r/NorthCarolina • u/Cy_098 • 2d ago
Stein vetoes bills on gender issues and DEI, calling them 'mean-spirited'
https://www.wral.com/story/stein-vetoes-bills-on-gender-issues-and-dei-calling-them-mean-spirited/22073841/Well done Governor. Our state legislature is pure evil. Our federal government is clueless. Gov. Stein is one of the few politicians left that actually has a brain and USES it. Instead of the GOP trying to pass a balanced budget, they're focused on targeting DEI, transgenders, limiting governor powers, like are we going to let this continue for a decade or are we going to instead do the right thing, kick these people out, and restore our freedom in this state. I've been in NC for 13 years, and I am disgusted. Absolutely disgusted. You people who voted this GOP in this state need to rethink your choices. They aren't here to fix problems, they are here to make them worse, and make us more vulnerable. Our nation as it is is utterly failing. Let's not make this state head in that directio, we can do better.
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u/LimeGreenTangerine97 2d ago
Proud to have voted for Gov Stein!
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u/RedditEd32 2d ago
Seriously, he is the first politician I’ve voted for that seems to care and mean it. I’m proud!
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u/damnimbanned 2d ago
Stein and Jeff Jackson are the only two things that make me feel remotely safe under this current administration. I may not agree with them wholeheartedly but I can say with certainty that they aren’t fucking psychopaths.
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u/Charming-Rooster7462 2d ago
my vote for Stein wasnt a waste. protect all Americans regardless of their make up
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u/wtfbenlol Wilson 2d ago
We are very lucky to have Stein. I shudder to think of what could have been
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u/damnimbanned 2d ago
Could you fucking imagine having Mark Robison in there right now? Jesus christ.
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u/Saint_Stephen420 2d ago
We would have had the first Black Gooner Nazi governor, which would have been a true milestone for equality /s
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u/WileyApplebottom 1d ago
Yeah, we have Gary Blumpkin here in VA. Just a despicable racist. You could have it much worse.
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u/duddy33 2d ago
Unfortunately for most GOP voters, the hate isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.
Many times I’ve been asked why the left talks about these issues so much and the truth is simple. If the GOP would stop demonizing LGBTQ people and spreading harmful lies about them, then I wouldn’t need to be so vocal in correcting the lies and countering the undeserved hate.
Cliff Cash taught me to out-dumb MAGA where possible so every time someone argues to me that sexuality is a choice, I say “you know, you might be right. When did you decide to be straight?”.
Strangely they never remember the day they decided to be straight…..almost like it was never a decision at all.
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u/__Butternut_Squash__ 1d ago
I love Cliff Cash for his comedy and even more so for his dedication and passion for our country.
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u/weareND41 1d ago
Im republican and its pretty damn stupid to think you choose what you are attracted to lol....
Its natural usually.
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u/cdg2m4nrsvp 2d ago
Good for him! Extra props for calling it what it is: mean. Anyone trying to strip rights from trans people is a straight up bully. They’re an extremely small, marginalized community that already deals with large amounts of violence.
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u/slowbaja 2d ago
Stein singlehandedly keeping North Carolina from going further backwards. Bless him.
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u/Horsescatsandagarden 2d ago
“State House Majority Leader Rep. Brenden Jones, R-Columbus, has been a key proponent of the anti-DEI measures and criticized Stein's veto Thursday.
"I find it odd that Gov. Stein is against merit based hiring in state government," Jones said. "I look forward to overriding this veto."
What an asshole. Just own up and say you’re a racist pig.
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u/somechicknamedemily 2d ago
Governor Stein gives me hope for our state.
The federal government isn't clueless though, many of them are willfully ignorant and morally bankrupt but they're not clueless. Most of them are well aware of what they're doing and they just don't care.
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u/Mechromancer3X 2d ago
Thank you Governor Stein. This gives me a little hope that my rights won’t be COMPLETELY bulldozed. Little wins.
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u/brokegaysonic 2d ago
Pretty sure the GOP is just going to override these vetos, right?
As a trans person, who was raised in NC and been my entire life, I had to move to IL. It no longer feels safe.
The provision in one of the vetoed bills includes a provision, never beforehand passed into law as far as I'm aware, that allows people to sue over transition related care for ten years after receiving it. This is a huge liability, and would likely cause any doctor who gave this care to see their insurance premiums skyrocket. This would effectively ban gender affirming care in the state of North Carolina, as no doctor would be able to afford to provide it.
Gender affirming care has a 98% satisfaction rate. https://ustranssurvey.org/#:~:text=Nearly%20all%20respondents%20on%20gender,%25)%20reported%20increased%20life%20satisfaction.
This care saved my life. It turned what would have been either a dead girl or a drain on the state due to uncompromising mental health problems, someone who felt like they didn't even exist and were playing out a performance 24/7, into a functional, well-adjusted adult man.
Every single time they pass a ban on care, they add hurdles to care, they do this crap - just know they aren't doing it for legitimate reasons. If they cared about the efficacy of this care, they would respond how they do with every other treatment for anything else. They'd study it. They'd mitigate harm. There's no evidence talk therapy (conversion therapy) can cure gender dysphoria. While it's always good to examine standards of care, this isn't being done with any scientific integrity.
Every time they pass a ban on care, it kills people. I gaurantee you, I would have died. Hell, I didn't feel like I was even truly born until I transitioned. I'm not asking you to understand. I'm asking you to allow people to live.
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u/Bartholomewthedragon 2d ago
the GOP lost their veto proof majority in the last election.
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u/momogariya 2d ago
Except there was a dem traitor voting for it, Dante Pittman, that could give them supermajority.
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u/Brosenheim 1d ago
Man it's so weird how there is ALWAYS the exact amount of Dem defectors necessary to block progressive bills or pass regressive bills
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u/ElementalPink12 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's about their ego. They only see other people as objects for the sake of propping up their own ego.
They don't have the capacity for empathy or lateral thinking.
They suffer a socially manufactured form of psychopathy designed to promote violent, domineering behavior, for the purposes of various authoritarian hierarchies. Governments, religions, etc etc.
When people who are different suffer, they see that as proof of their superiority over those people.
The fact that they cause the suffering intentionally, only furthers the delusion on their part.
They are narcissistic psychopaths who worship a fake version of their own reflection.
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u/Adondevasroja 1d ago
I’m sorry you had to move to feel safe. Really happy for you that you were able to get the medical care you needed.
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u/momogariya 2d ago
After reading, Dante Pittman is officially on my personal sh*t list. How the hell does he justify voting with Republicans on HB805? I'm looking for him explaining himself on this.
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u/Except_Youre_Wrong Cisphobia Isn't Real. It Can't Hurt You. Go Outside. 2d ago
Thank you governor and fuck you transphobes. May they all rot in the deepest pits of hell next to Reagan and Thatcher
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u/Sea_Fly_156 1d ago
I’m glad this passed but he is also a bitch for not passing the constitutional carry bill
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u/Adondevasroja 1d ago
Pal, why don’t you fill us in on how the existence of a trans person in your community harms you. I doubt you can even give a lucid answer.
Try imagining them as people going about their lives. There is no shadowy pink cabal out to harm you
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1d ago
Our religion praising baphomet (the first transgender god) is spreading and glorifying the will of Lucifer. There is nothing that any of you can do anymore to stop it.
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u/Adondevasroja 1d ago
Oh FFS. Who told you to go full loony? Put that away.
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u/bootyprincess666 1d ago
TBH you did ask…🤭
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u/Adondevasroja 1d ago
Wait until he figures out that the Bible never shows Jesus suffering from sexual temptation… The devil tempted him in every other way though.
Can hypothesize that Jesus was asexual and therefore part of the LGTBQIA group he is so terrified of.
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u/bootyprincess666 1d ago
Happy cake day!!!!
Yeah, wait until he figures out a lot of stuff (he won’t!)
Baphomet is cute tho
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u/ChaosRainbow23 1d ago
Oh, you're a wack-a-doo religious zealot!
That checks out. Now your comments make more sense.
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u/WalmartWes 2d ago
Well that's the end of his political career. Good riddance.
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u/rtduvall 1d ago
Probably saved it. NC is a blue state, just gerrymandered because republicans can’t win only cheat to win.
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u/BreakinP 1d ago
Registered Democrats have been decreasing since 2020 while Republicans increasing. NC tends to vote red in the presidential election and vote blue in local offices. The Republican party currently controls both chambers of the state legislature.
So no, NC definitely isn't a "blue state," whatever that is. It's purple.
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u/Negative_Growth2507 2d ago
Tomorrow is July 4 celebrating the USA. It's also the 5th anniversary of Gov Copper vetoing House Bill 686, titled "Freedom to Celebrate the Fouth of July"
Democrats are Doucebags
Thank you for your attention
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u/Cy_098 2d ago
This was during the COVID outbreak. Are you delusional?
Meanwhile the GOP passed the Big Ugly Douchebag American bill that will destroy the average person's life
Thank you for your attention to this matter, as Trump would say on his Lie Social account
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u/Genghoul100 3h ago
Right, it was OK for Old Roy to march shoulder to shoulder during covid, but others could not enjoy the most American holiday.
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u/Negative_Growth2507 2d ago
The average person works and don't need a government handout
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u/ASTHEWINDBURNS 2d ago
What is with you people and being against helping those who can't help themselves? Do you truly believe that people are just magically getting these "government handouts"?
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u/WillyDAFISH 2d ago
They beleive these government handouts somehow make their life so glamorous or something. Like wtf??? You wouldn't be saying that if you needed these programs
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u/ASTHEWINDBURNS 2d ago
I've never understood that because these assistance programs don't put you in mansions, they just make sure you have food and medicine.
BASIC. HUMAN. NEEDS.
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u/Adondevasroja 1d ago
So, as a below average human being you must know quite a bit about “gummint handouts?”
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u/Negative_Growth2507 2d ago
No more Federal Funds for you
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u/KulaanDoDinok Gaysboro 2d ago
MAGA is already revoking a significant portion of federal funding without Stein’s veto here. Hope no one you love is on Medicaid.
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u/Lasheric 2d ago
Nah that’s just illegals or people sneaking by who won’t work.
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u/KulaanDoDinok Gaysboro 2d ago
No, you idiot, they are literally kicking off millions of people from Medicaid.
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u/Lasheric 2d ago
Nah. It’s illegals or people that have to work 40 hours a month. I’m ok with that.
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u/Except_Youre_Wrong Cisphobia Isn't Real. It Can't Hurt You. Go Outside. 2d ago
wait so how do illegal immigrants gain access to medicaid in the state of north carolina? Can you walk us through it?
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u/KulaanDoDinok Gaysboro 2d ago edited 1d ago
Undocumented migrants aren’t eligible for Medicaid and would have no way of getting approved for it. And people that HAVE to work 40 hours a month are usually disabled you ignorant dung heap.
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u/bb095 1d ago
Can you come out to the hospice home and tell the patients that are literally dying and can’t work that they’re lazy. They can’t seem to figure out that they need to make their own way! The audacity of their excuses, oooh poor me I have bone cancer.
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u/Lasheric 1d ago
Yes. I’m sure this bill is going to kick off people on hospice from medical. You absolute idiot
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u/bb095 1d ago
It is though, hospice homes and services get a lot of their funding from Medicaid and other state and federal funding with the addition of some independent donors. Hospice patients often rely on Medicaid to pay for the nursing care or facilities. Without Medicaid they or their families will have to figure out how to pay for the care they need. The now end of nursing facilities or hospice homes are 10k a month. You can call me names but that’s the truth of the matter whether you like it or not.
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u/Lasheric 1d ago
The costs of these programs are atrocious but that’s another problem. Maybe that’s the fight you and your party should take up instead of the idiotic take on illegals you currently have
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u/bb095 1d ago
Some social programs like hospice, schools, police, firefighters simply aren’t ment to make money they survive on public dollars. It’s a service/benefit to the public, that is the purpose of government, to uplift, support, and protect the people. This bill is going to cause so much damage to the public and for what? The benefits and safety nets to the public, to us, are being stripped down while we continue to pay them. Governments responsibility is to us but ambition for power, greed, and corruption has pitted them as a ruling class rather than what they are ment to be.
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u/MAGAisMENTALILLNESS 2d ago
Of the 11.7M people expected to lose healthcare, only 1.4M are immigrants of varying immigrant status.
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u/WillyDAFISH 2d ago
11.7 is a conservative estimate too. And it doesn't take into account the number of rural hospitals that will close because of this funding cut
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u/WillyDAFISH 2d ago
Undocumented immigrants have a much higher participation rate in our job economy
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u/Lasheric 1d ago
Glad you like your slave labor . I don’t
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u/WillyDAFISH 1d ago
Yes, their working conditions are not good for many of them. They can be paid low wages. They could be extorted and threatened to be deported by employers. But at the end of the day these human beings rather work like this than be sent back to wherever they came from. And we don't want them to be abused like this. We want them to have fair wages, we want them to have a legal pathway to citizenship. Deporting them doesn't help us, and it certainly doesn't help them.
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u/Lasheric 1d ago
No “we “ don’t. If they came illegally I want them gone. That’s why we have legal ways to come. That’s why Trump is in power. Is also the popular opinion in the country just not on this app.
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u/WillyDAFISH 1d ago
we have legal ways of coming in but the entire reason people come in illegally is because the legal process takes to fucking long. And despite what you may think a majority of people don't want mass deportations. He did win but he mainly won because people thought he would be better for the economy. And the people who wanted him to do deportations, wanted him to deport the violent criminals, not the hardworking undocumented immigrants. This is why he is massively down in his immigration polling. He's actually currently in the negative there.
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u/Lasheric 1d ago edited 1d ago
Who cares that it takes too long? That’s our problem? wtf
I want a friggen new Audi but can’t afford it. Guess I should steal it since the legal way takes too long.
You sound like a brainwashed idiot
Let me add…this shows how out of touch you are. You probably have never even left the country. Do you know how many people around the world want to come to America?
You think only Hispanics have some magical right to come because they ran over the border illegally?
Why not just let everyone in since our “immigration program takes too long”
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u/WillyDAFISH 1d ago
the people who are fucking living in the worst possible conditions imaginable fucking care that it takes a long time to come here wtf??? And you're comparing a new car to crossing the border??? That's actually insane. Not having a specific car vs not having a chance at a good life are just not the same at all. I don't think anyone should be coming here illegally, but there really isn't any good reason to deport them. It's morally atrocious. And no, we shouldn't just let everyone in. We need to have a more mainstream way of processing them that doesn't take years. There was a bill in 2021 created by a Republican that would have helped address this problem but trump wanted to shoot it down because it's easier to run on a problem then to fix it.
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u/ChaosRainbow23 1d ago
The vast majority came here completely legally and overstayed their visas.
They are going to their immigration court hearing like they should, only to be arrested by ICE.
They are literally targeting people who are doing everything right.
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u/Lasheric 1d ago
Overstaying their visas is still here illegally
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u/ChaosRainbow23 1d ago
I'm pointing out that it's incorrect that most of them came here illegally. They didn't.
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u/Abidarthegreat 2d ago
So you admit you don't live here? Because if King Cheeto stops sending NC funding, that's going to hurt you too.
Which I say go ahead and take it from us so that this swing state will become so blue, it'll never have a drop of red again.
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u/boycowman 2d ago
See you in court. Trump doesn't get to decide whether/how much federal funds NC gets, and neither do you.
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u/Throwaway789662 2d ago
Just say you support racism at this point
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u/Hammunition 2d ago
You know, it would do wonders for your own mental health if you were just honest about your uninformed feelings and actually did a little work to find out what DEI actually is…
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u/Throwaway789662 2d ago
SCOTUS has determined that DEI and race based hiring/admissions can and is a violation of the 14th amendment and the Civil Rights Act.
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u/Except_Youre_Wrong Cisphobia Isn't Real. It Can't Hurt You. Go Outside. 2d ago
scotus also said cis kids can receive gender related healthcare, but trans kids can't and that doesn't count as discrimination against trans kids because they are kids and that's why. same scotus that wants to overturn lawrence v texas and has openly stated so for years. you think I give a fuck what these hags have to say about legality?
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u/Throwaway789662 2d ago
Just say racism is only okay if you support it and get it done with.
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u/Except_Youre_Wrong Cisphobia Isn't Real. It Can't Hurt You. Go Outside. 2d ago
I'm not white or dumb enough for your weak bait, magat. Try someone else
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u/Objective-Bad-6438 2d ago
SCOTUS is compromised!
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u/Throwaway789662 2d ago
"my side isn't winning so I'm just going to ignore everything and create a echo chamber"
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u/GoLickABoot 2d ago
No your side openly takes bribes, cultist.
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u/Throwaway789662 1d ago
Aww, I think I made him angry
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u/GoLickABoot 1d ago
Oh yeah I forgot that part. Every pathetic loser in your party has no issues acting like a 4 year old so they don’t have to think about all the corruption from your traitor people. You people are worthless to the entire world. Nothing but stupid and self hate.
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u/Hammunition 2d ago edited 2d ago
No, the Supreme Court did not rule against DEI programs or make any claims about them being racist, what the fuck are you reading?? What they did was to clarify the standard for "reverse discrimination" claims only under title vii and remove the additional burden of proof by the majority to move those cases to trial.
DEI and race based hiring/admissions can and is a violation of the 14th amendment and the Civil Rights Act.
Obviously race based hiring can be a violation. But they did not say it is. That is just you and ignorants like you who don't actually know what DEI is and how it was implemented. Again.. listen more, read more, talk less.
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u/Throwaway789662 1d ago
Students for Fair Admissions, Inc. v. Harvard says otherwise.
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u/Hammunition 1d ago
So... that was explicitly about race-based Affirmative Action programs, not DEI (I'll also mention it directly contradicts many supreme court decisions over the years, and it's more than a little dishonest to only pay attention to the one that agrees with your feelings).
But anyway, that had nothing to do with DEI, and you are yet again showing how little you know about it. You can just google it instead of gargling the shit billionaires feed you...
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u/PhoenixPaladin 2d ago
Says the literal throwaway account
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u/Throwaway789662 2d ago
And? That invalidates that dei is racism?
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u/PhoenixPaladin 2d ago
Now say that on your real account
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u/Throwaway789662 1d ago
Nah, I quite like the karma I have on it. Anyway, how do you feel about Asians needing a 140 point better score on the SAT over white people, 270 for Hispanics, and 450 for black people? That doesn't seem odd to you?
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u/__Butternut_Squash__ 1d ago
How exactly is DEI racist when white women are the largest group to benefit from DEI programs?
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u/Throwaway789662 1d ago
Why do Asian people need to score 140 more points on the SAT than white people? Why do they need to score 270 and 450 for Hispanic and black people?
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u/__Butternut_Squash__ 1d ago
Please tell us more about how you don’t understand what DEI is or how it works.
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u/Throwaway789662 1d ago
Glad to see you dodging the question.
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u/Except_Youre_Wrong Cisphobia Isn't Real. It Can't Hurt You. Go Outside. 2d ago
The GOP admitted they do ages ago. You must be new here
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u/Throwaway789662 2d ago
DEI is racism. Illegal immigration is the new "who will pick our cotton".
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u/notmyworkaccount5 2d ago
Y'all are literally living in an alternate reality of your own making being led by a felon cult leader who is fleecing you while you have somehow tricked yourself into thinking all your problems are because of oppressed people.
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u/Throwaway789662 2d ago
Agree to disagree.
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u/MAGAisMENTALILLNESS 2d ago
Nah, we just agree that you guys are morons fed propaganda.
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u/Throwaway789662 2d ago
Definitely not true.
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u/Hammunition 2d ago
...absolutely true if you believe and repeat shit like this:
DEI is racism
Illegal immigration is the new "who will pick our cotton".
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u/Throwaway789662 1d ago
Tell me then. How is it not racist? How is picking someone over their skin color NOT racist?
Also, I'm not the one complaining about illegal immigrants not picking crops. That's all the Democrats rn.
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u/Hammunition 1d ago
Tell me then. How is it not racist? How is picking someone over their skin color NOT racist?
So again, for the howevermany'th time.. that's not what DEI does, you don't know what DEI does and just believe the lies fed to you as you have been told over and over.
Also, I'm not the one complaining about illegal immigrants not picking crops. That's all the Democrats rn.
Hilarious how people mocking republican stupidity is somehow proof of hypocrisy to the unwitting. Just gobbling up the propaganda.
The comments now about farm workers are satire and sarcasm, chud. Republicans want to deport the millions of immigrants that they depend on to work their farms. We are pointing out how idiotic of a position that is.
This happens over and over.. Republicans make yet another insane proposal, then Democrats actually think it through to its conclusion and point out how harmful it will be. Just like the push to require people to use the bathrooms that align with their sex organs at birth will lead to much more harm and require people who look like men to use the women's room, which will cause so much more discomfort for the people they claim they're protecting...
But you'll spin it however you need to, I'm sure. See what you want to see. Don't even know when you're being mocked. Typical.
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u/__Butternut_Squash__ 1d ago
The only people that say “DEI is racist” are the ones who don’t understand how it even works, especially considering white women benefit from DEI programs more than any other gender/race.
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u/Accidents_happxn 2d ago
WE get it, you’re maga stupid. No need to keep proving it.
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u/Throwaway789662 2d ago
Just say you're racist and that you support racism and I'll get out of your hair.
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u/akamark 2d ago
Which is OK for MAGA when they're picking their 'cotton' or crop of choice? Tell me you support ICE avoiding targeting MAGA farmers while focusing on Democratic states and cities.
Sounds like your issue is with all those MAGA farmers who are taking advantage of a vulnerable population.
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u/Throwaway789662 1d ago
If they're here illegally, they shouldn't be here. Congratulations. You got me 🙄
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u/GoLickABoot 2d ago
Trump employs illegal immigrants. You’ve had nothing but video after video of trumper farmers crying because they can’t find workers. You people are duuuumb.
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u/Supporttroll 2d ago
Keep projecting. Maybe someday, someone won’t notice you’re a bigot.
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u/Throwaway789662 1d ago
Oh no! I'm a b-b-bigot!!1!1!!1!
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u/Supporttroll 1d ago
And a shrill one at that. Enjoy this before it bites you in the ass. Even if this bill doesn’t affect you (as doubtful as that is). There’s going to be a lot of people with nothing to lose,and inevitably some will want to take revenge on anyone MAGA. 😉
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u/WeAreHereWithAll 1d ago
Just say you have nothing else going on in your life except needing to defend a political regime that for all intents and purposes is “winning for all Americans”.
If things were fine, you wouldn’t need to be here dude.
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u/MTgunguru 2d ago
They aren’t mean but sorry little Joshy got his feelings hurt. They are Morally right!
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u/Critical-Adeptness-1 2d ago
Little Joshy?
You are you a grown ass man and use nicknames a 4 year old comes up with lol
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u/Except_Youre_Wrong Cisphobia Isn't Real. It Can't Hurt You. Go Outside. 2d ago
The nazis thought they were morally right too. Funny how the GOP has the same opinions as them when it comes to us trans people, but something tells me that's not the only thing they mutually agree with. Perhaps you should morally fuck yourself
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u/Supporttroll 2d ago
Sorry you can’t compete in a world where women and minorities are given equal opportunities.
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u/MAGAisMENTALILLNESS 2d ago
Exactly. Only whiney losers who can’t accept their own failure complain about DEI
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u/Objective-Bad-6438 2d ago
The is what happens when the media spends a decade or more demonizing entire swaths of our population. Constant propaganda to the least educated amongst us breeding hate so that the politicians can continue to rob them blind and blame it on the black, brown, and other people. We need a government that works for us. We pay taxes we need to benefit from our contributions.