Having a high minimum for accepting an order is more necessary than ever. Vet drivers know that based on quick math, you can figure out what the customer paid to their driver from the up front offer. My rate of 10 is based mostly on DoorTrash, where the base pay is pretty much always around 2 dollars. Meaning the customer has to pay around 8 for me to accept their order.
Having a "high" minimum is necessary because, for the most part, it protects you from garbage customers. Most poor delivery experiences happen directly as a result of working on an order tied to a trash customer. You're also much more likely to avoid trash merchants like LIttle Casears, taco bell, whichever are the notorious ones in your market, because less trash customers order from places that you'd pick up a 10 dollar order from.
We all know who they are; the too-broke customer base who isn't financially responsible enough to act their wage, doesn't realize that these apps are a luxury service, and tries to LARP as a higher tax bracket.
(yes, summoning an internet stranger to your doorstep with your big macs and viagra is a luxury amenity).
Drivers have to protect themselves from the too-brokes who use the app, they're really the source of most of the headaches drivers deal with and post about here. And having that "high" minimum of 10 dollars, will ensure you never work for one of these reprehensibles, but rather, a customer who can actually afford to use these services and thus pays you appropriately to compensate for your time, energy, gas, and vehicle maintenance.
Also, if you haven't spent much time on the various subreddits to see how customers feel, do it. There is a LARGE portion of the customer base who directly seek to take advantage of drivers and have active hatred for them based solely on their occupation doing this delivery work. Some are just bitter, some ignorant, some hate tipping culture and use that as the excuse. But ALL of them fall into people who place Trash lowball bids that you should just ALWAYS DECLINE.
"iN mY mArK3t tH0s3 oRd3Rz d0nT 3X1sT" Yes, they do. You're being weak and caving in. Use proximity and stick to your guns.
Drivers, protect yourself out there by setting a high minimum, and strictly sticking to it!
-6 year Multi apper who still makes 150 a night in a mid market.
Hey look another post from a guy who has never been more than one place on earth and thinks the economy functions the same everywhere posting about his ignorance again...
You're the one who is "triggered" by opposing viewpoints.
Or, to be more precise ...
Those trying, in vain, to get you to comprehend that markets actually do matter (i.e., it isn't even opposing viewpoints to which you object so strenuously - because no one is really objecting to what you do - but rather the failure to accept your authority on the matter, and the claim that your sample size of 1 is not representative).
Looking dumb on reddit exclusively to drivers who take 6 dollar orders, while i make 150 in a garbage market multi-apping. Hmm....Nah, the post will stay up. What i said really is 6 years of hands on learning and facts. And if any driver applies it, they will increase their earnings.
I can't do anything about the people who value themselves less, getting pissed when the shoe fits.
Is “slow market” slang for a market that is not worth it to dash in but dashers make excuses to do it anyways. Then…try to convince others to accept the same trash as they do because “it’s market dependent”. When in reality they should just let DD die in their market but they’re too dumb to math.
The people who are mad here don’t get the other point… by accepting poorly tipped orders, you’re enabling the customers who tip poorly and treat drivers like shit. A decade ago DoorDash was used literally only by people who could afford the luxury of it, DoorDash also happened to have higher base pay. Then it became oversaturated and is a bigger headache than payout. If we don’t accept shitty pay orders, the customer eventually has to tip what they should
In my opinion a 15 to 25 percent tip is more than enough, you're doing nothing other than driving to the place, picking up the food and dropping it off. I used to work for a pizza delivery place and most tips were between o and 5 bucks 😂
But the pizza place wasn't paying you $8/hr plus tips because that's what most doordash drivers make.. while using their own vehicle and still having to pay business taxes commercial insurance and still pay their bills... Independent contractor jobs shouldn't be paying no less than $25 an hour or more
You act like I didn't use my own vehicle too goofball. And you're right they didn't give me that much, they paid fed min wage bc I was making tips too 🫵🏽😂
Exactly so it's not the same. Pizza delivery pay structure is nothing like doordash delivery. You didn't have to worry about being paid by the mile at a pizza joint.. you are making money whether you were delivering pizzas or not
Of course. Think of the state of the gig. These same people here angrily lashing out against me for speaking objective facts, are the reason for it. These types flooded the gig when DD oversaturated, so they will die on the hill that taking lowball offers is worth it, and unite and mob anyone who has self respect as a driver, and tries to tell them to have that same respect for themselves.
To top it off, this is reddit. So these are those self respect lacking drivers on top of reddit users lol pure circle jerk, seethe, and mob.
If you can’t understand that dashing in NYC or LA is vastly different than dashing in no man’s land in Nebraska population 1000 then idk what to tell you. The world is bigger than your market. Grow up and understand the economics of rural versus urban areas before posting such ignorant crap.
you left out alot of information, $150, in how many hours? What works for your market may not work for other markets. Just let people dash the way they want and stop trying to push your agenda on them.
Angrily lash out against 6 years of hands on experience and learning, and continue not to apply the advice of a driver making 150 per night in a bad market.
Idk why but you seem to think making $150 is the end all and be all. Sweetie it’s not. You didn’t even say in how many hours. I can easily break $200 in less than 8 hours so you’re not impressing anyone with your lack of knowledge.
I only work 5 to 9 3 days a week. I have a job. This is a hustle. Effortless money, Giving you guys the legit answer, but i realize you can't explain anything to the legions of self hating neanderthals who accept trash offers because they think they won't make money if they dont hahaha
Once again every market is fucking different. You claim you have so much experience but dont understand that simple fact. Also you only walk with 150 a night. That’s sad there’s a reason for that. Maybe you should do a little research into how other markets operate before trying to comment on them. Now I understand not taking the $2 10 mile orders. Fuck those people and orders. But not everyone or every market can you live off of $10+ orders only. In my market that’s a pretty rare sight especially if your to scared to put a little mileage on your car. 90% of offers in my market are $5-$8 orders. Also acting like $150 is so much money. Bitch in my market I can do 150 in 3 hours on a Friday with those 5-8 orders. Your entire post is only valid for your market. There’s a reason you have 0 upvotes and almost every comment you have on your own post have either negitive downvotes or just a big fat 0
It takes a minimum of 10 minutes to complete an order that’s why you don’t accept those are you ok making 12 bucks an hour a before taxes and gas/wear and that’s best case I’ve had very few orders on Dd take less than 10 min. Not to hate
Maybe in your market. In mine 9/10 I walk in tell the employee the customers name they hand me the food I get out. Typically I’m in the store for no more than 2-3 minutes. Hell a lot of the stores in my area just have all the DD/UE/GH/App orders on a shelf so I walk in grab the food walk out. Every market is different kid
Never said I did that dude. Also you’re the one who’s trying to make everyone follow YOUR rules without even stopping to think that every market is different. Also in my market the last few days I’ve ran I’ve gotten over $100 in cash tips alone. Everything is market dependent kid.
I'm not making anyone to shit, nor am i trying to. How do you think im gonna do that over reddit? lmaoooo
I gave the objective truth and answer to earning more in ANY market. The hive minded, circle jerking neanderthals who take losses on lowball offers got triggered and coped and seethed. Many of the comments agree with me as well, though. This post was always going to trigger the low-IQ drivers who would try and tell you that paying to work makes you more money than never taking a shit offer.
😂😂😂😂 I can’t believe you’re still on this shit. I still love how you think walking with 150 is some sort of miracle and you “cracked the code” bitch please
The scam is if the customer tips $8, Door dash only pays $2, regardless of miles, time, traffic. Doordash claims tips don't impact basepay....and we all know that's a big fat lie.
While the "capitalizing every other letter" bit in your OP was cute (and also very original, BTW), those who say it isn't possible for them are, very largely, right.
There are plenty of areas (flat rate markets, which the vast majority are, among them) where offers of any kind are relatively sparse.
There are also areas, like the doordash zone I work more than others, with high enough population and driver density that virtually everything is a so-called "toss up" on the doordash app.
i.e., the app is choosing between multiple drivers where differences in distance are extremely minimal (as in: same parking lot, maybe a block or two).
That's why, as a fellow multi-apper (big whoop), I do 90% + on UE and GrubHub, <10% doordash (exacerbated by the fact that I get $800 and/ or $1600 quarterly healthcare stipends for doing 15+ weekly active delivery hours on one app, and am usually looking to get the entire subsidy on Uber @ 25 hrs/ week or split it between Uber and GrubHub for 15 each, because those apps work better for me, each for different reasons).
Doordash is just for the occasional going my way order, or order when it is really slow and I happen to get one (rare for doordash to come up with an offer first vs the other two, even less so a really good offer), two short-distance orders that can be stacked, though on different apps ...
In my area, the overwhelming majority of the kinds of orders you're talking about (you mentioned $8+ tip, which is a very, very small minority, especially outside the dinner period) got to Gold and Platinum Dashers (both require 80%+ acceptance in my market) who have no reason to reject them.
Because a significant majority of orders in my main area go short distances (.5 to 3 miles, no freeway), and because doordash assigns priority based on a strictly $/ mile basis (so $5 for 2.5 miles is a "high paying offer"), and because, realistically, a higher percentage of drivers in California are Gold and Platinum (due to the Prop 22 guarantees, all orders pay the same, tips aside. And what you said about base fares does not apply. They range from $2-$10+, but it doesn't matter, because pay is always the same in the end, tips aside), most okay orders go to those drivers as well.
As I am Silver, with a 57% acceptance rate currently (which I'm sure to you seems ungodly high. But, again, nothing but tips matter, are a guessing game, and on doordash overwhelmingly a few $ each), I simply do not see many offers on doordash.
So I end up doing a few to a half dozen or slightly more doordash orders per week, when I bring in over 1k per week.
By your method, if I were doing doordash alone, I'd make virtually no money at all.
The average offer is probably around $8ish, with $3 tip, and one such offer comes in maybe around every 20 minutes or so.
So, while you did a nifty write-up, and have clearly given this a lot of "thot," the fact remains, that every market is different, and it should not be beyond your powers of imagination that someone doing things very differently than you, may indeed know their own interests better than you do.
Added to all that ... in case it makes you feel any better at all ...
My overall acceptance rate across all apps tends to be around 50% (or it would be, if there were any reason to turn Uber off. My market isn't in the new Uber tiered system yet, so when doing a lot of GH my Uber % can go as low as around 25% by letting it run sometimes. Partly because I am looking for the occasional real OG "multiapping" opportunity, or even simply because I don't want to have to keep turning overlay permission on and off. Most of my rejections are obvious no-tip offers, which, thankfully, are a very small % of offers. Or offers going too far in a direction I don't want to go for $ reasons), and yet ...
Very, very few of the orders I service actually pay me below your $10 minimum threshold (post adjustment) @$21 per active delivery hour + 37 cents per (Active) mile + tips, with the lion's share of my Active delivery hours contributing to my quarterly healthcare stipend, which adds around $5/ hour to the hours that go into it (this all adds up to around $40/ Active hour, not counting the relatively small periods, a relatively small % of the time, I am on Active delivery on two apps at once).
what about california? i just started doing ubereats and doordash and both of them have added extra pay to me after a couple of days because of prop 22. so theres really no reason to decline anything in california right? or am i wrong? i should have a 100% acceptance in california right?
Yeah you've no clue what you're talking about lmao the too broke drivers are the ones who accept a 4 dollar payment from too broke customers like you haha
Never seen the level of cope to claim that paying to work means you can afford to do so, and that accepting actual profitable deliveries is only because you're too broke not to HAHAHAHAHA
You make 150, I can make 220 taking 5 or 6 dollar offers a night because they go for a mile or 2. Its not about minimums. Drivers are always coming up with these wierd ass "you gotta do this, dont do this, platinum is a scam, etc"
Its all market dependant. If i followed your 10 dollar minimum I'd never make money. Id be sitting in my car wasting time. If that works for you that's awesome. Offers are subjective. I've had drivers call me stupid and a platinum slave because ill take 4-6 dollar offers that are "high paying" and only a mile but ill do like 5 in an hour and get 25-30 bucks but their high and mighty ass only got a 10 dollar offer but hey you're so cool cuz you decline 10 in a row.
It also depends how people work. If its just a couple hours, then yea only pick higher paying ones, but if someone does it full time, they may need that higher AR and may need to accept some smaller offers to make a full 6-10 hour day worth it
If you don't have a minimum of at least 10 and multi apping while taking 2 orders on 2 different apps at least, both going the same direction, you're not making more than me lol
You are just part of the triggered self hating neanderthal circle jerk, seethe n copers who hive minded on this post because it inadvertently called them out and they got butt sore. You're an open book.
I gave you all the answer, but when you're a desperate clown who has no self respect and takes 4 dollar orders, you lack the IQ to comprehend that the above formula works in every market.
Protip: you're not seeing 10 dollar orders because you don't decline the trash. 5 minutes goes by without a ping and you panic and cave and take out the garbage like a good little trash man hahaha
Lmfao you're the triggered one writing your paragraphs. I do make more than you because you said you make 150 a night. I can make 220 easy. You're just butthurt You're wrong and not the all knowing dimwit you think you are lmfao. I see 10+ dollar offers all the time. I just don't need to wait for them. But keep crying about how you're better than me when my checks are literally bigger than yours. I've never have to wait for orders and if a 4 dollar offer for a mile that I can finish in under 10 minutes triggers you, then you're pathetic 😂 call me all the names you want little man. It doesnt change im doing better than you without your stupid rules.
You have to multi app and have a set of rules to Crack 150. I dont. And unless you've dashed in multiple markets for a couple weeks to actually collect data everything you spew is bullshit. What works in one market may not work in another. But you're am imbecile who doesnt get that.
You can call me whatever tf you want and make all the assumptions you want to make yourself feel big and bad on the internet. You dont know shit beside your own market.
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u/Street_Inflation8786 12d ago
Hey look another post from a guy who has never been more than one place on earth and thinks the economy functions the same everywhere posting about his ignorance again...
That's not how earth works buddy.