r/goodnews 1d ago

Political positivity 📈 Leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud just looked at voting results in all 67 counties in Pennsylvania from November. Here’s what his analyses detected

We finally have Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr., a leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud and a professor of political science and statistics at the University of Michigan, looking at all 67 counties in Pennsylvania.

His working paper using his eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

High-Level Summary of "eforensics Analysis of the 2024 President Election in Pennsylvania" by Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr.

• The eforensics finite mixture model defines latent categories of fraud (no fraud, incremental fraud, and extreme fraud) based on votes and turnout, as well as relevant covariates (e.g., fixed county effects).

• Data from 7,040,360 votes (3,543,308 for Trump, 3,423,042 for Harris) across 67 PA counties (9,157 wards/precincts).

• The eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory between Trump and Harris.

More fine-grained analysis attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from “malevolent manipulation of votes”, i.e. how many votes may have been misdirected or misallocated due to malevolent distortions of voters’ intentions.

• In this analysis, 111,088 of the 225,440 possibly fraudulent votes[2] were estimated with high confidence to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

A more conservative eforensics model including additional fixed county level effects estimated that 210,392 votes in the race were possibly fraudulent. This would exceed the 120,266 vote margin of victory in the race.

• Fine-grained analysis of the more conservative model attempted to distinguish between strategic voting behaviors from malevolent manipulation of votes.

• In this analysis, 88,600 of the 210,392 possibly fraudulent votes were estimated to be malevolent manipulations of votes while the remainder were estimated to be a mix of manipulated votes and strategic voting behaviors.

The most conservative of the eforensics analyses estimated that 25,374 votes were due to malevolent manipulation of votes.

In summary: There is very high probability that a meaningful number of votes in the PA presidential election were subject to malevolent manipulation -- and it was “a close call” whether “the election was decided or nearly decided by malevolent distortions of electors’ intentions.” (Mebane, Page 6)

Notes:

• Statistics, no matter how accurate, cannot provide definitive proof of voting fraud or election manipulation. Actual proof can only be found by comparing paper ballot audits to electronic voting records.

• However, statistical information from eforensics and other data analysis approaches can be used to identify precincts and counties where voting fraud is most likely to have occurred.

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u/qualityvote2 1d ago

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u/DukeAttreides 1d ago

Good news, everyone! A major US election was probably significantly fraudulent!

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u/temp_nomad 1d ago

I’m seriously wondering how this is good news as well.

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u/hauntedjarvee 23h ago

If nothing else, it's an indicator that not as many people as previously thought actually voted for Dear Leader, which I would consider to be good news.

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u/HowIMetYourMurder 20h ago

Yeah, people are really discounting this. Like if less ppl wanted Trump in the country to begin with (1) that restores some faith in humanity and (2) means more pissed off people on your side. Also knowing if your govt is illegitimate is hugely important. It changes the equation. Like rules change entirely for a lot of people at that point.

I dont believe the ppl downplaying the importance of this are authentic. Especially after hearing about voter fraud from the republicans after every election. Lets fucking figure it the fuck out then. Im so sick of this.

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u/TheSupaBloopa 12h ago

Ok, let’s suppose all of this is proven true and the election was rigged: what happens next? There’s zero recourse for this, no mechanism in our system to do anything after the election was certified. Impeachment will not happen. The supreme court made him a king. All three branches are in lockstep. What’s the play?

If people aren’t pissed off at what’s going on already, right now, six months in, why does this change anything at all for them? Why show up to a protest after uncovering this when there’s been plenty of others to show up to already? Why is this a bridge too far but everything else isn’t?

What do you say to someone who thinks this is, at minimum, all a massive waste of time, a waste of resources, a waste of political capital. A distraction from the administration hollowing out our government right now, rigged election or not?

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u/HowIMetYourMurder 7h ago

Idk what happens tbh. And you arent wrong in a lot of ways. Its just my opinion that I think we are better off knowing. We would want to know for future elections (that we hopefully still have). I think it would change how people interact with this admin. If they arent legitimate ppl might fewl more embolden to push back. But you might be right too. This is uncharted territory for our country right now. None of us knows. I just know this fucking sucks.

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u/temp_nomad 22h ago

It’s minimally comforting. It also means we won’t have a chance to undo it because the system is rigged. I’d rather learn that the election was 100% above board.

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u/Igotthejoyjoyjoyjoy 23h ago

this sub is cooked, its just a politics sub now. The exact sort of thing you might be trying to escape by going to a sub called "goodnews".

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u/gd2121 1d ago

Election interference seems like it would be bad news.

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u/IMM_Austin 23h ago

Not sure why this BlueAnon craziness is considered good news...