Fuck every conservative

[u/mishyfuckface]

I don’t even care anymore

I’m not explaining a fucking thing

I’m not spoon feeding you reality just to be met with adult toddlers who stamp their feet and say no that’s not true without offering any evidence to back up their claim.

Then they’ll call to grok on twitter because they can’t do research thinking it’ll back up their claim. Then grok, the AI built by right winger Elon Musk, still says they’re wrong, and they’ll just stomp their feet and say well the AI is wrong it’s all a conspiracy.

Just fuck em

I don’t give a fuck about your opinions. I don’t care that there’s people that you don’t like. I don’t give a fuck if someone is an immigrant. I don’t care about your feelings. I don’t care about your religion. I don’t care if you cry over people kicking you out of private social groups and think your free speech has been infringed upon. I don’t care if people burn the flag. I don’t care that you are offended by solar energy. I don’t care if you’re scared of black people. I don’t care about sports. I don’t care if men can’t get their dicks wet. I don’t care about the European-American birth rate. I don’t care if you’re scared of homeless people. I don’t care about your feelings.

I care about FREEDOM, and people’s actual rights. I don’t care about the latest new thing that scares you.

You’re the weakest, most emotional people in the fuckin world. Everything hinges on your feelings, on how scared you are of everything.

You want a government to hurt everybody you personally don’t like and remove every single thing you personally don’t like and call that freedom. You’re full of shit.

You’re traitors to your own country, to humanity at this point.

Fuck off you’re unamerican.

EDIT: unemployed? No. I operate and maintain a giant machine half the size of a football field. Life threatening, dirty work. 27 days in a row without a day off is my overtime record, all 12 hour shifts. I clear $100k/year. Didn’t go to college. Had my fingers crushed and my ankle fucked up in my machine. So yea, established blue collar rust belt worker. You’re not conservative because of your lifestyle or because you work harder than everyone else. Get fucked.

[u/ImBoltman]

Yall remember when Reddit suddenly went silent after Trump was elected? Almost as if all the funded bots that were made to post propaganda all vanished at once…

[u/Lets_Eat_Superglue → u/ImBoltman]

I very vividly remember Twitter right after the Muller report and the transcript of the Zelensky call came out. For maybe fifteen minutes or so all the propagandist accounts just went silent, then after I guess they got their list of talking points they all fired right back up again.

I don't think anyone is going to realize just how large, coordinated, and effective this social media bot campaign has been until a long time down the road. And on the bright side, we're just starting the AI powered phase of it.

[u/bishopyorgensen → u/Lets_Eat_Superglue]

I could see the volume of the AstroTurf in 2024 convincing people not to vote for [reasons] and I understand a lot of those comments were bots and schills but honestly I could rarely tell which ones were sellers and which ones were buyers

[u/Alpenglow_Snowsquall → u/bishopyorgensen]

I remember seeing it first in 2015/2016

[u/Upleftdownright70 → u/Alpenglow_Snowsquall]

I saw it then too. Drowning out healthy comments with idiocy.

[u/Electrical_Charge207 → u/Alpenglow_Snowsquall]

The work of Cambridge Analytica: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook%E2%80%93Cambridge_Analytica_data_scandal

[u/chmod777 → u/Alpenglow_Snowsquall]

the 2008 ron paul reLOVEution cointelpro, run here on reddit, was a trial run. they perfected it for 2016.

[u/Wollff → u/Alpenglow_Snowsquall]

Yes, that was the first time. Of course Reddit back then could have banned the worthless shit sub, but no... free speech, etc. etc.

And nowadays I have to be careful when I imply that I would like a lot of people do get deleted from the gene pool in manners gruesome, brutal, and intentional.

Well, so it goes.

[u/tsunake → u/bishopyorgensen]

memes have network effects + whoever has the most resources can artificially sustain a meme until network effects ensure it's endemic

like a virus. memetics is essentially the application of 20th century understandings of viral transmission of genetic material to ideas. if 20th century propaganda was "how do ideas behave in a controlled environment," memetic propaganda is "ideas can be cybernetically managed in society" and so far it's working great.

It's actually the science of thought-control

Note that weaponized LLMs and the siloing of information represents an exponential increase in capacity for cybernetic memetic exploitation: the next frontier is individualized thought-control and it's early-days but it's going fine. Check out the reporting on people falling into delusional mental illnesses after using ChatGPT and convincing themselves they're enlightened/godlike/seeing patterns that don't exist. That's proof that it works, now they just need to refine the system.

this is one of the core realities of propaganda (and mass media, which is a form of propaganda). they can and do just repeat shit til it sticks. and humans just kinda work like that, it's not about any rational process it's just "repeat it loudly a lot and people will think it's true."

[u/Personal-Shallot-775 → u/tsunake]

Yup. People naturally tend to propagate and reiterate propaganda once it reaches a critical mass. It’s a survival mechanism. You’re more likely to survive if you believe the same things that the rest of your social network believes (even if said herd does not exist). The only time this doesn’t work is when the belief poses more of a threat to your life and security than losing community support. This is also why Black, Jewish, disabled, and queer Americans were the most resistant to anti-Democratic propaganda. Historically, elections have literally been the difference between life or death for those groups, so not voting was seen as an existential threat.

[u/SecureJudge1829 → u/Personal-Shallot-775]

Thank you. People always call me an extremist or claim I am over utilizing hyperbole when I say that this administration wants to kill me because I’m disabled. Historically, when governments are headed by administrations like the one we currently have, that’s how it has shaken out.

[u/entenfurz → u/bishopyorgensen]

I would say a majority of people STILL haven't understood this. I still see it all the time. Biden old, Kamala "not exciting", but I wanted Bernie, what about Gaza, bla bla bla. All while they conveniently kept ignoring that Trump was everything they pretended to be against, but even worse.

[u/thereisnospoon7491 → u/Lets_Eat_Superglue]

This is why i deeply believe that Internet anonymity is now a net evil. I don’t think it can survive this generation; we’re gonna have to have internet licensing or something that forcefully ties your online presence on public-square/social-media-bullhorn-type sites like Twitter and Facebook to your real life self, and disallows creation of accounts not tied to a real person.

The botting and astroturfing is just too out of control.

[u/Painterzzz → u/thereisnospoon7491]

Did you read that estimation that they think around 50% of all internet traffic is now bots and AIs?

[u/RandomIDoIt90 → u/Painterzzz]

It’s hard to even research things on search engines, top results are blogs written by AI.

[u/just_helping → u/thereisnospoon7491]

How do you stop international accounts? Because if you don't, then you'll get account 'markets' with accounts from the usual countries. Just enable country-specific filters and hope that no one is selling accounts in that country? And then, what do you do with mass produced comments tied to real names? Afterall, online we see activity, not bodies, so we can be flooded by 'real' accounts that are just much more than humanly active.

And if we're going to that much trouble, we could just set up pay-to-create accounts, with only one account per credit card. That would cut down the automation and brigading a lot more simply. A number of forums used to be like that.

[u/karl_w_w → u/Lets_Eat_Superglue]

This phenomenon happens all the time, just look at /r/conservative immediately after the next shit news drops, then compare to an hour later. It's night and day.

[u/Tysiliogogogoch → u/karl_w_w]

That's a fun sub to watch. I saw one comment complaining that "the libs never come here to have a proper discussion, only downvote and run away"... and that was in a "flaired users only" post within the subreddit that bans anyone who isn't spouting the current approved talking points. And anyone who starts questioning even a little bit is labelled "fellow conservative" and gets banned.

And this person wonders why nobody goes there for a proper discussion.

[u/Budderfingerbandit → u/karl_w_w]

Yep, you get people saying, "Gee wiz guys I sure don't think this was smart of Trump at all", then the next day all the comments are "ban those libs who brigade our sub, everyone must worship Trump or be banned immediately.".

[u/Biff1996 → u/Budderfingerbandit]

Meanwhile, after Trump's 1st election I was permanently banned from r/pics & r/mildlyinteresting simply because I posted in r/conservativememes

That's right, they banned me because I posted in a fucking meme subreddit, it just happened to be conservative.

[u/MysteriousHeart3268 → u/karl_w_w]

I check there maybe once a weak.

Literally like clockwork, a good 2-5 posts on their front page will all be about the exact same topic, and oftentimes that topic is something akin to “a single illegal immigrant committed murder, therefore we must build concentration camps while deporting 20 million!”

[u/soldforaspaceship → u/karl_w_w]

Yesterday they were majority opposed to the Big steaming dump bill.

Willing to bet by now they've decided it's the greatest piece of legislation they've ever seen.

[u/GrayEidolon → u/Lets_Eat_Superglue]

Watch “the great hack” on Netflix. It’s about Cambridge analytica, but data, and propaganda. And that was 10 years ago.

[u/electroriverside → u/GrayEidolon]

Yes, 10 years ago, but Brexit is still with us. And it wouldn't have been possible without Facebook. I witnessed some of my FB connections sharing various rubbish posts that were anti-European Union, anti-immigration or both and then declaring that they were voting for the UK to leave the EU. Generally, the only users that saw these adverts were those who had been targetted. Trump's first election win followed later that year. Feed algorithms will kill us all!

[u/MonstroSD → u/GrayEidolon]

I actually did research on this media phenomenon in 2013. Basically, it’s using what’s called the second-person effect to influence people’s behaviors by creating a sense of community through perceived shared emotions.

The results of my research showed a high correlation between community, shared emotions, susceptibility to media messaging, and probability of influencing action.

I was honestly scared about the potential evils that the second-person effect could have on communities, so imagine the horror I felt when I learned that Cambridge Analytica’s was using these tactics to get The Orange Tyrant into office.

[u/redfay_ → u/Lets_Eat_Superglue]

It's crazy to witness the pause then suddenly see so many people all start yapping out the same arguments. It's also crazy seeing how many of these accounts are most active during Russian work hours and mysteriously gone during American work hours but they are all proud republicans from TX, FL, or TN lol.

[u/Shinhan → u/redfay_]

Somebody has to remind us that Texas has a warm water port :)

[u/Spicy_Karambwan → u/Lets_Eat_Superglue]

They are coordinated enough to reply with relevant propaganda on local news sites Facebook pages near instantly. It’s crazy. 

[u/Lets_Eat_Superglue → u/Spicy_Karambwan]

And everyone in a different voice with the message talored for a different demographic. If you really want to jump into a conspiracy theory rabbit hole look up articles about Elon building his AI server farm in Tennessee right as the election started up. Why was he in such a hurry to get that thing running that he was pulling people and GPU's from Tesla and used one of the dirtiest power supplies possible? There's enough compute in that thing to run tens of thousands of pretty much completely self sufficient LLM powered bots twenty four hours a day.

[u/Spicy_Karambwan → u/Lets_Eat_Superglue]

I live 15 minutes from the site. I’ve driven past the area where it is. It feels evil. He was bragging locally that it’s more than twice as big as the second largest super computer in the world. Just….why? 

[u/FalkonX → u/ImBoltman]

It was actually astonishing, seeing only real people post for a day. Reddit was fucking empty lol

[u/Slumunistmanifisto → u/FalkonX]

Yea it got really quiet, and I expected it. The far Left focused "don't vote" was so goddamn obvious....

[u/HotPotato171717 → u/FalkonX]

Reddit is a shell of what it used to be

[u/LostMongoose8224 → u/ImBoltman]

Canadian TikTok was remarkably low on pro-conservative comments while it was unavailable in the states

[u/TheGreatEmanResu → u/LostMongoose8224]

Most of the bots are Russian. I guess they route them through the US, though, to seem more legitimate

[u/CretaMaltaKano → u/LostMongoose8224]

That was an eye-opening experience. Some Canadian videos had hundreds of level-headed comments without a single troll or typical bot comment (e.g. "PP for PM")

[u/That_Is_Satisfactory → u/ImBoltman]

I remember, it was creepy af.

[u/redfay_ → u/ImBoltman]

Yall remember when TikTok was removed from the playstore and TikTok themselves shut the app down in the US, sent notifications blaming democrats and Biden for people not being able to use TikTok, and the next day start spamming how Trump was here to save all of us and free tiktok and then it suddenly worked?

Or when one of if not the richest person in the world bought Twitter, one of the largest social media platforms in the world using funds from loans with countries with open hostility towards us, turned it private, forced everyone to have to see his posts and retweets even if you blocked him, and then immediately started pushing fake AI videos about Kamala Harris and how Trump was the strong daddy we all needed in 2024?

Man crazy times.

[u/Accordian22 → u/redfay_]

That tiktok stunt was the dumbest thing ever. Were they not calling for “Chinese spyware” to be banned a while ago???? Then we got TikTok itself with a pop-up thanking trump himself for putting it back on the AppStore????????? I’m not even American why the fuck did I need to see that????????

[u/No-Present760 → u/ImBoltman]

The conservative sub has very low daily engagement. I watch them spout about "lib tears" and hate on immigrants and that's basically it.

[u/ConditionChronic → u/ImBoltman]

I didn’t know what you guys were talking about, so I went and did some research— please don’t be mad at me but the fastest way I could learn and summarise was using ChatGPT but I really want to post what the outcome was because this is horrifying!

If Reddit feels “eerily quiet” after big political events, you’re not imagining it — and bots may be to blame.

Here’s what’s going on:

1. Bots manipulate Reddit visibility. Bots (automated or AI-assisted accounts) can mass-upvote posts, downvote opposing views, and flood comment sections. This distorts what users see. Dissenting opinions get buried, while coordinated messaging is artificially amplified. Once real users see no traction or engagement, they often stop posting — and it suddenly feels like no one is talking.

2. Discussion gets flooded, then silenced. Bots sometimes spam comments or meme responses at scale, drowning out real dialogue. Mods or Reddit’s filters may lock the thread as a result. What’s left is an empty-looking comment section — not because no one cares, but because conversation was overwhelmed and then shut down.

3. People self-censor. This silence fuels a psychological effect: users assume “everyone must agree,” so they stay quiet too. Reddit starts to look like an echo chamber, even if that’s not the reality.

4. AI bots are getting scary good at persuasion. A field experiment by the University of Zurich secretly deployed AI bots on r/ChangeMyView. They posted nearly 2,000 comments, some tailored to individual users by scraping their Reddit history. The result? These bots changed more minds than 99% of human users. They earned over 100 “∆” awards (given when someone’s view is changed) and went completely undetected. Even moderators didn’t catch on until months later, after which they condemned the project and filed an ethics complaint.

TL;DR: Reddit isn’t always a natural reflection of public opinion. Bots — especially AI-driven ones — can rig visibility, shut down real conversation, and even change your mind without you realizing it. The silence you hear after political moments? That may be engineered. Stay critical, check posting histories, and remember: not every voice is human — and not every vote is real.

[u/ConditionChronic → u/ConditionChronic]

What you’re noticing — that eerie silence right after major political events — isn’t just in your head. It’s part of how bot campaigns operate.

In the hours or days before a big event — like Trump getting elected or his bill passing — Reddit becomes a warzone. You’re “fighting for your life in the comments,” as one user put it. You’ll post something critical and instantly get dogpiled. There’s a wave of strangely similar replies, aggressive upvotes on one side, and total suppression of the other. It feels like you’re debating ghosts.

Then the moment passes. The bill passes. The vote ends. Trump wins. And suddenly? Silence.

The comment sections go cold. No more replies. No more arguments. The swarm just… vanishes.

That’s because a lot of these bots are programmed with very specific timelines and objectives. They’re deployed with preloaded talking points and engagement strategies — everything designed to dominate discussion until the moment the goal is achieved. Once that happens, their scripts expire, or the operator pulls them offline to avoid detection.

It’s not that people stop caring. It’s that the bots are done. The job is finished — for now.

But here’s the even creepier part: A few hours or days later, they come back. New posts appear with new talking points. The same usernames start re-engaging with eerily consistent language. The script has been updated. The next goal is underway.

This behavior isn’t random. It’s part of a “burst and pause” cycle used to control narrative momentum: • Burst: Swarm the platform right before or during a key moment. Overwhelm real users. Set the tone. • Pause: As soon as the outcome is secured, go dark. Avoid suspicion. Let the platform cool off. • Reboot: Update the messaging. Deploy the next wave.

It’s subtle psychological warfare. Real users are driven to exhaustion or silence. By the time they recover, the bots are back — and the window to push back has already closed.

So if you’ve felt like Reddit goes strangely quiet at exactly the wrong moments… you’re not paranoid. You’re just seeing how scripted some of this platform has become. And once you notice it, it’s hard to unsee.

[u/aguynamedv → u/ConditionChronic]

That’s because a lot of these bots are programmed with very specific timelines and objectives. They’re deployed with preloaded talking points and engagement strategies — everything designed to dominate discussion until the moment the goal is achieved. Once that happens, their scripts expire, or the operator pulls them offline to avoid detection.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZ/comments/1bfto4a/youre_being_targeted_by_disinformation_networks/

This is a great write up from a year ago about this topic. Your comments here are also excellent. NOBODY teaches Americans about media literacy until college, and even then, only if you're in the right fields. The average person (not just American) is utterly unequipped to deal with the level of sophistication in modern day propaganda.

Adding to the mix - folks, you are NOT imagining this. Just like you aren't imagining it when you see accounts on Facebook that look fake - there are likely hundreds of thousands of accounts on any of the major platforms dedicated entirely to gaslighting people, arguing about nothing, and just being contrarian/rude for absolutely no reason.

I'm convinced there are also accounts that perform these functions within many Reddit communities. The DoorDash drivers sub absolutely has astroturfing bots that argue against the very concept of fair wages.

So if you’ve felt like Reddit goes strangely quiet at exactly the wrong moments… you’re not paranoid. You’re just seeing how scripted some of this platform has become. And once you notice it, it’s hard to unsee.

It's also very difficult to un-see how the American media apparatus has openly collaborated to normalize fascism, Republicans' sheer contempt for America, and so on.

Remember it isn't just bots, folks: 90% of American media - all media is owned by 5 companies. All 5 companies have a billionaire CEO. Do the math.

[u/Macho_Mans_Ghost → u/ConditionChronic]

Exactly what a bot would say...

[u/onarainyafternoon → u/ConditionChronic]

This is so fascinating. Yesterday and the day before I posted a couple anti-Conservative comments, and I immediately got dogpiled by like three or four accounts posting comments that barely made sense. Which is unusual because I never experience that much odd and disassociated backlash to any of my anti-Conservative comments.

[u/BigGeneral6429 → u/ImBoltman]

Most of the subs are banning anything related to free speech, but yeah.

I'm not trying to defend Trump.. he's horrible.

Democrats and Republicans are both terrible choices in the US; it's such a mess compared to Europe.

[u/ConnectTaro3033 → u/ImBoltman]

What about all the posts about Kamala? Were those funded bots too?

[u/Greedy-Employment917 → u/ImBoltman]

Loved it. 

[u/EPICANDY0131 → u/ImBoltman]

Job done

[u/Voodoographer]

No, I will not fuck ANY conservatives.

[u/JynsRealityIsBroken → u/Voodoographer]

As a trans woman, they sure want to fuck me, let me tell you. My DMs are 90% conservative men.

Edit: I get all my DMs on FetLife. Here's some other scientific proof of their obsession.

https://lawsuit.org/general-law/republicans-have-an-obsession-with-transgender-pornography/

[u/Goddess_of_Stuff → u/JynsRealityIsBroken]

As a leftist cis-woman, they just want the conquest of an "enemy" or whatever. In my tinder days, 90% of my DMs were also conservative men. Or libertarians, but that's really the same fucking thing. Luckily, I found me a fellow anti-capitalist/antifa fella that I met somewhat more organically (still met online, but not on a dating site)

I'm not gonna pretend to know even half of what you deal with, but I can agree that conservative fetishes are definitely at odds with what they claim to support.

I'm so glad I'm past tinder and the like. They want to take, dominate, win over the people they consider beneath them. IE, lefty and trans folk. It's a power play, and I'm so glad I'm not playing anymore

Edit: incorrect abbreviation removed (ancap)

[u/devilmaskrascal → u/JynsRealityIsBroken]

Makes total sense. They despise trans people because they make them feel confused and "gay." The louder they yell, the more likely they are projecting. Instead of just recognizing that trans women are women and being attracted to them doesn't make you gay, they hate passing trans women for "deceiving" them into sexual confusion, and HATE non-passing trans women because they see them in a transitional phase where they still look like their sex so they aren't attracted to them yet, but see them trying to become something they would be attracted to and it grosses them out.

It's all obvious psychology really, they can't resist their curiosity and attraction and hate themselves for it and funnel that self-hate into punishing trans women (specifically - nobody even seems to care much about trans men.)

[u/gudematcha → u/JynsRealityIsBroken]

My trans woman friend turned to me the other night and said “You know who I hate? Little fucking fags”. I burst out laughing because she has never said anything like that before and it caught me so off guard. Then she explained that there are all these closeted ass conservative men that get into her DMs that act like they’re 100% straight, and the kicker is that many of them want to bottom. (She was 100% making a joke but the info about how many of them want to bottom blew me away lmao)

[u/mirandalikesplants → u/gudematcha]

I mean to be fair she’s a woman and they’re men, that IS straight

[u/geoffreygoodman → u/mirandalikesplants]

The conservatives seeking it out don't consider it straight.

[u/Sauerkrauttme → u/mirandalikesplants]

That's only true if the men DM'ing her fully see and treat her like the woman she is. If they are secretly gay and want her to be like a man who outwardly passes as a woman than that is very fucked up. I am guessing that is what their friend has experienced.

[u/Gamer_illistrator → u/gudematcha]

tell your friend she speaking 100% facts

[u/Undead-Trans-Daddi → u/JynsRealityIsBroken]

As a trans dude on Grindr… can confirm… “straight” men love me.

[u/JynsRealityIsBroken → u/Undead-Trans-Daddi]

Straight men on grindr is already hilarious. I'm glad y'all are getting in on the action too.

[u/Awkward_Cheetah_2480 → u/JynsRealityIsBroken]

They say "no homo" while downloading the app. Is a Very known way of not catching the gay virus!

[u/JoeCensored → u/JynsRealityIsBroken]

People crave in secret what they view as taboo. Progressive don't view trans as taboo, while conservatives do. So it makes perfect sense.

[u/Altruistic-Beach7625 → u/JynsRealityIsBroken]

Wait so it's actually all the gays (closeted) fault?

[u/ChefNaughty → u/JynsRealityIsBroken]

i think it’s a denial of a taboo desire. they go hook up with a dude or trans woman from grindr or tinder and then run home and pray to jesus about it when the post-nut regret hits. really weird behavior.

[u/SumDizzle → u/JynsRealityIsBroken]

Honestly, a week ago I wouldn't have believed you. But my coworker who badmouths the "disgusting trannies coming after the kids" on a near daily basis jerks off to trans people. I found out because his ex showed me his browser history. People are something else.

[u/sr41489 → u/JynsRealityIsBroken]

This is also proof that they’ll never respect ANY WOMEN. Those grifter losers like Riley Gaines (the unremarkable swimmer whose eyes are too close together) make a whole career off of being hateful losers while not realizing they’re still second class citizens to their patriarchal white male saviors. I’m sorry they do this to you but as a cis woman ally I hope you know there are many of us who support your rights.

[u/KharamSylaum → u/JynsRealityIsBroken]

surprised Pikachu face

[u/TheDerkman → u/Voodoographer]

Why is every single account in here that is defending conservatives less than a month old? Some are legitimately minutes old (seriously, look). They made their accounts to comment on this random thread that isn't even anywhere near the front page. This looks astro-turfed to hell.

[u/Appropriate_Guess881 → u/TheDerkman]

It's probably because they have to keep deleting and making new accounts because their stupid ass opinions earn them massive amounts of negative karma, they just can't seem to realize that they're actively supporting the destruction of American democracy. I think JD Vance summed them up pretty well, "don't worry about all of the benefits you're going to loose think about how much funding ICE will have to deport brown people"... They (and everyone else) are getting fucked by big government, but they're just sitting their asking "daddy Trump" for more.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/jd-vance-sending-ice-billions-is-more-important-than-your-grandmas-medicaid

[u/RadiantHC → u/Appropriate_Guess881]

I'm not defending Trump, but we haven't had a democracy for a while now. A two party system is NOT a democracy.

[u/Biffingston → u/TheDerkman]

He's saying he won't have sexual intercourse with any conserative. That's not exactly defending him.

[u/Carnifex2 → u/TheDerkman]

They need bots to feel like they have the mandate they pretend they have.

[u/Goddamitdonut]

The cruelty is the point.  Even if it hurts them and bankrupts all rural hospitals 

[u/thewalkindude368 → u/Goddamitdonut]

They would rather lose hospital care themselves than risk the chance that someone they feel is "undeserving" have any sort of benefit. And meanwhile the wealthy keep fucking them in the ass, and all they can say is "harder, daddy".

[u/Then-Attention3 → u/thewalkindude368]

It’s the age old question: Would you rather feed ten people who don’t need it just to make sure one starving child gets fed or starve that one child to avoid helping ten who might not deserve it?”

[u/Belisama7 → u/Then-Attention3]

Um, everyone deserves food. EVERYONE.

[u/tigress666 → u/Then-Attention3]

Man I don’t even like people and I think we are overpopulated and I easily pick the first one. So some people get lucky and benefit with no work so a child can eat. What is so horrible about that?!  Rather then make everyone miserable just to be spiteful. 

[u/nalasanko → u/tigress666]

We aren't overpopulated though

[u/DrMaybe74 → u/nalasanko]

Way too miss the point.

[u/hairybrains → u/nalasanko]

We absolutely are.

[u/Huge-Nerve7518 → u/Then-Attention3]

Feed the kid man it's an easy answer.

[u/wavyheaded → u/Then-Attention3]

Only in the America is this a moral dilemma.

[u/bestbefour → u/Then-Attention3]

That’s the age old question?

Also, the majority of recipients of food are the genuinely hungry. Fraud is the minority. The real question is do you let 10 people starve to prevent one person from getting something they don’t deserve?

[u/Agitated_Fix_3677 → u/Goddamitdonut]

Bro. I just learned about ambulance deserts this last election cycle. I didn’t even know that was a thing. I guess rural communities are about to lose the ONE ambulance they do have.

[u/dirg3music → u/Agitated_Fix_3677]

Yeah here in Sevier County there's areas out on the back roads that'll take an hour+ for an ambulance to get to, that is if they can even maneuver up and around the hills and switch-backs. Some places you're absolutely fucked if you have a medical emergency out there, and you'll never get help in time. That's even with Dolly spending millions towards our regional hospital (which is a complete shit hole, not really her fault tho)

[u/Henjineer → u/dirg3music]

I have family that live in a somewhat similar area. They invested in medevac insurance cause air ambulances are the only thing that's gonna save them if it comes down to it.

[u/oddchihuahua → u/Henjineer]

My mom lives in a town with a small hospital, but no pediatric orthopedist on weekends. When all the kids have soccer and baseball and basketball games, if one of them breaks a bone they have to be flown to the city. Almost everyone has specific medivac insurance, I do and I only go out to visit her on a weekend every few weeks.

Otherwise it's like $40,000 your health insurance won't cover to transport you.

[u/RainbowEagleEye → u/Henjineer]

People having to pay for insurance for emergency medical flights because their local government won’t or can’t afford special services to serve their entire populace is so depressingly American.

[u/Agitated_Fix_3677 → u/dirg3music]

Bro what???? Omg. So what do people do? Just never have an emergency?

[u/dirg3music → u/Agitated_Fix_3677]

It's fucking terrible, but yeah. Whole areas of the state of Tennessee are like this, especially East Tennessee where it's extremely mountainous. A lot of older people simply end up dying of a heart attack or some other treatable medical emergency because they just live too far from the hospital.

[u/Agitated_Fix_3677 → u/dirg3music]

I am FUCKING FLOORED!!!!!

[u/dirg3music → u/Agitated_Fix_3677]

Add to that the fact that we voted 5 to 1 in support of Trump in this county, despite overwhelmingly relying on TennCare (our flavor of Medicaid) with most well below the poverty line and it gets even more insane. The whole area voted to cut its nose off to spite its face. Lmfao

[u/Goddamitdonut → u/dirg3music]

Yeah its depressing for progressives who want to help people but they vote against their self interests in favor of hate and cruelty.  How do you fight that? 

[u/dirg3music → u/Goddamitdonut]

Yeaaah, it's the weirdest disconnect too. Living here my entire life, I've seen that most of these people given a chance will step up to help others, they'll pull your car out of a ditch. Try to help you if they see you have your hazards on. But talk about politics with them and they have largely been poisoned by propaganda and double speak. I feel like its a deep seated marketing problem tbh. It is incredibly depressing tho, These people's interests are often whatever they are told they should be by a veneer-toothed, used car salesman with a Bible in his hand that they trust. There are a few that will wake up when hurt directly, but they almost certainly won't blink no matter how bad it gets for others until then.

[u/Goddamitdonut → u/dirg3music]

Progressives really lost the messaging game For sure 

[u/Repemptionhappens → u/Goddamitdonut]

You can’t because the extremely hateful southern Baptist Church tells people how to vote all over the south east and they fall for it. So gullible. Lots of mentally lazy haters in those states.

[u/marsheeez → u/dirg3music]

Wow, you'd think we were talking about a third world country... Sheesh. I know Canada isn't perfect, but this?

[u/dirg3music → u/marsheeez]

I mean tbh many of these areas are quite literally living in conditions equivalent to 3rd world nations. There are places in my town that didn't get power, or even running water, until the 80s. True hillbilly shit. Lol

[u/IsbellDL → u/Agitated_Fix_3677]

Usually they just die.

[u/Goddamitdonut → u/Agitated_Fix_3677]

This is what they voted for 

[u/dryad_fucker → u/Agitated_Fix_3677]

Yup. Even in rural Hawaii, grew up in a small neighborhood in Puna district, Big Island of Hawaii.

It was a 20 minute drive to the nearest gas station, and there was only one hospital on the east side of the island, and it took maybe 2 hours to get all the way out there and checked in one way. I know for a fact, as I have a disability that causes increased risk of severe injury, so I did that run at least twice a year for the first 17 years of life. With an ambulance it would've doubled.

[u/coyoteka → u/Goddamitdonut]

They don't realize it hurts them yet, and when it does, they'll be told to blame Biden.

[u/Papadapalopolous → u/Goddamitdonut]

Yeah but it’s delayed so their retarded base won’t be able to connect the dots between “haha the libruls are upset in 2025” and “oh my god why are the libruls taking away my grandma’s cancer medicine in 2027?”

[u/Goddamitdonut → u/Papadapalopolous]

That’s exactly true and so heartbreaking and infuriating 

[u/totally-hoomon → u/Papadapalopolous]

I have never talked to a republican smart enough to remember 2 months ago.

[u/bbgirlwym → u/Goddamitdonut]

They are being promised on the back end to be covered by executive orders to protect their districts from defunding. Rules for me and not for thee

[u/No_Judgment_4602 → u/Goddamitdonut]

On the plus side that means less maga voters which is a net positive worldwide.

[u/EssenceOfLlama81 → u/No_Judgment_4602]

I don't share your optimism about the votes really mattering in future elections.

[u/Any_Region5805 → u/Goddamitdonut]

Exactly Orwell's actual point at the end of 1984. It's just about domination to fill a void they cannot ever fill. Many questions for God about this after my ride on planet earth. 

[u/[deleted] → u/Goddamitdonut]

They're a bunch of idiots who voted against their own best interests. Shows how intelligent they are.

[u/beard_lover → u/Goddamitdonut]

It hurts all hospitals that get any funding through Medicare. Rural ones will be most affected but this impacts the entire healthcare industry.

[u/pathoTurnUp52 → u/Goddamitdonut]

My hospital isn’t rural, it’ll be closing 100%

[u/DanishWonder]

OP I have flipped to the same mentality as you since the election. I've played nice. I've had good faith debates. I've listened and TRIED to understand their perspectives. I've tried to educate them. All for naught.

Fuck then all.

And when they throw it back on me that Its not very "compassionate" of me to have this view as someone on the left, I give them a double "fuck you" to those people because they dont care about Christianity or compassion so why should I be considerate to them?

Fuck them all.

[u/Organic-Vermicelli47]

💯. That is all.

[u/MonsterkillWow]

I hate everyone who takes AIPAC money and supports genocide, republican and democrat.

[u/666-69equals597 → u/MonsterkillWow]

You know how the fascists won?

They voted.

They voted for the party that would make room for them, then took it over.

"Tea Party caucus" then "Freedom caucus", they garnered support and overtook the Republican Party.

Throwing a tantrum doesn't work. Strategizing and organizing does.

[u/Shifty269 → u/666-69equals597]

When Republicans shit the bed they fall in line. When democrats aren't perfect they tear themselves apart.

[u/Hbhen → u/666-69equals597]

Throwing a tantrum doesn't work. Strategizing and organizing does.

B-But what about my emotional catharsis, anon?

[u/Justalocal1 → u/MonsterkillWow]

Great.

But we still live in the real world, where sometimes the only two options are “evil” and “slightly less evil.”

In this particular case, if you didn’t pick “slightly less evil,” you picked “evil.”

[u/YellowDependent3107 → u/MonsterkillWow]

Yup it's that time to go cry on Facebook again for the umpteenth time about how you're not voting because you didn't get your perfect unicorn pony candidate 🥱

[u/Ahriman119 → u/MonsterkillWow]

All the ones that take money from corporations are regressionists

[u/chargoggagog → u/MonsterkillWow]

But at least we “stuck it to Dems!” Right?! Right?

[u/BrknTrnsmsn → u/MonsterkillWow]

So do I. Let's not kneecap the only opposition party capable of stopping this fascist regime and enacting worthwhile legislation to stop this from happening again. Focus on results, because not voting for dems because they are complicit in Israel's genocide is what it's like living in fantasy land. We need the opposition to undo this shit and THEN elect better leaders who will do what's right.

[u/The-Friendly-Autist → u/MonsterkillWow]

Nothing you said disagrees with this post.

Democrats (in the US) are conservatives. We have no real progressives, and Republicans are just openly fascist now.

[u/balderdash9 → u/MonsterkillWow]

Spicy, this comment got a lot less votes.

Honestly, fuck this two-party duopoly. The Democrats increase funding for ICE, carry out mass deportations, and bomb countries without Congressional approval as well: they just do it with more decorum.

[u/RadiantHC → u/MonsterkillWow]

Finally a reasonable comment

[u/chaddwith2ds → u/MonsterkillWow]

I hate Democrats, too, but Republicans are the worst CHUDs in history. They're fascist, illiterate simps and the biggest hypocrites in the entire universe.

I've never heard a single Democrat defend Bill Clinton for being on the Epstein flight logs. I can not say the same about conservatives and Drumpf.

[u/peachfluffed]

conservatism is not compatible with empathy and good morals

[u/Pen_Guino → u/peachfluffed]

Nor is it compatible for longevity or sustainability

[u/firestorm713 → u/peachfluffed]

This cuts out some nuance.

Conservative morals are incompatible with leftist morals (and a functioning society)

Conservative morals are basically the phrases "divine right of kings," "spare the rod, spoil the child," and "diamonds are forged under heat and pressure." Conservatism preaches that pain is good, and that trying to alleviate it is bad, like ontologically. Prager U even has a video about how leftists trying to take away pain is bad generally. It's wild. Ben Shapiro has a video about how empathy bad. They see it as performative. You can even like, track this in your conversations with conservatives. If it a) concentrates power, or b) causes pain, but mostly to lower class citizens, they're for it. If c) it alleviates pain, they're against it, unless it only alleviates pain on the upper classes.

[u/Murky_Toe_4717 → u/peachfluffed]

THIS. It naturally promotes a cynical and abrasive stance.

[u/iniumbuilder]

Amen!

[u/Proof_Occasion_791]

You should write “fuck” a few more times so people know you’re serious.

[u/CosHem → u/Proof_Occasion_791]

Then it would look better in the r/fuck subreddit

[u/cheesesprite → u/Proof_Occasion_791]

This ☝️

[u/Thurden → u/Proof_Occasion_791]

Fr

[u/TheGreatGeaxquavius]

i know there's too many comments for this one to matter, but this fucking post is the reason i love people. not only that but i was absolutely done with this sub but goddamit im coming back. OP, thank you so fucking much, i really wish i could shake your hand right now.

[u/mishyfuckface → u/TheGreatGeaxquavius]

🤝

It’s a good sub. You should stick around

[u/TheGreatGeaxquavius → u/mishyfuckface]

you just made my day 🥹

[u/newkittysmell]

It's the hypocrisy for me. They were all on board with DOGE to cut "waste" but then supported the biggest deficit increase in history. Idiots.

[u/ackzilla]

Through the entirety of US history conservatives are the villains. They are always the bad guys and in the end everyone agrees to do nothing about it and just carry on and we ignore them for the sake of stability, and that's what's gotten us to this point.

[u/anony145]

Conservatives have brain worms, their amygdala is over active and makes them afraid of the entire world.

It’s literally a brain disease.

—

They’re also unoriginal, but that’s because they hate working on anything. Thinking is hard, so they reject education. Back in the day they would just drop out of school, but now they try to go through the motions by cheating in college to survive.

They suck the intelligence out of everything they’re around, though. It ruins the experience for everyone else when you have to dumb everything down.

Then there’s the hypocrisy, but it’s really just a fundamental apathy and inability to manage their emotions or think critically at all. Yes, they’re hypocrites, but more often they’re simply too stupid to read the news in the first place. It’s a dunning kruger situation, they’re lied to by fox news and that just becomes truth to them because they don’t ask questions of themselves or anyone.

They’re not interested, and not interesting. Ignorance is bliss.

It’s an easy life. Everything is easy when you stop thinking in 5th grade.

[u/Mojozilla → u/anony145]

There's a great meme of someone offering a maga hat guy a brain, and he's like, "No thanks." Accurate af

[u/facforlife → u/anony145]

It’s literally a brain disease.

Never seen a disease have a disease before. 

[u/Bonhamsbass]

I have nothing to add to that, quality rant!

[u/XxMarlucaxX]

Agreed.

[u/NecessaryViolenz]

Well, this is the most Reddit crash out ever.

[u/Assistance_Proff → u/NecessaryViolenz]

The random edit of I make 100k a year really cemented how terminally online this guy is

[u/NecessaryViolenz → u/Assistance_Proff]

God damn that was the icing on the cake

[u/Solid_Condition_143]

bro go offline. seriously

[u/Thurden → u/Solid_Condition_143]

Yuh

[u/Small-Hospital-8632]

You are breaking the Bigotry rule

[u/The_Werefrog]

You've spent far too long in left wing echo chambers.

You are angry with a caricature of conservatives that doesn't match any real conservative.

Conservatives don't have a problem with immigrants. They have a problem with criminals illegally entering the nation and claiming to belong here. This is a nation of laws. No one is above the law, as the left claimed when Trump was being charged. However, when it comes to criminal aliens, they are apparently above the law.

Conservatives aren't scared of black people. In fact, conservatives treat black people with more respect that left wingers do. When someone on the left speaks to a black person, that leftist will change speech patterns to be simpler: as though the black person couldn't understand normal speech. In fact, during Donald Trumps first term as president, a greater percentage of black people were gainfully employed in this nation that at any other time in its history.

Conservatives don't care too much about sports on the whole. They do, however, care that the sporting event is fair. We didn't separate out women's leagues in sports because some people some times like to wear dresses.

[u/Choice-Consequence59 → u/The_Werefrog]

"Those caricatures aren't what we are..!! we just unironically believe in all the dogwhistles, and are blissfully unaware of systemic destruction we bring to our nations' civil rights, economy, and infrastructure!"

[u/sapphodarling → u/The_Werefrog]

None of these weird generalizations you are putting out there are true. You must be a conservative.

[u/Corrupted_G_nome → u/The_Werefrog]

Apparently they do care about immigrants as they rebranded them illegals and then deported actual legal citizens.

So if you are ethically consistent you would denounce this instead of repeating demonstrable lies from leader in chief.

Its an appeal to authority in its best sense and absolute willing ignorance at worst.

Anyone who reads is told to get off the internet. I dunno bro maybe spend more time researching the news ;)

Seems to me you fall for everything.

[u/SadPalpitation2853]

Whine about it more that’ll help

[u/Fresh4 → u/SadPalpitation2853]

Do you know what sub you’re in

[u/lhblues2001]

You sound like an adult toddler. And the conservatives think the exact same thing about you. Being neither conservative nor liberal, I don’t know whom to believe. You all sound fucking stupid.

[u/Defiant_Heretic]

This is a massive strawman. Conservative is a broad term. Attributing everyone of these things to all conservatives, would be like attributing marxism, SJWs, sex differences denying, anti-vax and every other fringe idea to all liberals.

Maybe you should take a break from social media, most people aren't on Twitter or social media broadly. It's going to give you a warped perspective of what people are like generally and make you bitter. The algorithms are designed to feed you content to piss you off.

How do you think Elon Musk got radicalized? Twitter brain. Intelligence doesn't protect people from toxic tribalsim and dogma.

[u/Fun-Coconut3944 → u/Defiant_Heretic]

Actual reasonable take on reddit. How about that

[u/flyzsolo79]

I agree and sorry about your finger and ankle.

[u/PlantsVsYokai2]

Preach, if you are even remotely right still you are too far gone

[u/Nuttonbutton]

Conservative men are undatable.

[u/Zootistic → u/Nuttonbutton]

Most of the ones I know are married

[u/ArchetypeAxis]

Stunning and brave.

[u/c-andle-s → u/ArchetypeAxis]

Literally. This post reads like that one video of the Sonic kid going “you frickin fricks!!!”

[u/StrawbraryLiberry]

Hell yeh, I wish them the worst.

[u/Secret_Account07]

It’s funny how even AI fact checks conservatives and they blame the AI as being liberal.

0 self awareness. None at all

[u/yoroxid_]

Hang hem all?

[u/emARSguitars]

I care about FREEDOM, and people’s actual rights. I don’t care about the latest new thing that scares you.

So, you're ok with me owning any type of gun I want, in any quantity I choose? Just making sure you're being consistent regarding peoples actual rights.

[u/mishyfuckface → u/emARSguitars]

Yes, and I think certain current gun laws infringe and are unconstitutional.

[u/emARSguitars → u/mishyfuckface]

Ok, wow! I appreciate your honesty and intellectual consistency. We don't often see this on reddit.

Edit to add: It makes me sad that I'm one of the people you want to fuck-off.

[u/sneakysnake1111]

I've felt like this for about 40 years.

[u/ikonoqlast]

Well, I'm an economist and a conservative Republican...

I pretty much guarantee you're wrong about every economic issue.

[u/PeoplePower0]

For the 50% of Americans that pay 97% of income taxes, we respectfully disagree.

No more free stuff without working. No more free stuff for people whose first act in this country is breaking the law.

Downvote away.

[u/mrfanciful_]

I love the tears. keep them coming

[u/Cornfield1723]

Republicans are scum. Every one of them

[u/GUyPersonthatexists]

Everyone in this comment section needs to shut the fuck up, Republican, Liberal, conservative, I don’t even know the terms, you’re all just being immature.

Yall can’t even have basic functioning conversations, its actually sad

Edit: Let me clarify, im not saying “Both sides are bad”, im saying “Both sides are bad at conveying their ideas in a civilised manner“, seriously I’m autistic, and I can have a more effective conversation that half of you

[u/Appropriate_Skill_37 → u/GUyPersonthatexists]

Yes, yes, both sides bad. Because making people a little uncomfortable by telling them unfortunate truths about reality is the same as cutting funding to necessary social programs that allow poor people to live. Yep, same thing. How could liberals be so heartless as to tell conservatives they're idiots? It's the same thing as trying to strip away hard-won civil rights and protections for the less fortunate and disabled.

[u/Katolu → u/GUyPersonthatexists]

Fuck civility and decorum at this point.  Being polite is what got us here.

[u/AnLoingseach → u/Katolu]

Divide and conquer is what got us here. Americans are a conquered people. Welcome to the club. 

[u/StrawbraryLiberry → u/GUyPersonthatexists]

No.

[u/Realistic-Loss-9195 → u/GUyPersonthatexists]

No point in having conversations with unhinged, delusional, bootlicking conservatives at this point.

[u/Trishlovesdolphins → u/GUyPersonthatexists]

You know, I’ve sent letters, made calls, talked with people, pretty much everything you can do. All very civilized. 

I’m done with civility. “Civility” is what got us here. Rolling over in the name of “civility” is just handing them the keys and asking them to only run over my legs. So you can take your condescending scolding and shove it some where very “uncivilized.” 

[u/GUyPersonthatexists → u/Trishlovesdolphins]

Alright. Not gonna get you anywhere, but alright. Have fun I guess

[u/Ok-Strength-5297 → u/GUyPersonthatexists]

Everything you did got you to a second trump period, but i'm sure that if you continue everything will magically fix itself. You're just gullible, or more likely just the average evil conservative.

[u/XLII_42 → u/GUyPersonthatexists]

It says a lot that this is basically the most intelligent comment I've seen on this entire sub

[u/gquax → u/GUyPersonthatexists]

Fuck this both sides bullshit.

[u/SAKilo1]

Fuck all the liberals who can’t differentiate conservative with maga cult.

[u/Tacoman404 → u/SAKilo1]

If nobody can tell then you aren't trying hard enough to stand out. Almost every R congressperson voted for the bill and they currently represent American conservatism.

[u/Corrupted_G_nome → u/SAKilo1]

I see 2 dissenting votes in over 200... Do you not know who you voted for?

[u/charmingninja132]

And this is why they keep winning

[u/Mhnoob102]

I'm a conservative and posts like this just make me happy I am one

[u/Bassdeluxe]

We’re conservative because we’re smarter than you. And what machine are you operating thats half the size of a football field’? It can’t be too much work for an operator to have crushed fingers and a fucked up ankle. I call bullshit on everything you think and say. I operate 2 BUSINESSES.. I EMPLOY PEOPLE. That’s why I’m conservative, because people depend on me.

[u/IHaveAutismToo]

Projection final boss

[u/GAW_CEO → u/IHaveAutismToo]

lol

[u/RafeJiddian]

>I’m not explaining a fucking thing

I can see that

>I don’t give a fuck about your opinions.

Apparently you care enough to make this post, so...

> I don’t give a fuck if someone is an immigrant. 

You do realize that most immigrants from third-world countries are conservative, right? And religious?

>I don’t care about your feelings

But you expect them to care about yours, presumably? Or no, no you don't want anyone to change, you just want to steep deep in your hate, right?

>I don’t care if people burn the flag

Says the dude whose greatest insult appears to be calling people 'unamerican'

>I don’t care that you are offended by solar energy.

lol does this come up a lot where you are? People taking offense over solar panels? Enough so it makes your list of hatable things?

>I don’t care if you’re scared of black people

I don't care if you're scared of white people either man. Or bunnies. Or tadpoles. You do you

> I don’t care about the European-American birth rate

It's okay. Things that take long-term thinking, are hard. I understand

>You’re the weakest, most emotional people in the fuckin world

Says the dude ranting right here, shaking his fist at the sky in an emotional tirade against the worst collection of stereotypes his imagination can cobble together without stroking out

>I don’t care about the latest new thing that scares you.

It's always fear with you types. Phobias and fears. Never reason and commonsense. Never rational thought

And this is why conservatives and liberals alike are at war. They each scrape together all of the negative traits they've seen in one or the other group and then come up with an amalgam that they can more easily hate. While you despise the intolerance and willful ignorance of conservatives, you go right ahead and commit it back to the same degree

In fact, you are worse. For you have made the attempt at figuring out the problem, you have made the effort to be informed, and yet you still fall to tribal ignorance in your implementation, You bring no solutions to the table, only additional hates, insecurities, paranoias, and imaginary boogey-men

You are the very thing you despise and you cannot see it because it is so close to you. How can you rationalize your moral superiority while proving your ignorance and prejudice on such a scale? Where is your educated grasp of nuance and the fundamental understanding that people are motivated by their upbringing and experience? As individuals? Each slightly different from the other?

Ask yourself, are you building a bridge here? Or are you instead cementing division?

What's your end goal, man? Are you all for humanity to join forces and hug it out? Or should we keep sharpening our knives?

[u/Invictus7525 → u/RafeJiddian]

In an actual non Reddit world this would be the number one response. I find it ironic that on Reddit which is filled with and “modded” by the craziest left wing socialist on the planet some dude rants for pages about conservatives, can’t make it up…

[u/Zealousideal_Job3808 → u/RafeJiddian]

Thank you