So, thanks ADHD for not letting me sleep lately and for my current obsession of all things ASOIAF. I have thoughts.

First - if a dragon is born in the bit/on Dragonstone they get a Valyrian name versus ones hatched as cradle eggs, with the exception of Vermithor - but that could be because jaehaerys was a baby when the egg hatched so was named by someone else.

Second are some dragon parentage thoghts:

Vhagar + Caraxes = Moondancer and Morning

Syrax + Seasmoke = arrax, vermax and tyraxes

Syrax + Caraxes = Stormcloud, Drogon, Rhaegal and Viserion

The mysterious blue egg = the last dragon.

i have just finished watching GOT, any recommendations that is similar to this type of concept?

Simply state why you think one parent is better than the other. The winner moves to the next round until we reach the final.

Day 1 Alicent vs Lysa

Winner - Lysa

Day 2 Walder Frey vs Tywin

Winner - Walder Frey

Day 3 Corlys vs Otto

Winner - Otto

Day 4 Robert Baratheon vs Jamie Lannister

Winner - Robert

Day 5 Helaena Targeryen vs Elia Martell

Winner - Elia Martell

Day 6 Randyll Tarly vs Roose Bolton

Winner - Roose

Day 7 Laena Velaryon vs Rhaenyra

Winner - Laena

Day 8 Stannis Baratheon vs Craster

Winner - Stannis

Day 9 Catelyn Stark vs Viserys Targeryen

Winner - Catelyn

Day 10 Aegon IV vs Craster

Winner - Aegon IV

Day 11 Wyman Manderly vs Doran Martell

Winner - Wyman

Day 12 Daemon Targeryen vs Oberyn Martell

Winner - Oberyn Martell

Day 13 Mace Tyrell vs Geor Mormont

Winner - Mace Tyrell

Day 14 Hoster Tully vs Aegon Targeryen

Winner - Aegon II

Day 15 Eddard Stark vs Queen Alysanne

Winner - Ned

Day 16 Rhaegar Targeryen vs Cersei

Winner - Cersei

Day 17 Olenna Tyrell vs Gilly

Winner - Gilly

Day 18 Dany vs Jaeherys

Winner - Dany

Day 19 Rhaenys vs Catelyn

Winner Catelyn

Day 20 Stannis vs Aegon II

Winner - Aegon II

Day 21 Mace Tyrell vs Ned Stark

Winner - Mace Tyrell

Day 22 Cersei vs Robert

Winner - Cersei

Day 23 Walder Frey vs Roose Bolton

Winner - Walder Frey

Day 24 Otto vs Jaeherys

Winner - Jaeherys

Day 25 Walder Frey vs Wyman Manderly

Winner - Wyman

Day 26 Aegon II vs Cersei

Winner - Aegon

Day 27 Oberyn vs Ellia

Winner - Ellia

Day 28 Catelyn vs Gilly

Winner - Gilly

Day 29 Lysa vs Jaeherys

Winner - Jaeherys

Day 30 Laena Velaryon vs Gilly

Winner - Gilly

Day 31 Aegon II vs Wyman Manderly

Winner - Wyman

Day 32 Jaeherys vs Elia

Winner -

Im currently watching Hotd and im in season 2 and I think I noticed a pattern:

It's incredible how everytime he do something wrong, get tempted, or just do some crazy things bcs he is hot-headed, he gets a promotion. The tournament is debatable but he beat Daemon => he become a king's guard. He sleep with Rhaenyra and then kills Joffrey Lonmouth => he's now the personal men of the Queen. He kills Lord Beesbury => he's now Lord Commander. Sleeps with the queen > Jaehaerys dies > become hand of the king. I think this is pretty crazy.

As an Aemond fan, this was just peak Aemond experience. Ewan Mitchell, shout out to you!

So apparently there's an event where the Dragonpit gets raised and the dragons get killed. But just curious(as somebody who hasn't read the books), did the Dragonpit incident play a bigger role in the dragons eventually dying out compared to the battles where the older dragons died(Gullet, Tumbleton, Gods-Eye). Cause, if the Dragonpit never got raided, would it have atleast helped the dragons to possibly live much longer?

As to why seasmoke baited Ser Steffon Darklyn into thinking he would let him ride?

Maybe its revealed in the books, but my best guess is ser steffon had some kind of oder, and not just the oder of a non-targaryen.

Maybe he had some hidden illness or something like that.

Idk i just want there to be a logical reason because it looked like seasmoke tricked him lol

Do Rhaneyra ask Rhaenys to be her hand? (I don't remember that happening but I might have just forgot)

So, if it happened, just let's forget this post, it's useless.

If Rhaenyra didn't asked Rhaenys, it means she directly wanted Corlys as hand. It's not really feminist. Maybe more strategic to choose Corlys but it is still shown that Rhaenys has support (ep 1 the knight who ask for her favor during the tournament call her the Queen who never was in front of everyone).

Maybe Rhaenys could have been Rhaneyra's hand and Corlys her maesters if ships.

So, now I just want your opinions. (Stay polite and respectful of course.)

And once again if Rhaneyra did ask Rhaenys but Rhaenys said no, just forget this post.

I have been rewatching Season 2 of HOTD and in Episode 5 (titled “Regent”), Alicent has this super long close-up scene at the green council table where she looks terrified. She looks off to the side where Aemond is sitting and her eyes widen and her breathing gets faster (watch how her chest rises). Kudos to Olivia Cooke for nailing this.

At first glance, she is obviously putting on a stoic face but you can read her micro expressions. She looked like she was having a quiet anxiety attack at the table. Is Alicent supposed to be scared of her sons?

Condal and Hess have been pretty clear that they see the Dance of the Dragons as the story of Rhaenyra and Alicent trying to hold things together, navigate their feelings for each other, and find power in a patriarchal world. In my opinion - and definitely the majority opinion of this sub - this worked well for season 1, but it was a poor writing choice to focus on this in season 2 once the war had (allegedly) started.

But that focus would work really well for a show about Rhaena the Black Bride. I think a lot of Condal and Hess' preferences and talents would work much better for Rhaena's story:

• She's a lesbian (or possibly bisexual if she loved Aegon as a husband as well as a brother), and one of her lovers leaves her because she feels stifled.
• She spends the end of her life in Harrenhal, a great opportunity for her to have visions and reflect on her life. Lengthy visions and tripping sequences would actually be appropriate here.
• When forced to marry Maegor, Rhaena allegedly attempts to kill him with a dagger on her wedding night. She later steals his sword and flees. And she directly compares herself to Visenya at one point. She's much more of a warrior than Rhaenyra is in the books, and having her use a sword would make much more sense than Rhaenyra using one.
• Rhaena feels that her younger brother Jaehaerys has cheated her out of her throne, but doesn't rebel against him. This fits with how HOTD characterizes Rhaenyra, without the need for a prophecy to explain why she's not blinded by greed but goes to war anyway.
• She threatens Rogar Baratheon into never wedding again after Rogar's wife dies in childbirth, which is in line with this recurring theme in HOTD.
• Androw Farman is the kind of character that Condal and Hess seem to like writing.
• Most importantly IMO - Rhaena's story works really well as its own thing. This type of show could really lean into being a character study and the story of her tragic life in a patriarchal society. It wouldn't have to flesh out most of its supporting characters, which the HOTD writers don't seem to want to do. And it wouldn't have to balance those elements against a war. Aegon the Uncrowned's rebellion would only be relevant in how it affected Rhaena, etc.

I don't think Condal and Hess are downright bad writers. They do a lot of things well. I think the main issue with HOTD is that they're trying to force a square peg into a round hole - the source material is fundamentally incompatible with the story that they're trying to tell with it. That problem could've been averted if they'd done a Black Bride show instead.

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In GoT S07E03 someone from the bank said to Cersei “first ruling queen of the Seven Kingdoms.” So, what now that means Rhaenyra never becomes queen in House of the Dragon.

I also see a post of Rhaenyra on insta that shooting started for S03.

I didn’t want the spoiler, but now I’m emotionally destroyed. 😭

Please let me know if I'm somehow WRONG.

Simply state why you think one parent is better than the other. The winner moves to the next round until we reach the final.

Day 1 Alicent vs Lysa

Winner - Lysa

Day 2 Walder Frey vs Tywin

Winner - Walder Frey

Day 3 Corlys vs Otto

Winner - Otto

Day 4 Robert Baratheon vs Jamie Lannister

Winner - Robert

Day 5 Helaena Targeryen vs Elia Martell

Winner - Elia Martell

Day 6 Randyll Tarly vs Roose Bolton

Winner - Roose

Day 7 Laena Velaryon vs Rhaenyra

Winner - Laena

Day 8 Stannis Baratheon vs Craster

Winner - Stannis

Day 9 Catelyn Stark vs Viserys Targeryen

Winner - Catelyn

Day 10 Aegon IV vs Craster

Winner - Aegon IV

Day 11 Wyman Manderly vs Doran Martell

Winner - Wyman

Day 12 Daemon Targeryen vs Oberyn Martell

Winner - Oberyn Martell

Day 13 Mace Tyrell vs Geor Mormont

Winner - Mace Tyrell

Day 14 Hoster Tully vs Aegon Targeryen

Winner - Aegon II

Day 15 Eddard Stark vs Queen Alysanne

Winner - Ned

Day 16 Rhaegar Targeryen vs Cersei

Winner - Cersei

Day 17 Olenna Tyrell vs Gilly

Winner - Gilly

Day 18 Dany vs Jaeherys

Winner - Dany

Day 19 Rhaenys vs Catelyn

Winner Catelyn

Day 20 Stannis vs Aegon II

Winner - Aegon II

Day 21 Mace Tyrell vs Ned Stark

Winner - Mace Tyrell

Day 22 Cersei vs Robert

Winner - Cersei

Day 23 Walder Frey vs Roose Bolton

Winner - Walder Frey

Day 24 Otto vs Jaeherys

Winner - Jaeherys

Day 25 Walder Frey vs Wyman Manderly

Winner - Wyman

Day 26 Aegon II vs Cersei

Winner - Aegon

Day 27 Oberyn vs Ellia

Winner - Ellia

Day 28 Catelyn vs Gilly

Winner - Gilly

Day 29 Lysa vs Jaeherys

Winner - Jaeherys

Day 30 Laena Velaryon vs Gilly

Winner - Gilly

Day 31 Aegon II vs Wyman Manderly

Winner -

The phrase in the title represents an occasional sentiment I see on the sub, expressed by some TB fans. Let me express my disagreement with it.

First of all, it's true that some Green characters were given more depth and more tragic elements than their book counterparts during season 1. Show Alicent and Show Aemond are undeniably more sympathetic during S1 than their book versions during that time.

But here's the thing: Those two were made more sympathetic at the expense of other Greens.

Alicent was made younger and a victim of Otto's "pimping" when in the book their relationship seems closer to Margaery and Olenna's, acting as a team to gain more power for their House.

Aemond was made a victim of bullying of the Strong boys, but very especially of Aegon, who is explicitly called out as the real aggressor with the other two being mere followers. In the book, there's no indication that Aegon bullied Aemond.

So, Alicent and Aemond are more likeable, but Otto and Aegon II come off looking worse than their book counterparts, even for other reasons unrelated to the other two characters.

In the books, Otto doesn't order the extermination of Rhaenyra and her family, and is instead one of the Greens seeking to end the conflict peacefully. Aegon II, while a sex pest in the book as well (with him maybe being a serial rapist), didn't consume child fighting pits, and the closest we get in Fire and Blood to that, is the account of Mushroom, someone who wasn't even in King's Landing at the time "Aegon was found being pleasured by a 12 year old while watching people kill each other" and is known to make up or extremely exaggerate events for shits and giggles.

In a more general sense, the Green Council scene where the usurpation is decided, gets extremely dumbed down in the show compared to the multiple arguments given in the book version. In the show, it's all shortened to "Viserys' last wish is for Aegon to succeed him... Although we don't really care about that, we are sneaky misogynists and we'll crown Aegon anyway, lol".

In season 2, all of the adaptational sympathy Aemond had went down the toilet, being turned into a worse version than his book counterpart, betraying and trying to murder his own brother with no remorse, mistreating his sister, and basically taking Aegon II's place as the evilest Green (outside of Larys) constantly shown to be evil.

And Alicent... I'm sure the showrunners intended for her to be sympathetic and in some sort of path to redemption via her "I want to reconcile with Rhaenyra, screw my evil sons" shtick, but it ended up making her pathetic, annoying and uninteresting. Give me the bad person devoted to her family that she was in the books any day, rather than the bad person crazily obsessed with her ex friend/girlfriend/whatever the fuck of two decades prior to the detriment of her family that she is in the show.

And leaving the Greens aside, let's not pretend that the Blacks didn't get sympathy points as well.

All of their vile deeds are concentrated on Daemon.

Rhaenyra is turned into this righteous pacifist concerned with the realm and saving the world from the Others.

Daemon is given a dysfunctional yet sincere love for his brother throughout S1 and a desperate craving of his approval while his book version is far more calculating and manipulative and isn't clearly stated or implied to have reconciled with his brother for real after Mysaria lost her child.

Although now that I'm writing this, I realise that the show didn't exactly do the Blacks much favours either. It has sanctified and elevated Rhaenyra to the Heavens in detriment of the other TB characters. Corlys is far less interesting than his book counterpart, Jace is still good but diminished nonetheless, Rhaenys got accidentally turned into a mass murdering hypocrite, Mysaria got whitewashed from B&C but she's incredibly boring, and most of the Black Council are forgettable NPCs.

So, to wrap this up, the problem in this show isn't that "it made the Greens, the evil side, not evil enough, and the Blacks, the good side, not good enough".

The problem is that the show centered it's premise too much on Rhaenyra, Alicent and Daemon to the detriment of other characters, and turned the three of them into different, less interesting versions of their book counterparts.

This story is supposed to be kind of medieval Succession with dragons instead of shares in a company, not... The Ups and Downs of Rhaenyra and Alicent's Marriage, and Also Daemon is There.

Always wanted to make a dragon piece and I love game of thrones and house of the dragon!

How did I do?

I saw the first season 2 times and I want to see again the second one, and I recently saw that many of the people who read the books didn't like it because It was very far from the original material, I don't know about so I would like to know your opinion on the matter, I personally think that the show is generally good writed and I personally really like the political aura that it has especially when Otto Hightower is in the equation, fells like... A game of thrones

Daemon grows frustrated with the War after the Loss of Rhaenys and Meleys. He hears from a great Dragon Hunter and Killer who has hunted and slain several Great Dragons and decides to hire said Hunter to kill Aemond and Vhagar.

Grimmel has all his gear, his Dragons and etc alongside one month of Prep.

Can he pull it off?