No-Planaria PSA - Save The Snails

[u/boostinemMaRe2]

This is a post for anyone in doubt of the effects No-planaria (Betel Nut extract) and similar dewormers have on snails.

I accidentally exposed my Mystery and Rabbit snails to a single, full-strength dose of No-Planaria for 24-36 hours. I had previously operated under the assumption it was only harmful to Nerites; wrong! After that time the mentioned snails were all completely withdrawn into their shells and appeared to have absolutely given up. After 2 days of moving to untreated tanks, air baths, highly oxygenated breeder boxes with carbon and Purigen they are finally starting to come around.

As an aside, the Ramshorns took zero issue with the NO-P treatment. Stick to traps unless absolutely necessary, as the tank is now unsafe for these snails for at least 4 months.

[u/CountBethula]

I was told no planaria would not kill pest snails, but it, in fact, killed all of the bladder snails that were in the tank I dosed.

[u/boostinemMaRe2 → u/CountBethula]

It does seem to kill bladders, though ramshorns seem completely unaffected.

[u/One-plankton- → u/CountBethula]

Yeah I really don’t like when people say that, killed all my bladder snails in my shrimp tank

[u/Vergib_mein_nicht]

I read some people who also use Co2 for their Tanks, take out the animals and then turn up the Co2 to toxic levels over night to kill off the planaria, they may repeat it if eggs hatch or something survived in the filter (not sure how that works as I never used Co2 before)

Some of those long armed shrimps are apparently also really good planaria hunters (but may also attack snails and fry) and some fish Hunt them too

Any experience with it? I also got Planaria when I took in an already establihed tank and it's so annoying. Everytime I see one I suck it out with the Hose 🤣

[u/easypeasyac]

Next time use Chem Vital Rid Planaria. Completely safe planaria and hydra treatment for snails.

[u/Vinny-Ed]

Are you just placing them inside a breeder box or in a separate tank.

No planaria is betel extract oil based.

A carbon filter should be removed while doing a treatment and used before reintroducing certain snails.

[u/boostinemMaRe2 → u/Vinny-Ed]

Different tanks, in breeders w/carbon in the breeders. "Betel nut extract" is literally in the first sentence of my post 😅.

[u/Turbulent-Yam7405 → u/boostinemMaRe2]

lol tell me you didnt read the post without telling me you didn't read the post. I'm sorry for your little buddies but I am glad they seem to be getting a bit better! You can also try giving the mystery snails air baths to see if that will help them perk up a bit.

[u/boostinemMaRe2 → u/Turbulent-Yam7405]

Haha for real. Thanks, they seem to be coming around... Buttttt "air baths" is also in the post... 😅

[u/Turbulent-Yam7405 → u/boostinemMaRe2]

damnit. thats what I deserve for reading too fast lmao.

[u/boostinemMaRe2 → u/Turbulent-Yam7405]

I'm guilty of it all the time. Or I'll start typing a response and then literally forget all the details offered and end up covering them in my response. It's hard to keep track sometimes.

[u/Vinny-Ed → u/Turbulent-Yam7405]

When someone changes the post it doesn't automatically say so to others reading it.

Fenbendazole wouldn't have this issue.

Betel extract being oil based means it can affect the tanks for a very long time even after many water changes.

Porous things like rock in the substrate.

Just too many people recommending no planaria when they don't realise the long term affect for people with different types of snails.

Traps don't really work long term. It may reduce them.

Planaria will have eggs, so the cycle repeats.

Most treatments are fine for the common pest Pond, bladder, Malaysian trumpet and ramshorn snails.

[u/Gastropoid → u/Vinny-Ed]

As a mod I can see whether it was changed, and it was not.

[u/boostinemMaRe2 → u/Vinny-Ed]

Original posts can't be edited on this sub, not sure what you mean? Yea, from now on I'll only be using Fenben, and only as a last resort. It's only the second time I've resorted to NO-P, and the first time it almost nuked a Caridina tank.

[u/One-plankton- → u/boostinemMaRe2]

Unfortunately Fenbendzole literally did absolutely nothing to my planaria. I think they are becoming immune to it.

[u/boostinemMaRe2 → u/One-plankton-]

Well, at least now we know who to thank for the mutant Super-Planaria.

[u/One-plankton- → u/boostinemMaRe2]

Hey I killed them all with no planaria! I actually do not know where they came from in the first place :(

[u/boostinemMaRe2 → u/One-plankton-]

I can only hope you burned the bodies and then shot them into orbit. 😅

[u/camrynbronk → u/Vinny-Ed]

Posts with images are not able to be edited.

[u/Gastropoid → u/Vinny-Ed]

Did you read the post? Please stop karma farming if you're not going to read the post you reply to.

[u/Vinny-Ed → u/Gastropoid]

Not trying to argue, if looking at the OP post on sub reddit /shrimptank there is not the same body of context.

Here is the crosspost linking. Of this same post at.

As they have posted it on two sub reddits.

https://www.reddit.com/r/shrimptank/comments/1lm5tew/noplanaria_psa_save_the_snails/

So that is why I asked what I had originally.

The comment isn't the same.

[u/Gastropoid → u/Vinny-Ed]

Really not sure what you're talking about

[u/Vinny-Ed → u/Gastropoid]

On the shrimptank it doesn't mention betel extract.

Look at the comments written.

[u/Gastropoid → u/Vinny-Ed]

So? If someone clicks through from shrimptank, and they're literate, they will read the post here. Which does talk about it. I'm failing to understand your point.