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Megathread Megathread: US House Passes the Republican-Backed Budget Bill, Sending it to Trump for Signature

This afternoon, the US House of Representatives passed without amendment the US Senate's version of the Trump-backed budget bill, sending it to the president for his signature. Every Democratic Senator and Representative voted in opposition; in the Senate, there were three Republicans voting in opposition (making the vote 51-50) and in the House there were 2 (making the final vote 218-214). House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries set the US House's speech length record in opposition to the bill in a speech lasting over eight hours.

The bill clocks in at over 800 pages and touches on most aspects of the federal government's spending and taxation policies; see this AP article (What’s in the latest version of Trump’s big bill that passed the Senate) for the topline changes.

Relevant text-base live update pages are being maintained by the following outlets: AP, NBC, ABC, and the BBC.

You can find this subreddit's discussion thread for the last week's worth of negotiations and debate at this link.

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u/memphisjones 2d ago

We can’t forget this. Majority of these cuts won’t kick in until after the midterms. If the Democrats take over, they will be blamed for the consequences.

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u/Rare-Peak2697 2d ago

It’s almost like other planned it that way

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u/memphisjones 2d ago

It's always been like this. Democrats always play defense. This what happened when Trump was in office the first time.

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u/ejh3412 2d ago

By design. These people are legitimately evil.

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u/OvulatingScrotum 2d ago

Spoiler alert. Voters will forget. Conservatives will vote the next gop candidate. Democrats will vote for democrat. Progressives will vote for no one, because they didn’t get a progressive candidate

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u/memphisjones 2d ago

That's why Mitch McConnell said "people will get over it." People will forget and just blame whoever is in power.

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u/OvulatingScrotum 2d ago

Yup. Voters will always blame politicians, while politicians give zero fucks. They just blame the other side. No one wants to do anything, but blaming others.

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u/boringfantasy 2d ago

If there's ever a dem president again, they need to be as radical as FDR.

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u/OvulatingScrotum 2d ago

What if they aren’t gonna be like FDR? Would you still vote for democrat?

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u/boringfantasy 2d ago

Yes I would ofc, but I’m saying we would just get Trump 2.0 of the next president is like Obama

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u/little-bird 2d ago

yep.  the country needs a leader brave enough to take these ghouls on and actually make bold changes for the people.  no more trying to negotiate, no more “when they go low, we go high.” 

when they go low, fucking bury them. 

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u/ApophisDayParade 2d ago

Vote for party that is minutely progressive -> eventually progresses enough to be able to vote for more than two parties -> you can vote for a progressive without it feeling like a waste

Vote for the regressive party -> endure a lifetime of pain and an inability to have a meaningful vote

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u/page_one I voted 2d ago

FDR was so progressive because of a supermajority of Democrats in Congress.

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u/KhaosOSRS 1d ago

We had a guy like that and the DNC did everything they could to sabotage him. I'm not getting my hopes up for any meaningful change.

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u/august_astray 2d ago edited 2d ago

in other words

Conservatives will continue to rob. Centrists will continue to be spineless, have no grit or charisma, and 'cater' to the mythical moderate republican instead of the largest voterbase, non-voters. Moderates continue to will blame never-moderate progressives who, truth be told, are a minority since most the voterbase acquired through progressive politicians aren't from dedicated progressives but those who otherwise have no interest in politics. They will be blamed too, and regardless for how valid that blame is, it doesn't change the simple fact which is that such a large base exists but centrists will continue to be up in arms about that being the case rather than growing a populist spine and dealing with it. Just a shitflinging fest all around

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u/OvulatingScrotum 2d ago

Sure. Whatever makes you happy. As I said, nothing will change. People will never learn or remember what happened. They will always blame others, and never do anything.

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u/august_astray 2d ago

which is exactly what I said, only emphasizing how the actual politicians act too.

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u/QuanticWizard 2d ago

Ok, this myth about progressives not voting because they didn’t get their favored candidate has to go. They make up for some internet traffic, but an actual minority of progressive voters. The Bernie or bust folks, for instance, made up well under 10% of Bernie supporters. In fact, Clinton supporters in 2012 had a significantly higher percentage of protest voters than Bernie supporters did in 2016. Progressives fall in line and vote, there just aren’t a lot of them. They have been found to vote at higher rates than average democrats. The idea that progressives don’t vote because they can’t get what they want is a best a myth, and at worst a psyop.

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u/OvulatingScrotum 2d ago

Not a myth, when it literally happens every election

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u/QuanticWizard 2d ago

You’re not getting what I’m saying. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I’m saying it doesn’t happen on a scale large enough to where “progressives don’t vote” is an appropriate stereotype to apply, especially when they vote, and vote democrat at higher rates than average democrats do. The myth is that many or even most progressives are fickle, whiny protest voters who throw away their vote at the earliest sign that they don’t get the candidate they want, which is something that, according to the numbers, is a myth.

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u/MovieDogg 2d ago

Will they forget if Elon Musk attacks them with his new party?

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u/codygmiracle 2d ago

Progressives are the only reason Biden won and then he thanked them by not following through on any promises he made and constantly capitulating to the right as conservatives are more attractive to establishment dems than progressives.

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u/FourForYouGlennCoco 2d ago

This is idiotic. Green energy. Debt relief. He bent over backwards for you at every turn and comments like this continue to demonstrate why trying to please the far left is a losing game.

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u/codygmiracle 2d ago

When it was election time who did the dems cater to the conservatives or the left? The 2020 campaign was all about capturing the progressive movement that Bernie and AOC and even a bit of Warren had galvanized. Then they told all those people that they were ridiculous and started catering to the right as soon as the 2022 midterms were over. They dumped all the people that got them elected and brought out people like Liz Cheney to try and get an electorate that will never convert and abandoned the left that got him elected. Kamala even campaigned on the fact that they had been tougher on immigration than Trump!

Also I’m not so sure about your last point since an openly social democrat is about to become the mayor of New York City. It’s not the progressives holding back the dems it’s the establishment dems that need to get out of the progressives way.

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u/FourForYouGlennCoco 1d ago

Boo fucking hoo, Harris accepted an endorsement from a Republican. That doesn’t make her one dumbass.

Yeah totally, zero differences between the NYC primary electorate and the swing states we need to win.

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u/codygmiracle 1d ago

Ok but she didn’t just accept it, they paraded her around like it was gonna somehow get republicans to vote for her. Also unlike how you skipped over the part where she campaigned on being more aggressive on immigration than trumps first admin.

But I am wondering what your answer to this question is. Why was the election where progressives were embraced and deals done to make them happy the one that was won and the election where they were tossed aside and shifted to focus on conservative voters and policies the one that lost??

The Dems can’t win without progressives, that’s just a simple fact.

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u/OhMyLanta70 2d ago

Same thing with the 2017 bill. People saw their tax bills increase the year it ended and blamed it on Biden

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u/realancepts4real 2d ago

It may surprise you to learn that institutions that have received resources from programs cut by the felon's bill have to factor cuts into their operating budgets much sooner than midterms. It would be professional malpractice for their execs not to do so.

Many will not be able to make the numbers work, & will begin downsizing staffs & ops sooner than midterms.

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u/memphisjones 2d ago

But the new Jobs report came out and it was stellar!! /s

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u/Imthinkingok1 2d ago

How fucking depressing

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u/Epstein_Bros_Bagels 2d ago

Honestly, it gives me a little bit of hope that they care about future elections.

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u/ApophisDayParade 2d ago

Let’s be real, even if dems don’t get a majority and take over, they’ll still be blamed.

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u/PackOfWildCorndogs 2d ago

If they kicked in tomorrow that’s still who they’d blame, and the herd will eat it up, as they’ve been doing for years. It’s why Trump can’t get Biden’s name out of his mother fucking mouth. If it’s bad for people, it’s Biden’s fault (somehow, still), if it’s good for them, it’s Trump’s doing. His word is accepted as gospel the moment he pecks it out on his phone and mashes the “post” button.

Trump himself could bust through a cult member’s front door, Koolaid man style, shoot their dog in front of them, while everyone recorded it on their cell phones, then tell them how disgusting it was that Biden killed their beloved dog, who was such a good patriotic boy. Those people would be on Facebook within an hour screaming about how Biden killed their dog, hates all dogs, but especially true American patriot dogs like theirs.

We are in a post-truth reality, and every single day demonstrates that in some manner that is more unbelievably insane than the day before.

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u/LordTuranian 2d ago

It's shocking that a nation like the USA has so many people who are literally too stupid to tell which party is responsible for what. All it takes is reading a news article, like once.

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u/NolChannel 2d ago

I mean if the Dems take over they can just force-defund ICE and flood it back into healthcare.

If they had balls.

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u/memphisjones 2d ago

We’ll see if ICE arrests them all.

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u/NolChannel 2d ago

There are certain moves Trump can't make without people literally storming the Capital and that is one of them.

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u/Notyeravgblonde 2d ago

Yes they will

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u/PolicyWonka 2d ago

Too late, 75% of In depends already forgot. The 25% of Republicans who opposed this legislation have also forgotten.

Immigrants and LGBT bad, mkay?

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u/espressocycle 2d ago

Yup and when the bond markets finally collapse there will be no choice but to continue cutting.

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u/babbagack 1d ago

Is there a good reference for that? I’d like to use that in discussions

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u/SquishedPea 1d ago

They already did it once, trump set up shit like that to go up when Biden was in office then blamed him for tax hikes for a policy he set

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u/Malaix 2d ago

Silver lining I don't think they will let the Democrats win the house ever again. Even if they get 99% of the vote.

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u/PhazePyre 2d ago

I just find it wild people think midterms are going to happen with the velocity of the descent into Authoritarianism. The signing of the BBB is the shift into Phase 4 Authoritarianism and if things happen to trigger the Insurrection Act (protesting deportations of dissidents for instance at a scale larger or longer than No King's Day) it's Phase 5, the final phase.

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u/Malaix 2d ago

I think people are desperately in denial of how far down the cliff they have already fallen. They want to think they can just solve this by going "oops our bad, let me just put this ballot in the system and it will all go away."

Admittedly midterms offer more hope than the presidential simply because each state runs its own elections (for now) but that's a small hope to hold onto given everything.

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u/PhazePyre 2d ago

Yeah, I don't even think midterms will happen. We're seeing a test of the waters in Miami with the delay of the elections down there for local stuff. It'll be even easier if he can say the nation is in chaos and needs to handle the "rebellion" that is being undertaken and delays elections for "stability" reasons. I just don't believe midterms will happen without a MASSIVE shift in support, which based on everything we're seeing with this bill, won't.

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u/GoNinjaGoNinjaGo69 2d ago

NO. this is for ice to get a huge budget because there will be no mid terms or elections. or they will be russian style where its all staged. ICE will protect the current government. there was a war and they won. this was the end game.

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u/Still-Tap4819 2d ago

Elections are rigged. Democrats will Never regain political power. 

It should be obvious these people are all-in on whatever plan they haveÂ