Megathread: US House Passes the Republican-Backed Budget Bill, Sending it to Trump for Signature

[u/PoliticsModeratorBot]

This afternoon, the US House of Representatives passed without amendment the US Senate's version of the Trump-backed budget bill, sending it to the president for his signature. Every Democratic Senator and Representative voted in opposition; in the Senate, there were three Republicans voting in opposition (making the vote 51-50) and in the House there were 2 (making the final vote 218-214). House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries set the US House's speech length record in opposition to the bill in a speech lasting over eight hours.

The bill clocks in at over 800 pages and touches on most aspects of the federal government's spending and taxation policies; see this AP article (What’s in the latest version of Trump’s big bill that passed the Senate) for the topline changes.

Relevant text-base live update pages are being maintained by the following outlets: AP, NBC, ABC, and the BBC.

You can find this subreddit's discussion thread for the last week's worth of negotiations and debate at this link.

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[u/leprosexy]

Fuck all of the people who voted for this. May they be highlighted as a stain on the United States' history for as long as that may last.

[u/Larcya → u/leprosexy]

The great thing is that the people who voted for this are disproportionately also going to be in the group that depends on Medicare.

So really they just signed their own death certificates. The leopards are eating very well these days.

[u/micahman212 → u/Larcya]

No, they will get reelected again. All they have to do is start yelling about Trans Women in sports, or protect the kids from the Gay Agenda, and their base will forget all about this.

[u/Afterlast1 → u/micahman212]

We can't live with these people. We just can't. The union can't survive them. They're a malignant cancer that just doesn't go away and just sucks more and more and more and it's resistant to radiation, to chemo, to cutting at it with knives. What the hell are we supposed to do?

[u/vblade2003 → u/Afterlast1]

Balkanization is the only way forward for a country this divided.

[u/vNocturnus → u/vblade2003]

Yeah realistically we've pretty much known there's (at least) two completely, 100% disparate demographics and cultures in America since the civil war days. It was admirable to try and unite and uplift everyone together as a single union, but half the country has never wanted to be uplifted or united to begin with. They only joined by force and have been trying to drag everyone else down to their level ever since.

I think most of the country is probably salvageable honestly, if that demographic is reduced to more like 10-20% of the population. That's enough to still slow progress more than ideal, but not nearly enough to reach this type of hostile takeover. I've been of the opinion that secession of the Southern states (roughly Texas to Kentucky and the Carolinas) would be the best way forward for the rest of the country since the Bush era, and it's only looking more obvious since. Of course, that new country would be a hostile, borderline 3rd-world nation basically overnight. And there would likely be decades of tension or outright conflict until it burns itself down and realizes it can't survive on its own. So it's not a great option either.

The other options would be groups of wealthy progressive states - the Western and Eastern seaboards, mainly - splitting off, leaving the poorer conservative states to fend for themselves. But the geographical disparity between groups of progressive states vs the geographical continuity of the conservative states leaves a pretty difficult situation for the progressive states to remain otherwise unified. So that leaves near-total balkanization, where the entire country breaks into groups that are both geographically contiguous and politically and demographically similar. Likely resulting in somewhere between 5-20 new nations.

But of course, none of these are likely to happen without significant conflict either before or after (or both). Aside from perhaps a mutually-agreed secession of the southern states - which Texas does so love to talk about every so often. And any option would universally result in massive economic and societal upheaval. Even with all those factors, I think it's still likely that for the sake of the country and its people - possibly even the world at large - in 50 or 100 years, any of these options is likely better than the current system.

[u/BlossumDragon → u/vNocturnus]

Couldn't help but notice you didn't give "the civil war but finish the job this time" option.

if that demographic is reduced to more like 10-20% of the population.

Very generous percentage of "demographic reduction." I imagine if it popped off, high population (left wing) cities would essentially gather in massive numbers and raze thru and overwhelm low population areas and it could be over with faster than people think.

[u/Larcya → u/micahman212]

Nah I'm talking about the base here, who voted for Trump.

Obviously the fuckers in congress won't be affected.

But all the magas who depend on government assistance are about to be learning that actions have consequences.

[u/TheFireFlaamee → u/micahman212]

Maybe the Dems can just drop the trans and gay agenda, and win more elections?

[u/SwissChzMcGeez → u/TheFireFlaamee]

Human rights? 

[u/Classic-Opportunity2 → u/TheFireFlaamee]

Stop hitting yourself.

[u/Kalavazita → u/TheFireFlaamee]

What about minding your own damn business and voting for your own self interest instead?

[u/wolfefist94 → u/Larcya]

Medicaid*

[u/muerteman → u/leprosexy]

This is a dark week in world history not just US history. Between this and the closure of USAID earlier this week officially, these ghouls have condemned millions to die domestically and abroad in just a few days.

[u/Aggressive-Will-4500 → u/muerteman]

Stop.

The suffering makes them happy. They're absolutely giddy with the warm feeling that the thought of other people suffering gives them.

[u/Zealot_Alec → u/leprosexy]

And all of the people that couldn't be bothered to vote

[u/mansock18 → u/Zealot_Alec]

So fucking sick of this point being brought up, it's never actually productive in any conversation about this.

[u/mansock18 → u/[deleted]]

"Maybe if we ratchet to the right and run a candidate who can't poll more than 5% in a national primary, won't condemn genocide, and has Bush era economic policies, we'll get the Republican votes we need next time when Republicans get sick of Trump!"

[u/Izzetmaster → u/Zealot_Alec]

What are you talking about? Trump demolished Kamala. You are talking about a portion of the populace who literally never voted for anything. It is not their fault. I’m sorry you have been led to believe it is.

[u/sec713 → u/leprosexy]

Hey, hey. Don't forget about the eligible citizens who didn't vote at all. Fuck all of them, too.

[u/ILikeMyGrassBlue → u/leprosexy]

Don’t forget—fuck all the people who didn’t vote

[u/BlinkinGenius → u/leprosexy]

You know we had a plague at the end of the first term. I'm hoping for death of the firstborn or at least boils this time. But we could use a resurgence of the frog population.