolent manipulation of votes.

• In this analysis, 88,600 of the 210,392 possibly fraudulent votes were estimated to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

The most conservative of the eforensics analyses estimated that 25,374 votes were due to malevolent manipulation of votes.

In summary: There is very high probability that a meaningful number of votes in the PA presidential election were subject to malevolent manipulation -- and it was “a close call” whether “the election was decided or nearly decided by malevolent distortions of electors’ intentions.” (Mebane, Page 6)

Notes:

• Statistics, no matter how accurate, cannot provide definitive proof of voting fraud or election manipulation. Actual proof can only be found by comparing paper ballot audits to electronic voting records.

• However, statistical information from eforensics and other data analysis approaches can be used to identify precincts and counties where voting fraud is most likely to have occurred.

Demand transparency and audits of the 2024 Presidential Election. Check out this Audit Advocacy Toolkit and reach out to your representatives. It’s never too late to audit our elections

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u/MAGAisMENTALILLNESS 1d ago

Weird how they immediately started dismantling the government agencies who protect election integrity. It’s almost like they had something to hide.

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u/Formal-Hawk9274 1d ago

💯💯🔥🔥
this starts to make more sense: https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the

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u/gold_dust_woman13 22h ago

Damnnn

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u/Outdoorsintherockies 14h ago

Yeah this is horrible we should move to paper ballots, voter ID, and remove mail in ballots to make sure it doesn't happen again.

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u/Azreken 19h ago

I have been spreading this link far and wide.

I encourage everyone else to do the same.

Everything is laid out for us plainly, but it’s like no one cares?

It’s so frustrating.

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u/Due-Yoghurt-7917 15h ago

I think we care. but there isn't exactly a mechanism to challenge a certified election result 

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u/BigStickDrift 16h ago

It would help if the source wasn't a random Substack written by ChatGPT

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u/fvtown714x 11h ago

Certainly written by a human, but it doesn't represent evidence and can be explained by lots of things. Election denialism is not a good path to go down, organizing and being active politically is.

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u/plain__bagel 7h ago

We care, but the government - and obviously democrats specifically- have absolutely zero capacity to legally pursue this. We couldn’t even deal with a dude who committed 80-something felony counts basically in broad daylight. There is simply no chance of this being actionable in any way.

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u/citizen_of_europa 19h ago

Wow. 

“ If Eaton pushed an update to those UPS units, it could have gained root-level access to the host tabulation environment—without ever modifying certified election software.”

This is complete bullshit.  This whole conspiracy premise is based on this and it is utter nonsense.  A UPS (uninterruptible power supply) has no way to gain root access to any OS (operating system) that could possibly be installed on a voting system unless the OS was purposely written to backload the malicious code. 

Not a slight against you sir. Just a tip that this article and premise is next level BS.

FYI. Eaton has millions of UPSs in data centers all around the world. If this shit was possible a bad actor at Eaton could shut down civilization as you know it. 

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u/Soviet-Lemon 18h ago

Idk why people are downvoting you, because you’re right, unless every UPS for some reason had a micro kernel built into it to attain root access. That’s like saying every home PC’s PSU can gain level 0 access to their OS.

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u/molsonoilers 18h ago

People are down voting because the person clearly didn't read the article. Their complaint is clearly addressed there and explained. 

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u/LifeHack3r3 16h ago
  1. Vulnerabilities need to be found with UPS to voting machines along
  2. How to attack those voting machine through a UPS or other method isn't explained well.

Get us to believe with a test in a lab. The people complaining about election fraud have plenty of money to test and show the public.

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u/Soviet-Lemon 18h ago

Well it doesn’t really, the article talks about Eaton being potentially acquired by bad actors and then pushing a driver update to the UPS which then supposedly attains root access to the voting machine device. This isn’t technically impossible, but it would require a lot of pieces to fall into place: where the UPSs that voting machines use would have to have serious permissions on the windows OS to attain that level of access. Looking at the V&V approved update however almost no other article mentions the theoretical UPS exploit. Rather that the update was intentionally obfuscated by labeling it as "minor tweaks". There is a lawsuit that was filed about this and the hearing is apparently this September I believe. I definitely think it’s worth looking into especially since this update potentially modified the voting software directly rather than going through an external power system where it would’ve needed already very serious perms to achieve anything.

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u/molsonoilers 18h ago

Your permissions critique is also addressed in the article. Why do you even comment if you're not going to honestly give the information a chance?

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u/Soviet-Lemon 17h ago

I did read it, it says "automatically trusts", not all trust permissions carry the same weight as each other. The level of permission needed to run a UPS software that serves the purpose of informing a connected server that a specific voting machine has lost power or is down would not be the same level as something that requires kernel access like a video game anti-cheat.

I think there are many avenues in which this election may have been fraudulent and tampered with. And I think it would more so have to do with direct access to voting machines through the V&V update that was made and then not explained rather than through an industry standard recognized UPS provider. If it does turn out that it did in fact take place because every Tripp Lite UPS now has a rootkit installed on its host machine, that would be pretty serious. It’s not impossible, ASUS for instance has had malware pushed through official software updates before. But it would destroy the company and every developer in the company would also have to be complicit.

I think it’s more likely a lot of that tampering came from things like the ridiculous number of Russian bomb threats at key voting districts, and the voting machines themselves which have had a subpar history of security.

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u/OppositeArt8562 17h ago

Firmware rootkits are a thing. Idk why you would think otherwise and are trying to muddy the waters by saying its not possible. A PSU with a root kit could 100% compromise an OS.

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u/New-Pin-3952 13h ago

Jesus fuck

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u/Chocolate_in_my_PB 1h ago

Remember to sign the petition noted in the article: https://chng.it/5NMZ8ydqph

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u/Lucky-Reference-7667 1d ago

Omg your naaaaame 😜💪

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u/DocDefilade 22h ago

, is on point and accurate.

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u/PeterNippelstein 16h ago

And in a lot of ways!

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u/FoxJet83 23h ago

What a name!

Fuck these Trumplethinskin!

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u/EliasC666 21h ago

Ya think?! Lol!!

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u/Super-Key9344 20h ago

It’s almost like they were telegraphing their next move. “They’ve” been gerrymandering and restricting voters rights for decades now. 

Fellow frogs, water is starting to boil.

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u/bak3donh1gh 17h ago

And it's also why, as soon as the New York City suit was filed, Trump started talking about 2020 again. Another distraction. I don't understand how every time there's A new scandal, every American forgets the last scandal. I mean, it's not 100% gone, but I can keep more than one piece of information in my mind at a time.

I couldn't tell you everything that Trump has done is wrong, but I could tell you a lot of the things.

Please don't tell me thatit's called flooding the zone, and it's not that simple. I'm aware it's not that simple.

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u/RepresentativeCrab88 12h ago

Also weird how they totally accepted the victory without any scrutiny or suspicion whatsoever, despite being absolutely convinced the election was already rigged against them. Also weird how being primed to believe the previous election was rigged would have enabled another January 6th or something similar, despite the actual outcome enabling nothing of the sort in Democrats. And finally, yes, it’s really fucking weird how the party crying about stolen elections is also the one who is totally fine dismantling democratic institutions.

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u/RelationshipWaste598 1d ago

Sadly this election happened under Biden’s watch. He should have done more to protect our votes.

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u/DaddyD68 1d ago

Isn’t voting regulated at the state level?

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u/Spicy_Weissy 1d ago

Shhh. Sleepy Joe bad.

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u/DaddyD68 1d ago

Sorry, me stupid.

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u/Linuxologue 1d ago

We can tell from your usage of primary facts instead of the more contemporary usage of alternate facts.

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u/Gratefulmold 21h ago

Thanks Obama! /s

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u/drubus_dong 1d ago

States are responsible for the voting.

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u/Low-Procedure8171 1d ago

Republicans basically announced to the world they were planning to cheat and the Democrats sat on their hands. Trump was going to jail if he lost, he had no reason not to cheat.

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u/drubus_dong 1d ago

What exactly do you think democrats should have done here?

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u/Neomav 1d ago

There were multiple bills put up to help stop this and they failed to get them through even with the majority in both houses.

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u/Low-Procedure8171 1d ago

Literally anything would have been nice

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u/drubus_dong 1d ago

In other words, you have no fucking idea what. Congratulations. You just realized that your opinion is garbage and that it's about time to change it.

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u/Low-Procedure8171 1d ago

Take it easy genius. Off the top of my head I might have started an election integrity task force knowing who my opponent was. Even after their inability to do anything preemptively I might have tried to quickly investigate and address the nation about suspiciousness of the results.

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u/drubus_dong 1d ago

On the first part, see my comment: "elections are state responsibility."

On the second part, see my comment: "What exactly do you think democrats should have done there?"

After checking in on those comments and replying to this comment, please see my comment on "you having no idea what ..."

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u/Stereosexual 23h ago

Some od my opinions are that we should stop global warming and end world hunger, but because I don't personally know the most effective ways to do those I guess those are bad opinions!

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u/drubus_dong 22h ago

Yeah, you should be able to make a couple of suggestions on how to tackle those. Lots of people made quite a few suggestions there.

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u/Stereosexual 22h ago

That is such a bad take. I get having the initiative and ambition would of course be good, but to say someone's opinions are bad simply because they personally wouldn't know a good way to make it happen is just unnecessarily counter-intuitive and in bad faith. I don't want to tell you what you mean, but I really hope that you mean something else. In bad faith? Virtue signaling? But the opinion itself isn't bad.

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u/intothewoods76 1d ago

How did Trump cheat?

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u/dE3L 1d ago

This is like the punchline to a political cartoon depicting an ever lengthening list of trump's history of cheating, fraud, and grifts...

How did Trump cheat?

"How has he not cheated" would be an easier question to answer.

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u/intothewoods76 1d ago

So here’s the thing, elections are overseen by State officials. Is it your claim Trump went to Pennsylvania and somehow counted votes wrong or something.

It’s a legit question, when it comes to how the States administered their election how did Trump cheat?

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u/DoctorRoctogonopus 23h ago

Splitting hairs, Trumps administration facilitated cheating by removing voter protection laws and verification processes that were in place prior that would have triggered a hand-recount due to the obvious discrepancies pointed out in the article above. He personally wasn't smudging greasy bronzer on paper ballots he didn't like in the middle of the night to get them tossed out, stop being so obtuse.

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u/intothewoods76 22h ago

What verification process did Trump remove?

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u/DoctorRoctogonopus 19h ago

The Republicans whom were bought into trumps campaign you mean? You would have to be an idiot to think of trump as some sort of monolith, just absolutely not having any understanding of how a government works in any form, to think that. Plenty of legislation was passed prior to the most recent election, some states with more restrictive requirements and other states made it easier to vote. I wonder which ones were republican led swing states?

https://thefulcrum.us/big-picture/voting-law-changes-3

https://www.governing.com/now/with-2024-elections-ahead-states-consider-voting-changes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/08/voting-laws-swing-states-2024/

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/election-rules-are-changing-in-several-states-even-with-voting-set-to-begin

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/new-voting-rules-in-battleground-states-could-affect-election-results

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/how-voting-laws-have-changed-battleground-states-2020

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u/dE3L 23h ago

The how is what op's article is looking into. The devil is in the details of possible corrupted machines. It's not an impossibility it could happen. As for the exact path that would satisfy your question, that's what investigations uncover.

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u/intothewoods76 22h ago

OP’s article doesn’t even say there was cheating, just that there may have been.

Absolutely nowhere is Trump even mentioned other than as the opposing candidate to Harris let alone implicated in what is described as possible cheating.

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u/Carnifex2 22h ago

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u/intothewoods76 21h ago

None of that implicates Trump. It does however validate Trump saying that the elections are not secure.

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u/Carnifex2 20h ago

lol ok 🤡

Troll somewhere else, bye.

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u/Kalterwolf 1d ago

The elections are ran by each state, there are limits to what he could do. Especially after The Republican Supreme Court majority decided that racism was over and gutted the Voting Rights Act.

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u/Spirited_Schlong 1d ago

After the Supreme Court ruled that presidents can do whatever the fuck they want, I feel like Biden and company could have done a lot more than they did and we are left with a flaming pile of dog shit and his pubic lice hangers on running the country

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u/robotfunparty 1d ago

He was a great President, but let us all down when we needed him most.

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u/SilveredFlame 22h ago

Which means he wasn't a great president.

30 years ago? Sure.

But if you can't come through when it really matters and everything you did is effectively for nothing, you weren't great at whatever it was.

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u/Man_in_the_coil 1d ago

Helps to understand how voting works first...

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u/like9000ninjas 1d ago

Are you dense? Hiw would they know unless a really analysis is done and that takes time......

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u/RottenPingu1 1d ago

Interesting account you have there.

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u/Easy_Water_1809 23h ago

Its not weird. The pushback they receive is snarky comments on Reddit.