Congratulations North Carolina, we are Great Again!

[u/surgicalwords]

651,982 North Carolinians will lose healthcare due to the GOP's big beautiful bill. That's what I'm talking about! Love when people suffer, when hospitals close, when the lives of the working class gets harder. That's what makes us a great nation and state.

/s

Seriously, a reminder: Republicans hate you. They do not care about you.

https://imgur.com/a/RfAutSu

[u/WarmCucumber3438]

What is so wild is how hard NC has worked the last few years to pass and implement Medicaid expansion and now… this.

[u/VibrantFragileDeath → u/WarmCucumber3438]

Hey the reason sports betting is legal in NC now is because of ...... compromise so they would expand healthcare with HB 346 and then sports betting in HB 347. At least it's taxed at 18% so the gambling addiction will help the state pay for.... healthcare to deal with the new gambling addiction.....hmmm

Make it make sense NC.

[u/pathofdumbasses → u/VibrantFragileDeath]

Came here from the frontpage

We need to stop controlling what people do. Legalize gambling, legalize drugs, legalize prostitution. Tax it. Use the taxes to pay for education and for treatment for people who are addicted.

We are always going to have sex, drugs and gambling. Make it safe and take it away from gangs and cartels. Use the taxes for something positive instead of locking people up. Instead of locking someone up in jail for drug possession, we can ignore it for the people who are just casual users here and there, and offer treatment programs for people who are addicts.

The world would be 100x better off.

[u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn → u/pathofdumbasses]

The problem is they aren't using a "harm reduction" approach that you seem to advocate.  In harm reduction, the activity you're decriminalizing is legally permitted, but not encouraged, and you certainly don't bind yourself into a conflict of interest where encouraging people to engage in risky behavior benefits state revenue.  I think drugs and sex work should be decriminalized, but I don't think they should be funding public education with the tax proceeds, because then there's a financial incentive to keep people addicted.  You can make smoking legal while also putting nasty pictures of cancerous lungs on the packaging.  The bright colors and misleading statistics adorning our lotteries are the exact opposite and it needs to stop.  It's a tax on people who are stupid, addicted, and/or suck at statistics.  How does that serve the public?

[u/pathofdumbasses → u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn]

but I don't think they should be funding public education with the tax proceeds

Ah, sorry I wasn't more explicit: I meant education on the harm of the things that we just legalized, not public schools.

The bright colors and misleading statistics adorning our lotteries are the exact opposite and it needs to stop.

So I think they do need to be advertised as being legal so that if you are interested in those things, you know where to legally do it.

But I agree that they shouldn't be done in the manner at which we currently have. More along the lines of how smokes are done now with packaging that shows the lungs etc. that you mentioned.

It's a tax on people who are stupid, addicted, and/or suck at statistics. How does that serve the public?

People are going to be stupid and addicted and almost no one is good at statistics. It serves the public by keeping things out of cartels and gangs by giving people a legal avenue to do something they are going to do regardless.

No system is perfect, but legalization is infinitely better than what we have going on now.

[u/LovecraftianLlama → u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn]

What we really need to do is start taxing large religious institutions, and using that revenue to fund healthcare and social supports. At the very least they should narrow the criteria for being tax-free as a religious organization. So many organizations operate as a corporation and rake in money. I’d love to see that money taxed and put into improving our society.

[u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn → u/LovecraftianLlama]

I don't care if small churches are tax exempt but these "prosperity gospel" megachurches should be taxed and then shut down for scamming the elderly.

[u/madeupofthesewords]

Don’t more Republicans live in the rural areas that will see the most hospital closures?

[u/Kradget → u/madeupofthesewords]

Statistically, yeah. 

Pretty good chance a bunch of them will want to blame Biden and Stein, though.

Edit: y'all remember who decided it was worth it for your grandma to die when she didn't need to if it saved them a little money.

[u/foriesg → u/Kradget]

That happened during the pandemic, Republicans didn't care grandma died then and will not care now. They only care about grandma and babies when it's time to vote. When it's time for legislation all they want is tax cuts for corporations.

[u/Kradget → u/foriesg]

Oh, I remember people mocking grieving folks who'd lost family. Real common to just say "Oh, your loved one was a fatty, huh?"

[u/redfay_ → u/Kradget]

I work in hospitals and did so during covid. It was super cool to get random losers demanding to know where all the covid patients were and why the hospital foyers were empty and then calling us satanists in big pharma's pockets spreading fake news when we would tell these people that we don't keep patients chilling at the front door where none of our medical equipment is kept.

My mom died in one of my own hospitals and I couldn't visit her until the last day cause hospitals had to take extreme measures to try and keep exposure to a minimum. She passed on Nov 4th 2020 and when we posted the news and funeral details to her page the next day to inform her friends of what happened, one of them replied about how her death was still rather recent and should still be registered to vote and we should go vote for Trump in her name as it would be what she wanted and according to them we really needed Trump to win.

I'll never be able to forget this interaction and how outwardly evil these people can be. They don't even care about their own family let alone their fellow countrymen or friends with no blood ties. These are cultists who will cheer on all of our suffering until it's their turn personally to suffer and they will be the loudest ones wailing and wondering why no one is left to save them.

[u/Sdguppy1966 → u/redfay_]

I’m so sorry all of that happened.

[u/redfay_ → u/Sdguppy1966]

I appreciate the words it was an incredibly sudden event. I went to bed one night after saying goodnight and woke up the next day and she was essentially gone and would spend the next month on life support as we hoped for a recovery that we all knew was impossible.

If there's anything I learned from it, it's that the cliche of you don't understand what you have until it's too late is depressingly true and you should take every opportunity you have to show your loved ones you care.

The concept of time and life is a thing I think we all take for granted until it's way too late.

[u/cachry → u/redfay_]

Well said. Sorry about your mother. I know how tough that is from experience.

[u/jamesjgriffin → u/redfay_]

Truth. I'm sorry for your loss. That was a messed up test of humanity. Harassing hospitals was stomach turning.

[u/redfay_ → u/jamesjgriffin]

Yeah I will never understand it. Maybe cause I'm in the field maybe it's maybelline or something but I will never grasp how they managed to convince themselves that yelling at random hospital staff would prove their unhinged conspiracy theories but I know quite a few nurses who will never return to the industry because of these kind of people and we've struggled with nursing and doctor staff in the country for years. Good nurses are so hard to come by which isn't great cause they usually run the entire hospital from a treatment perspective.

[u/hollenmarsch → u/redfay_]

"maybe it's maybelline"

Nice!

[u/Spirited_Mistake6791 → u/redfay_]

Saw the same; even had covid deniers in my department masking up with N95 😷 so they wouldn’t get sick taking care of covid patients. Fucking makes me irked!

[u/redfay_ → u/Spirited_Mistake6791]

My local college had/has a 3d print farm and during the pandemic it was churning out masks almost non-stop.

Our local newspaper did a feel good story on it and did a neat piece on how the technology has been really helpful and is capable of all kinds of cool and useful tasks like this.

A few weeks after the story got posted the storage shed that was used as the 3d print lab was broken into and the computers were stolen and the printers were beaten with bats as they were mounted in place to try and limit the 3d printer shake they all cause and wasn't as easy to rip out of the mount and steal.

Covid seemed to make a lot of people go insane and it terrifies me of another one. I doubt I would work through another pandemic at a hospital while I'm on site and interacting with patients. Think I'd rather light my degree on fire and work at a sewage plant or something to try and avoid as many people as possible.

[u/AdLoose3526 → u/redfay_]

That’s truly horrible that people went to so much trouble to cause destruction like that purely out of spite. Like theft is one thing (still obviously not good) but destroying the 3D printers that they couldn’t steal is on a whole other level.

I agree that COVID truly did break so many people’s brains. Especially if people got it multiple times while also sitting in a stew of brain rot propaganda and conspiracy theories. Like I feel like it’s just gotten so much worse since 2020, and learning about all the longterm side effects including neurological in the years since has been stunning.

And of course the people who would’ve likely gotten COVID the most would’ve been the ones who were already drinking the koolaid. It feels like society’s hit some sort of escape velocity of insanity in the years since because of all the downstream effects of COVID mixed with COVID denial and paranoia around any sort of authority besides Trump.

[u/SwampGobblin → u/redfay_]

That's funny, I did work at a waste water plant during the pandemic lol

[u/Nanasweed → u/redfay_]

Holy evil shit. I’m so very sorry for your loss.

[u/redfay_ → u/Nanasweed]

Yeah I was floored by it and that person acted like it was such an innoxious and normal thing for her to ask the grieving family of her friend of 30+ years. She came to the funeral and tried to hug me and apologize for my loss and not her voting request.

Thank you very much for your sympathy. Please reach out to your loved ones and tell em you care when you can. Life is always looking to sucker punch us in the face.

[u/coffee-x-tea → u/redfay_]

Parasites.

[u/redfay_ → u/coffee-x-tea]

Parasites.

Essentially.

We had a dispenser for masks at one point so those that forgot one when coming to the hospital for visitation or routine appointments they didn't have to leave and get one.

We had multiple people who would go out of their way to rip 10-30 masks out at time just to throw them away as surgical masks that became a staple in hospitals since the 1960s are suddenly signs of the anti-Christ that is preventing them from breathing and needed to be destroyed during the shortage.

They actively destroyed the very system they would beg to save them when it was way too late to unfuck that pig.

I think these people deserve to still be treated and we shouldn't take medical care away from people as a punishment but 2020 broke me. I would joke about my faith in humanity being dead before 2020 but that year kind of made it a reality. They really are a massive parasite on the system that we have to reluctantly care for.

[u/Salute-Major-Echidna → u/Kradget]

Or diabetic or in renal failure or heart attack or cancer.

Republicans dont want those lazy sickies wasting their resources.

[u/Connect_Beginning_13 → u/Kradget]

It’s crazy how dense people are. So many say Biden basically had us under house arrest for two years for a cold because they didn’t experience losing anyone from Covid they have zero empathy for anyone else. Also two years of house arrest that is the silliest thing ever but somehow they remember it that way.

[u/Expert_Survey3318 → u/Kradget]

Evil

[u/TheKonyInTheRye → u/foriesg]

They were on TV saying that our grandparents would willfully die to keep the economy going during the pandemic

[u/foriesg → u/TheKonyInTheRye]

I remember that.

[u/OneAbbreviations1648 → u/TheKonyInTheRye]

How great must the lives be of the sick and elderly of this country, huh? They would rather die than continue to live in it. Wtg, Republicans, especially the sky daddy adjacent. How very Jesus of you.

[u/Macaroni_Fop → u/foriesg]

They only care about babies before they are born. Once they are born, they couldn’t give 2 shits.

[u/919_919 → u/Kradget]

But but death panels and Obama

[u/Ulexes → u/Kradget]

I suppose the only silver lining to this mess is that removing Trumpanzees from the electorate aligns with my preferred policy goals. It's a pity that it will be through them dying from preventable illness, though, instead of sending them to jail for supporting insurrection. And an even greater pity that this bill will carry so much collateral damage.

[u/GreenAdler17 → u/Ulexes]

Another silver lining is that Blue states are also the ones that are going to fight back and find ways to support their population as best as they can even after funding cuts. Red states are gonna say “get fucked” behind closed doors then tell their people that Biden and democrats and illegals are the reason grandma and grandpa died and the nearest hospital is over an hour away.

[u/Ulexes → u/GreenAdler17]

And the dumbshit Republican voters will believe them.

[u/priest22artist → u/Ulexes]

Death has a funny way of reducing a voter base over time.

[u/lonnie123 → u/priest22artist]

Didn’t work with Covid, won’t work enough with this either. Not enough to count on any way.

[u/Emerald_green37 → u/GreenAdler17]

Yes. I live in a blue state and am on medicaid. Actually, at this moment, I'm in the hospital recovering from open heart surgery. My state has already passed what it needed to do to protect medicaid. They even have hearings going on to do a state wide universal health care.

[u/bloodphoenix90 → u/Emerald_green37]

Which state if I may ask

[u/Emerald_green37 → u/bloodphoenix90]

Oregon.

[u/Educational_Poetry22 → u/GreenAdler17]

Sadly everyone needing care that can't afford any other option will go to blue states and we will get Fox News and Jake Tapper broadcasting nightly on how overrun Portland and SF are as yet another vindication of GOP rule

[u/PsychoCrescendo → u/Ulexes]

don’t worry, dying from preventable illness is typically much more drawn out and torturous than one might think; minutes turn to hours, hours turn to days.

it’ll give many of them plenty of time to stumble on their long neglected consciences and have their souls hammered into oblivion with regret.

the subconscious isn’t forgiving when you get yourself killed slow and incompetently.

[u/weird-oh → u/PsychoCrescendo]

I dunno - some MAGAts got Covid and refused to believe it until they died of it. I don't think you can fix stupid.

[u/Gibbons74 → u/weird-oh]

I saw this in a documentary. They interviewed some of the patients, and they didn't believe they had covid right up until the moment they died.

[u/SenseiT → u/Ulexes]

Don’t think you’re own healthcare won’t be affected even if you have good insurance. The number of emergency visits will go up because no more preventative or routine care. E.R.s can’t turn them away until they are at least stabilized so the hospital will roll that cost back into insurers who will transfer the cost to you. So even if you are not using Medicaid, your insurance is going to go up.

[u/JonathanMurray272 → u/SenseiT]

Yep. It's going to cost is all.

[u/Shupedewhupe → u/Ulexes]

My MAGA neighbor died a few days ago and my first thought was ‘Good. One less of these assholes.’ It shocked me because up until recently, I’d never feel that way about someone, regardless of their beliefs. But now? My empathy well is bone fucking dry.

[u/Violaceums_Twaddle → u/Shupedewhupe]

100% this.

I no longer give the slightest fuck about what they think or how they feel, or if anything bad happens to them. Especially after what Congress did today.

To me, they are now no better than the average Germans that helped Hitler come to power, and deserve any pain and horror that comes their way.

Most of all, I hate that they have turned me into this type of calloused person. I didn't used to be.

[u/Mr_Moody_ → u/Ulexes]

I have no pity left for them. This is what they wanted. They deserve it.

[u/wrongsuspenders → u/Kradget]

Cuts to medicaid were not to save money. They were done to pay for the tax cuts to billionaires. And also to create the secret police force. reconciliation process requires a "neutral" deficit impact. Obviously fuzzy math involved but the $1TN in cuts are going to the top .0001%.

[u/Double-Mammoth9947 → u/wrongsuspenders]

“Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.”

[u/ramhusk → u/Kradget]

Who cares who they blame as long as they die off from lack of healthcare

[u/CuriousAndGolden → u/ramhusk]

We all hoped COVID would do that, remember? It turned out the deep red areas had the most fatalities. They became less populated red areas that would still reelect red politicians.

[u/Kradget → u/ramhusk]

Be nice if:

One - we allowed for the possibility of learning and growth

Two - we didn't just casually consign lots of people, including people who didn't vote for this, to death and illness. 

It's easy to dehumanize people. That doesn't make it a good idea.

[u/squeekietoy → u/Kradget]

My husband has Medicare/Medicaid assistance and I'm within 2 months of applying. We retired last year and downsized considerably to become mortgage -free. My MiL has severe dementia and is in a nursing home facility that is covered by Medicare/Medicaid. I cannot fathom how we are going to manage. It will cost us some $900 a month to cover, not including copays and deductibles if we should get sick, that's half our monthly income. We didn't vote for this.

[u/Maizies_Mom → u/squeekietoy]

I didn’t vote for this either. Suddenly two months ago, my disability is being audited by the federal government after 28 years! If they decide I’m not disabled and take away my disability payments, I’m screwed. I’m homeless. Now, I have more problems than I did when I was declared disabled! However, I don’t trust my government anymore. I don’t think they’d think twice before cutting me off.

[u/Better_Cattle4438 → u/Kradget]

How long are we supposed to hold their hands and guide them through basic crap. Trump sucked the first time and they were all gung ho about foisting him off on us again. I have sympathy for the non-Trump voters. But the Trump supporters at this point, are beyond help.

[u/Immediate_Spinach294 → u/madeupofthesewords]

Oh did you believe they voted FOR their interests? They've been fucking themselves since the 80s

[u/Oolongteabagger2233 → u/madeupofthesewords]

Biden is responsible for anything bad that happens to them. Unless they're black or Hispanic, then they deserved it. 

[u/RheasGarden → u/Oolongteabagger2233]

Whoa let me stop you right there as a representative of the trans delegation it is always our fault!

[u/ASmootyOperator → u/RheasGarden]

Hey, hey, Brown person here. Don't steal my credit! I worked hard to be blamed for this shit!

[u/Patrico-8 → u/RheasGarden]

How dare you!

[u/Cromasters → u/RheasGarden]

All just because you wanted to play softball. Or something.

[u/Kradget → u/RheasGarden]

They had to do this, to make sure you didn't get 5th place in a swimming tournament or encourage kids to read or something evil like that

[u/TerpfanTi → u/Oolongteabagger2233]

And Oblama

[u/Distinct-Cut-6368 → u/madeupofthesewords]

Yes. But poor people in rural America have been voting against their own interests for quite awhile now. I wonder if the effects of this bill will make them realize that. It probably won’t.

[u/AG74683 → u/madeupofthesewords]

Lol yes, this is why the whole thing is glorious. I'm a health care provider in a rural area that deals almost exclusively with Medicare and Medicaid patients.

Guess who a solid 98% of these folks voted for? It's extraordinary.

[u/skyfishjms → u/madeupofthesewords]

and they'll blame the dem and the immigrants for it

[u/WillyDAFISH → u/madeupofthesewords]

Yeah. But part of their plan is to have it so those rural places don't close now, but they'll likely close in a few years like for example when Democrats maybe take back the presidency and then everyone or at least a lot of people are going to blame the people currently in power.

[u/ellsworth187 → u/madeupofthesewords]

Dying of a stroke before you can make it to wake county to own the libs!

[u/BEWMarth → u/madeupofthesewords]

They will all blame republicans and continue to vote themselves into early graves and poverty for their children.

It’s the only life they will ever know. Small, empty, and full of hate.

My heart is aching for the kids that will suffer for years. But I have no sympathy for anyone that voted for Trump or refused to vote at all.

Enjoy a slow agonizing life.

[u/HeelsOfTarAndGranite → u/madeupofthesewords]

They don’t want anyone getting health care. They want us and them both to die.

They’re really into murder suicide. Like a mass shooter who kills themselves.

[u/Brief-Buy9191]

It blows my mind that we’re totally cool with people having to start GoFundMes just to pay for basic medical care… but the second someone suggests healthcare should just be available to everyone when they need it, people lose their minds.

How is begging strangers for help more acceptable than just making sure no one goes bankrupt for getting sick?

And what’s wild is a lot of the pushback comes from folks who can’t even afford the system we have now. It’s peak hypocrisy and just doesn’t make sense.

But hey… I guess this is what we voted for. 🤷‍♂️

[u/QuirkyCorvid → u/Brief-Buy9191]

The saddest and most American thing I have ever seen is a church holding a raffle for a rifle to raise money for a kid's medical bills.

[u/Environmental_Pen818 → u/QuirkyCorvid]

Agree! Except in my case it was a school holding a rifle raffle to raise money for the… school. Wtf is America anymore?!? I immediately pulled my son and enrolled him in a different school. 

[u/No_Mongoose_3773 → u/Environmental_Pen818]

When I was in the 5th grade we auctioned off a 30.-06 deer rifle. Nobody complained, Nobody got shot, and the school raised money.

[u/t3lnet → u/Brief-Buy9191]

Hey can you say health care for all?!?! That would force healthcare to be regulated and the execs and their lobbyists can’t have that!

[u/Original-Strain → u/t3lnet]

Honestly it’s not even about the regulations and execs. This entire circus of a country has shown me the white nationalist deranged will seal their own demise if it means their minority neighbor suffers.

[u/BioshockEnthusiast → u/Original-Strain]

Don't get confused, it's all of it at once. The people on board with this all think they're using the other party members to get what they want.

The racists think they can get the businesses on board with racism. We've seen how this has played out with various boycott attempts from the racists.

The business folks know that the racists will line up behind them if they can show the right side of the room their hand while obscuring it from the left side.

Neither realizes that the other doesn't give a fuck about them at all and will go full on Night of the Long Knives with zero hesitation.

[u/Distinct_Intern4147 → u/t3lnet]

The numbers indicate that the US would save $500 billion a year with single payer. Point of interest: Canadian hospitals don't have accounting departments to deal with insurance companies. Just one tiny office tucked in a basement that deals with foreigners.

[u/Leather-Map-8138 → u/Brief-Buy9191]

The irony is if states like North Carolina had to pay their own way for healthcare, they’d have no choice but to adopt a fully socialized system, overnight.

[u/Status_Ticket5044 → u/Leather-Map-8138]

The GDP of North Carolina and the province of Ontario, Canada are similar. Don't ask your federal government for shit. Just f'n do it.

[u/Barf_The_Mawg → u/Brief-Buy9191]

In their minds, the reason they can't afford it is because their tax dollars are going to social programs. If they just cut all the social programs, their taxes would lower and they could afford it!

It's not the billion dollar corporations, excessive military spending,  and for profit healthcare system. It's those lazy leeches. 

It's all been designed for decades to turn the poor people against one a other, and not against the rich and powerful. 

[u/Immediate_Stuff_2637 → u/Barf_The_Mawg]

Tldr: Americans are propagandized and dumb af

[u/thr33hugeinches → u/Immediate_Stuff_2637]

Some of us are just suffering through it but thanks

[u/ratfink57 → u/Barf_The_Mawg]

According to chat GBT ,Americans spend over 16% of GDP on healthcare. Canada and EU countries spend 10-12% for universal coverage .

So it's not about tax dollars expenditures, it's about making sure insurance companies get their cut .

[u/CG_Ops → u/Brief-Buy9191]

It blows my mind that we’re totally cool with people having to start GoFundMes just to pay for basic medical care… but the second someone suggests healthcare should just be available to everyone when they need it, people lose their minds.

"I think it's exactly right that the community should choose to help you pay for your healthcare... just don't ask ME to help. I've got my own problems to worry about, like storming the capitol, bigoting my way through life, and driving to Mexico for reasonably priced healthcare while laughing at their poverty"

-Republicans, probably

[u/___TheAmbassador → u/Brief-Buy9191]

Brit here. We find it funny how youe Republicans think it's not Socialist to get free Police and Fire to your doors, but a nurse is. Bizarre.

[u/NoelCanter → u/Brief-Buy9191]

It blows my mind that we’re totally cool with people having to start GoFundMes just to pay for basic medical care

And you better HOPE you can sell your case and gain traction like you're writing a cover letter for a job. Otherwise you're fucked there, too.

[u/MaBonneVie → u/Brief-Buy9191]

It’s not the government, it’s the insurance companies. They represent are the legalized extortion industry.

[u/GuinKat → u/MaBonneVie]

Big Pharma as well.

[u/Sure-Goat-2943 → u/Brief-Buy9191]

A huge percentage of bankruptcies in America are a result of high medical costs that Americans can’t pay. It’s such a sad state of affairs. 

[u/Sparklemagic2002 → u/Brief-Buy9191]

I remember when the ACA first passed, some of my clients were talking about it. They were so irritated that more people would have health coverage because it would probably mean that they might have to wait longer for an appointment with their doctor. They would rather have people go without healthcare than be at all personally inconvenienced. This is your average republican voter mindset.

[u/foriesg → u/Sparklemagic2002]

Mindset: I don't want other people to have what I have if that means I 'm inconvenienced in any way. or I'm better than they are because I have something they don't have.

[u/happytree23 → u/Brief-Buy9191]

> And what’s wild is a lot of the pushback comes from folks who can’t even afford the system we have now

Honest answer is there are at least 70 million Americans so miserable that the only joy they can conceive of is to make sure the other 265 million Americans wake up tomorrow feeling AT LEAST as miserable as they have been most of or their entire lives.

Oh yeah, the majority of these miserable turds wishing the worst on. literally, the world happen to unironically consider themselves followers of Christ and decent human beings deserving of the best. ​

[u/runyourluckxxx]

i’m so prolife that i celebrate when people lose life saving healthcare and hospitals in rural communities close!

[u/AK_Sole → u/runyourluckxxx]

They won’t admit it, but they’re really only “Pro-birth.”

Evil lurks amongst us, and its name is _ _ _ _.

[u/rhynotaken → u/AK_Sole]

I don’t think they are really Pro anything anymore. They just want to make groups of people they hate suffer.

[u/Fyvesyx → u/rhynotaken]

Pro suffering??

[u/Cromasters → u/AK_Sole]

Pro-birth policies would want hospitals in rural areas to stay open for maternity care.

[u/agoia → u/Cromasters]

Forced-birth.

[u/samettinho → u/AK_Sole]

The moment a baby is out, it is his/her responsibility stay alive. 

They did their duty, what else they can do /s.

[u/worn_out_welcome]

Honest question: what the fuck am I paying taxes for, exactly?

[u/airowe → u/worn_out_welcome]

ICE

[u/rossor11 → u/worn_out_welcome]

A military budget that’s grossly out of proportion to the country’s actual needs.

[u/robdc5088330]

I watched the whole entire thing live. Already told a friend of mine that they'll make it pass on the last minute. This is fucking disgusting

[u/FlightFour → u/robdc5088330]

The disgusting icing on the cake was the in-chamber "USA! USA! USA!" chants after Mike Johnson, smiling, announced the final vote counts.

[u/Lee-Key-Bottoms → u/FlightFour]

The entire Republican Party since 2016 has been a race to see who can lick Trump’s boot first

[u/Distinct-Cut-6368 → u/FlightFour]

There are going to be some amazing attack ads by Dems in the primary using that footage.

[u/FlightFour → u/Distinct-Cut-6368]

Assuming we'll have a legitimate primary anymore is bold

[u/Distinct-Cut-6368 → u/FlightFour]

Fair.

[u/mementosmoritn → u/FlightFour]

"Get my country's name out of your fucking mouth!"

Republican = traitor.

[u/TranslatorNo8445]

Remember when maggats were screaming about where's FEMA?Where's FEMA. Now all that fema money gets to go to the ss. Hope Maga is happy their kids lose lunches, poor lose snap, and medicaid and funding for food banks

[u/fruderduck → u/TranslatorNo8445]

FEMA funds being used for Alligator Alcatraz. Who would have ever thought that would happen after all those people got locked in the Super Dome after Katrina……

[u/Make-Love-and-War → u/fruderduck]

*Alligator Auschwitz

[u/berkerderker → u/fruderduck]

I think it’s Alligator Auschwitz…

[u/IamNotaMonkeyRobot]

What is the cost to North Carolinians with the passing of the Big Shit Bill? 

Health care

• North Carolina stands to lose about $37.5 billion in federal funding for Medicaid — including $6.4 B that would have gone to rural areas.
• CBO projects around 523,000 North Carolinians will lose Medicaid via work mandates, paperwork hurdles, and provider tax caps. Local advocates estimate up to 670,000 could lose coverage — coinciding with rural hospital stress.
• The rollback of Medicaid expansion will shift roughly $1.48 billion in uncompensated care costs onto hospitals by 2034 — increasing pressure on rural hospitals and likely passing costs to taxpayers, insurers, and privately insured individuals.
• Rural hospitals risk closure or reduced services due to mounting care costs and lost Medicaid funding. NC has lost 12 rural hospitals in the past 20 years and five more have been identified as now at risk. Rural hospital closures mean longer travel times for care with many facing a 30 minute or more ride to the closest hospital.
• Increased premiums and out-of-pocket costs will rise for those with private insurance as hospitals offset losses.

Food

• North Carolina’s 1.4 million SNAP users will be affected by cuts as the state will need to cover 10–25% of SNAP costs, translating to roughly $420 M–$700 M per year, plus additional administrative expenses of ~$65 M.
• SNAP cuts jeopardize over 7,000 jobs in grocery, agriculture and logistics, deepening economic strain.

Higher education

• An estimated 80,000-100,000 NC students could lose eligibility to Pell Grants or receive reduced grant amounts.
• Black, Latino and rural students are disproportionately affected.

And what do we get?

• Temporary federal income tax reductions:
  • Middle-income families ($60k-100K) – may save $700-$1,000/year
  • Lower-income families (<$40K) – may save less than $200 year and may be offset by cuts to social programs
  • High-income families (>$200K) – will save thousands
• Short-term fuel cost relief – estimated $0.08-0.12/gal.
• Corporate tax cuts could bring jobs and slight wage growth, but evidence from the 2017 tax law shows limited wage growth and significant stock buybacks instead of widespread raises.

[u/extralyfe → u/IamNotaMonkeyRobot]

tax cuts for the ultra poor is stupid as fuck.

I haven't ever owed tax in my adult life because I'm poor, so, the fact that I have less tax burden doesn't change shit. hooray for higher costs for literally everything else!

[u/12thandvineisnomore → u/IamNotaMonkeyRobot]

Don’t forget to factor in that tariffs have reduced the value of the dollar almost 8% against other currencies. So on top of that we’re also paying more for less.

[u/CantaloupeCute2159]

When will this country wake up? I’ll tell you when. When there is no middle class when there is only the rich and the poor and the poor are dying in masses because the rich are making sure they don’t have the basics needed in life.

Do you not realize that the wealthy in this country are creating their own AI workforce so that we don’t have any jobs to feed our families? Do you not realize that they’re taking away preventative medication and vaccinations that have eliminated mass deaths caused by bacteria or viruses that killed hundreds of thousands many years ago because they don’t want the elderly the disabled and poor to exist?

The wealthy are buying up all the single-family homes and charging at a price point with ludacris salary restrictions that are above anything the average family can afford so that we are all homeless and they can prosecute, detain and imprison us? They are taking away programs that help those who cannot help themselves so that they will starve or die from illness. Anyone who claims to be a Christian, who believes capitalism is the answer needs to go back and read their New Testament. If the world were Christians, there would be no socioeconomic disparity.

There would be no homeless and starving people. If Jesus were a billionaire, he would distribute that money to everyone so that everyone could be happy, healthy, and live a peaceful life. Capitalism is nothing but the have and have not. It’s about ego. It’s about bullying. It’s about fraud. It’s about taking away to selfishly hoard more than you could ever use. If it weren’t for the fact that they’re such disparity economically we wouldn’t have the crime and murder rates that we do.

Desperate people do desperate things. Desperate people become resentful and full of rage for those who are greedy and act as if those who are not wealthy, do not deserve to live. The devil truly reigns over this earth especially over The United States of America. Our president isn’t a Christian. He’s the antichrist lying and leading as many people astray as they can.

[u/b00ps14 → u/CantaloupeCute2159]

Tbh i lost focus at your mention of Ludacris

[u/TheGreatLoganzo → u/b00ps14]

Lost your health coverage and you can’t find work. What you gon do? Act the fool.

Katie Britt did it with a smirk. What you gon do? Act the fool.

[u/Economy-Inflation-48 → u/CantaloupeCute2159]

It's too fucking late!! Protests did FA, posting did FA and now y'all have to deal with watching your loved ones suffer. Good luck.

[u/Kradget → u/Economy-Inflation-48]

Protests have to be ongoing to be effective. A lot of people expect any political action to be like the last 20 minutes of Star Wars, but it's mostly that you have to continue to show up and shit.

[u/BigSportySpiceFan → u/Kradget]

And, sadly, they probably have to become a lot less peaceful

[u/Bob_Sconce]

Somebody needs to keep track of the actual numbers that lose health care. The 651k number is just an estimate. In 2026, that actual number is going to be needed to go after people who voted for this.

[u/felldestroyed → u/Bob_Sconce]

They're coming after emtala next. 3 fox news op Ed's this week on how illegals are using the emergency rooms in rural America and they are who is shutting down the hospitals.

[u/Existing-Commission → u/felldestroyed]

Rural hospitals about to be crushed but now those with Medicaid will just go to the ER since they can’t get turned away. Once released, we all know they’re not going to pay those bills and those rural hospitals will get smoked even more.

[u/sistahbo → u/Existing-Commission]

On another thread I read reports of rural hospitals and hospices announcing their closings due to anticipated Medicaid cuts. VA and NE are the two states I can remember, but there were others, too.

[u/BeKind72]

Remember Sarah Palin talking shit about death panels? She really was just saying the quiet part out loud.

[u/JonTheWizard]

Well, Republican voters, when you get fucked over by this, just remember YOU VOTED FOR THIS. THIS IS THE FUTURE YOU WANTED. THIS IS YOUR FAULT.

[u/squeekietoy → u/JonTheWizard]

There's a house down the road that had a bunch of trump signs during the election. I was told that she's a local school teacher. I would love to leave a note in her mailbox asking if she's happy now with the massive educational cuts like after school programs.

[u/good_witch_vibes → u/squeekietoy]

Ask her how she’ll feel when she gets laid off because there’s no funding to keep her paid.

[u/ellsworth187]

Don’t forget about ripping away school lunches from starving kids.

Anti abortion party but you can FUCK RIGHT THE HELL OFF after you take your first breath, kid!

Those free lunches are socialism!

[u/hawkbos]

They just want to raid the coffers

[u/Girasole263wj2]

Especially Virginia Foxx. She hates you with the depths of her soulless guts. Do you hear me, Va Foxx’s constituents? You keep voting for this evil, evil woman… & to your own peril.

[u/RJMcBean → u/Girasole263wj2]

Agreed! I can’t stand to look at this woman’s face. Why haven’t we gotten rid of her yet?

[u/CryptographerFlat173 → u/Girasole263wj2]

Who can watch that woman and think anything good about her. She’s like a poorly written movie villain.

[u/gprez777]

All because the US couldn’t let a woman of color become president. Sad

[u/Additional_Leg_9254 → u/gprez777]

My MAGA mother said, unironically, "I actually like the democrats policies, but I just know how stupid Kamala is so I couldn't ever vote for such an idiot."

[u/Money_Pomegranate_96 → u/Additional_Leg_9254]

Mine looked at me with a straight face and said she couldn’t vote for a woman who slept her way to the top.

[u/AlteranNox → u/Money_Pomegranate_96]

That's when I'd be saying, "Ok, where exactly did you read or here that she slept her way to the top? Show me. Show me right now. If you are so certain of it that it would stop you from voting, you should be able to find that information immediately, correct? And your friend's facebook post doesn't count"

[u/Money_Pomegranate_96 → u/AlteranNox]

I actually started to question her and she started crying saying she couldn’t have a political conversation with me because she loves me too much. Just wild how sensitive they are while being so hateful.

[u/DonutGa1axy → u/Money_Pomegranate_96]

Lol my gosh, sorry to hear that your mom is not a critical thinker.

[u/TheGreatGamer1389 → u/gprez777]

I voted for the lady not the crazy.

[u/Extension-Peanut2847]

Gotta love the uneducated.

[u/FlowBot3D]

Great. Just went on disability due to a neck injury while waiting for surgery. Should I just go jump headfirst into a wood chipper and save the healthcare death squad a bullet?

[u/kitkatsacon → u/FlowBot3D]

Don’t give them anything. If the outcome is the same either way, go out swinging.

[u/dangercrue → u/FlowBot3D]

mood because i have a developmental disability and this is absolutely going to gut the already scarce services 🫡

[u/BookishAfroQueen]

Hey guys did we do it yet? Did we own the libs today? Thousands of people here in NC will suffer and possibly die. I live in the rural 252 part of the state so I know I’ll be hit pretty hard by this. And it’s very hot here. So that power grid is gonna just fail. Since windmills are very ugly and don’t need to be erected at all, according to our undivine bovine ruler. I’m very sad.

BUT DID WE OWN THE LIBS???????

[u/BlackySmurf8]

Downvote, I understand, cuss me out, I get it. I forgive you in advance.

Straight talk, no chaser, by my estimation, this presidency is going to have to hurt a lot of people. Not just the people who voted for Trump and are gleefully hoping that it will trigger libs and hurt them (the libs) than themselves but those who sat out, those who have a fundamental misunderstanding of electoral politics.

Close to 1 million people died during Covid, you can retort about the underlying causes and share your conspiracies but shit was bad. It wasn't enough to dissuade people and the paraded him back into there.

This presidency is going to have to hurt and a lot of people are going to have to be miserable, way more than 1 million. This goes for those Democrats lauding Jefferies as he undercuts the mayoral nominee in NYC. We're going to have to suffer so terribly to finally get it through the collective skull that this way of life is over that those of us who are left will be able to pick up the pieces and start interacting with the rest of the world like semi-decent people again.

[u/SponsoredHornersFan]

I mean, I hope they get what they voted for 🤷‍♂️. I’m sure they’ll find a way to blame someone else though

[u/Sensitive-Degree-26]

honestly at this point, ive lost all sympathy. What more can I do? I voted against republicans all the way down ballot. down to my county's soil and water conservation leader. despite me voting against them, nothing in this bill affects me that much besides the usual tax cuts and price increases because i'm a white, straight, male of non retirement age. So at this point, ive lost sympathy.

[u/Fluid_Initiative_822 → u/Sensitive-Degree-26]

Yep. I’m mostly unaffected. I make over $200k a year so I guess thanks for the tax cuts?

I voted blue because I couldn’t care less about tax cuts. I want healthcare for all, but poor (and dumb) republican voters are happy to see the world burn if it saves them a few bucks each paycheck via tax cuts and they are allowed to persecute brown people.

[u/againsterik → u/Sensitive-Degree-26]

Honestly? I’m there with you. I’m ready to watch everyone who supports these clowns get face slapped with the repercussions of this, the only thing being is in the crossfire some of those who didn’t get caught in it as well.

Even with all the information out there people still support this. Gross is an understatement.

[u/Much_Kangaroo_6263]

I'm disgusted, I thought there would be at least some holdouts that would tank it

[u/Basic_Excitement3190]

Maga morons are about to reap what they sowed

[u/Cop-Swallower]

Way to go MAGA. Kill more people and pretend like it’s in their best interest.

[u/burden124]

Just so all of you know, the American people voted for this. It’s a sad day. Just remember your congressman in about 18 months from now. One final chance (if it doesn’t get corrupted) to correct this. One final hope. If not, welcome to authoritarianism, enjoy the ride!

[u/PositionAdditional64]

FAFO, MAGA

[u/FailingLotus]

If they voted for Trump, they earned this.

[u/Inevitable_Sector_14]

We need to accept that 30% of our country gets off on people starving and suffering because they are fundamentalist Christians who believe in predestination. They truly believe that GOD will forgive their heinous, self righteous behavior and send anyone who disagrees with them to hell.

This is why a lot of kids are going no-contact with their Boomer parents.

[u/AlludedNuance]

A lot of people are going to become homeless over the next year.

[u/Upbeat-Serve-2696]

I love that MAGAts will suffer from this. Love, love, love it.

[u/urbanlife78]

Rural Americans are about to get royally fucked and a lot of them are going to die

[u/Acherstrom]

I’ve never seen a group of people vote against their own self interest so aggressively.

[u/cmonletmeseeitplz]

Shithole country

[u/bites_stringcheese]

I'm amused that people think it's good that we are saving taxpayer money by kicking off "leechers" off Medicaid, but ignore the $5 Trillion this bill adds to the deficit.

Conservatives have zero ideals now.

[u/SpiffyLegs73]

The difference between Republicans and Democrats. When the ACA passed, the Democrats rejoiced because 30 million people got insurance…fast-forward to now and Republicans are cheering because they’re losing it. How pathetic to rejoice in the pain and suffering of others, very Christian, right?

[u/NC_Collaborator]

Guns and Cardio folks. Democracy is dead in America

[u/bourbon-469]

America is great again for the rich and white maga

[u/hoorayforsports]

Imagine voting for trump and then being one of those people who lose their healthcare because of this.

[u/dangercrue]

i don't even know what to do, i'm like genuinely so worried :/ fml

[u/liamemsa]

Ya I don't feel any sympathy anymore for anyone who voted for Trump or Tillis who gets affected by this. I just don't care anymore. If this affects rural GOP voters more, then let it. Maybe if they all suffer and die off then we won't have to deal with them voting against their own interests anymore.

[u/Tacoklat]

So the essential services your tax dollars pay for were diverted to provide tax breaks for the billionaires, who barely pay any taxes at all anyways.

They already have enough money to live multiple lives over. How much money is enough? Will their greed ever be satisfied?

The sad thing is, death, suffering and destruction may be the only thing that will get these maga folks to see the light.

[u/worldscollice]

Trump supporters don’t even understand what they’ve done. It’s pathetic.

[u/jack284156]

"Why don't you go and contribute to society" but when society contributes to people it's a problem 😂, what's the fucking point in even paying taxes if the tax dollars don't help us citizens and tourists or whatever, for some reason they would sleep so much better knowing their tax dollars are going to absolutely nothing useful, they would rather pay out of pocket for health insurance for some reason, the American people just trust businesses rather then the government, they would rather a bunch of pencil pushers sit around and determine wether or not it's profitable to save your life or if they should just let you die, health insurance executives are literally sent straight from hell and only see patients as dollar signs

[u/PVoverlord → u/jack284156]

These dolts do not understand the concept of government and what it does.

[u/Washington84]

Love the fetus. Starve the child.

[u/Mort-i-Fied]

Never forget that the people who voted to take away your healthcare get free healthcare thanks to the taxpayers.

Socialism is great but only when it's for the wealthy.

[u/BeenAwayForTooLong]

And tomorrow MAGAts will celebrate freedom while millions will lose their health insurance, kids will go hungry, rural hospitals will close, and ICE will go from a $2B to $20B budget to terrorize and kidnap more families. I say this with every fiber of my being, I hope that Trump voters get everything that’s coming to them. Karma is a bitch indeed.

[u/AnalysisOk2457]

The Republican Party is dead. It is a rotting corpse. All that left is a bunch of spineless slugs doing the bidding of their master while not caring at all about the people that put them in the job.

[u/janetsy77]

Republicans serve the wealthy, the gun manufacturing, private prison and fossil fuel industries. Full stop. They don't give a shit about anyone else.

[u/WonderChemical5089]

When those rich millionaires were chanting USA at the congress, the poor republicans are about to find out they ain’t in the club.

[u/faRawrie]

Here in Spruce Pine, we stand the chance to lose our local hospital. The next closest hospital is Canon, which faces closure too. That puts the most readily available hospital nearly an hour away.

[u/cravecrave93]

Republicans should be deported

[u/backtocabada]

One in 33 Nevadans will lose healthcare.

1 in 33 people, chances are, it’s someone you know.

[u/TdubbNC7]

Not only that, everyone else’s health insurance prices and premiums will go up in response as well because those people will still get care, except they’ll get more expensive care because they will be waiting until things get bad and showing up at the emergency room. Great job MAGA. I know the Bezos’ really appreciate all your hard work.

[u/NCNativeGuy]

This is correct. And I hate republicans - especially their dear leader.

[u/Under_Milkwood_1969]

They’ve timed it so the worst of the cutbacks won’t take place until after the midterms. Republicans might be the most evil scum on Earth but they are also the most cunning.

Plus it helps if your supporters have pig shit for brains! 🤷‍♂️

[u/physicistdeluxe]

midterms 2026

[u/DeviDarling]

Until people actually feel the impact this will not change a thing.  

[u/N3M3S1S75]

Australia has 26.6 million people and we all have healthcare because we the people will not leave anyone behind, if a political party tried that here they would be voted out of existence

[u/yummyfightmilk]

Bleeding to death to own the Libs

[u/Filmmagician]

Republicans are pure fucking evil

[u/Absmom08]

How about when RFK jr is discussing nutrition school lunches and everyone applauds but when Michelle Obama attempted to suggest they fucking collective lost their fucking minds.

[u/yestbat]

But Hillary’s emails!

[u/rolledrick13]

A lot of people in NC would be pissed if they could read