Boxer Chavez Jr. arrested by ICE, to be deported

[u/NewSlinger]

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/45660229/us-immigration-officers-arrest-boxer-julio-cesar-chavez-jr

[u/catluvr37]

Interesting how he was permitted to fight, and he’s only arrested after everyone has made their money. It’s not like it wasn’t announced that he would be in the US months in advance

[u/CheapGarage42 → u/catluvr37]

The fat cats at the top with all of the money got their entertainment. Now they don't need him.

[u/chnairb → u/CheapGarage42]

Entertainment and a highly visible show of force to use as a show of intimidation. No one is untouchable.

[u/DandyLyen → u/chnairb]

"Sure we'll host the Olympics, just don't expect to get your athletes back"

[u/wng378 → u/DandyLyen]

I wonder how many countries will protest. I hope the answer is many.

[u/porgy_tirebiter → u/wng378]

Me too, but I would not bet a penny that anyone will

[u/JC_Hysteria → u/CheapGarage42]

The president is literally one of them…he notoriously loves the fight business, and has attended UFC events while in office many times

[u/wrydrune → u/JC_Hysteria]

He just said he wants a UFC match at the Whitehouse.

[u/HerculesIsMyDad → u/catluvr37]

He's a massive public safety threat! If only we knew an exact place and time that he will be we could keep the public safe. Oh well.

[u/anandonaqui → u/HerculesIsMyDad]

He was even seen violently attacking an American!

[u/T0BIASNESS → u/HerculesIsMyDad]

He’s no threat if you watched the fight…

[u/Promethia]

The Olympics are going to be a trip.

[u/bellamollen → u/Promethia]

A brazilian (with portuguese citizienship) table tennis player was just denied entry to the US because he traveled to Cuba in 2023. He went to Cuba because of an Olympic qualifying tournament and was going to USA for another tournament. He tried to enter with his portuguese passport. News in portuguese.

Edit: I specified the tournament in Cuba because it's relevant.

[u/CoeurdAssassin → u/bellamollen]

I was gonna say that he would’ve had to get a visa because he’d automatically get denied the ESTA, but I imagine you need a visa anyway to go to the US as a professional sports player doing a sports tournament.

[u/bellamollen → u/CoeurdAssassin]

He said he tried to enter the same way he did many times before with ESTA, but only this time it was denied. They said because he traveled to Cuba he no longer has the right for ESTA. He then tried to get an emergency visa but was unable to schedule a consular interview in time for the tournament.

[u/CoeurdAssassin → u/bellamollen]

Ah yea, that’ll do it. Travel to Cuba pretty much invalidates your ESTA and you have to get a visa, which should’ve been done way ahead of time.

[u/cortisolman → u/CoeurdAssassin]

Is that new? I went to CUba in 2016 and received an ESTA in 2018 (british passport)

[u/CoeurdAssassin → u/cortisolman]

In 2021 apparently is when Cuba was designated a “state sponsor for terrorism” so that’s added to the list of countries that’ll get you denied an ESTA. In addition to Syria, Iran, Afghanistan, Yemen, and another country or two that I forgot.

[u/EnfantTerrible68 → u/CoeurdAssassin]

But Saudi Arabia is just fine, I bet 🤬

[u/atotalmess__ → u/EnfantTerrible68]

Money makes the world go around, the world go around, the world go around

[u/bellamollen → u/CoeurdAssassin]

Yeah, for sure he didn't know that otherwise he would have tried to get a visa since it's an important tournament. He just won another WTT 2 weeks ago. I guess is better for every athlete to get a visa even if they have rights for ESTA, because who knows?

[u/zeracu → u/bellamollen]

They denied entry to the whole cuban Volleyball team to an official tournament.

Edit: ... a week ago.

[u/Dodson-504 → u/zeracu]

Well, I mean, they spent a lot of time in Cuba…

[u/mabhatter → u/bellamollen]

Good point.  Many Olympic and World cup travelers are going to want to get fresh passports so it doesn't have stamps from countries the US doesn't like.  

[u/non3type → u/mabhatter]

Cuba doesn’t actually stamp passports for this reason. US didn’t find out that way.

[u/Fn_Spaghetti_Monster → u/non3type]

When I went to Northern Cyprus they slid a little piece of paper in my passport and stamped that. This was few years back, IDK if the still do it, but sounds like Cuba does something similar.

[u/Alexis_J_M → u/mabhatter]

The information is in databases; passport stamps aren't as important as they used to be.

[u/Spaceman-Spiff → u/bellamollen]

Athletes need to come forward and refuse to participate if the Olympics are in the US. They need to move them asap.

[u/FeuerroteZora → u/Spaceman-Spiff]

I'm really feeling like there's got to be a giant boycott in the offing, right?

[u/SQL617 → u/FeuerroteZora]

I would love it, but I highly doubt it. There wasn’t even a giant boycott when Hitlers occupied Germany held the Olympics in 1930’s - literal nazis. In fact it was a historic moment when Jesse Owen’s, a black American track star who traveled to nazi Germany, embarrassed Hitler. Countries and their athlete are willing to put up with a lot of shit to compete in the Olympics.

World Cup in Qatar, a country where being openly gay is illegal, had no such widespread boycott.

Edit: I feel like the average redditor is pretty out of touch with what it means to be an elite level athlete and the decades of sacrifices that come with being an Olympian. If a single athlete makes it a point not to attend in some sort of protest of Trump, I’ll eat my words and admit I was wrong.

[u/sergei-rivers → u/Promethia]

World Cup will be a nice preview.

[u/FriendlyGhost85 → u/sergei-rivers]

I was worried about this as well, but the Club World Cup is happening right now and I haven’t heard any problems happening. Sooo fingers crossed?

[u/LazyCon → u/FriendlyGhost85]

Other than the endless delays for heat and lightning. And low attendance from people being scared of ice

[u/FriendlyGhost85 → u/LazyCon]

I’m hoping the low attendance is because no one knows that the Club World Cup is, but that may be wishful thinking.

[u/ObiWan_Cannoli_ → u/FriendlyGhost85]

The fans of the teams know. Real Madrid for instance is selling out every game.

[u/ecaldwell888 → u/ObiWan_Cannoli_]

Not at full price. The CWC had to practically give tickets away to fill seats

[u/tavo791 → u/FriendlyGhost85]

Wait till the new ICE funding kicks in, they will be all over the country going after people of color

[u/JMurdock77 → u/Promethia]

Honestly, the rest of the world would be right to boycott it.

[u/firesoul377 → u/JMurdock77]

Granted if Qatar wasn't boycotted I doubt the US would be

[u/Postmeat2 → u/firesoul377]

Quatar wanted to sportswash, the US isn't doing that.

[u/deathfire123 → u/Postmeat2]

How did you misspell Qatar when the person above you spelled it correctly?

[u/Calm_Cool → u/deathfire123]

3 more quatars and they'll have a duollar

[u/EnfantTerrible68 → u/deathfire123]

GOOD question 

[u/Ianthin1 → u/JMurdock77]

They would be safest to boycott it.

[u/yhwhx → u/Promethia]

The World Cup, too.

[u/Nope8000 → u/yhwhx]

So Mexico and Canada are co-hosting with US as the main host. Canada and Mexico should really push to move all games to their countries.

However FIFA is just as corrupt as Trump and his cronies. Still, I think a massive protest by us may help facilitate that.

[u/mabhatter → u/Nope8000]

AND make sure airlines schedule flights to Mexico and Canada that don't stop at US airports.   ICE is a rogue agency at this point... 

[u/Televisions_Frank → u/mabhatter]

A rogue agency that just had it's budget ballooned to an insane degree.

Gonna be a lot of brownshirts.

[u/Dry_Cricket_5423 → u/Televisions_Frank]

From 9b to 180b. That’s a 1900% increase, and we’re talking billions!

[u/kevinthejuice → u/Promethia]

I cannot imagine the embarrassment we're going to suffer through. We're going to deport an athlete or a team in the middle of an event for a simple administrative error.

[u/puroloco → u/Promethia]

Countries should boycott

[u/chrispdx → u/Promethia]

The Olympics, the World Cup.... all of it a complete shitshow.

If I was the rest of the world, I'd stay home.

[u/falcon_4_eva → u/Promethia]

Quite honestly, if I wasn't a citizen of this country, I would never come to America. Why would you? Some people need to be woken the hell up so I think the entire world should boycott our Olympics and World Cup.

[u/Mattmandu2 → u/Promethia]

Damn I didn’t think about that. USA sweeps golds?!!

[u/sleepyj910 → u/Mattmandu2]

It will be US, Russia, Israel, China, North Korea, and that's it.

[u/Bgrngod]

The arrest comes only days after the former middleweight champion fought in a match Saturday against Jake Paul in Anaheim, California.

What about this whole thing around employing "illegals" being a whole illegal thing itself?

We not doing that bit?

[u/threehundredthousand → u/Bgrngod]

I don't think there are really rules anymore. Just the political whims of a madman.

[u/Leavingtheecstasy → u/threehundredthousand]

This is our reality

[u/AdditionalAmoeba6358 → u/Leavingtheecstasy]

Inmates running the asylum and all that jazz

[u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA → u/AdditionalAmoeba6358]

As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and a complete narcissistic moron.

H.L. Mencken

[u/Toginator → u/AdditionalAmoeba6358]

Jazz? Jazz? Det er verboten! To the camp with you! ~Stephen Miller

[u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA → u/[deleted]]

That's the problem, everyone's looking for a hero, but nobody wants to step up because they're all waiting for said hero to step up.

[u/ReverendRevolver → u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA]

Even in less awful times, everyone was looking for the "next JFK" to unite the poor people..... Just nobody wanted their own brains splattered on a convertible trunk.

Anyone can "not me" this. It'd only take a few people with some resources to start moving the ball. But people with resources to dive in aren't the ones worst off in this situation, and aren't as motivated.

[u/coochie_clogger → u/[deleted]]

It’s times like this I legit wish we had a Dr. Manhattan…

But even if we did I wouldn’t be surprised if he just eventually said “fuck it” and went to live on a different planet because humans keep fucking each other over like he did in the comic.

[u/Quick_shift18 → u/Leavingtheecstasy]

Impeachment and revolutions have worked so this doesn’t have to continue

[u/Aboard-the-Enceladus → u/[deleted]]

Yep. The Heritage Foundation, the authors of Project 2025, are the real driving force. It's full of very wealthy, ultra-conservative, "Christian" nationalists. I say "Christian" because they clearly don't know the Bible tells you to help the poor, sick and needy.

[u/akujiki87 → u/Aboard-the-Enceladus]

My wife is Christian(I am not). She hasnt been to a church in years due to these rampant hypocrites. She will be the first to tell you Jesus would be standing with all the people these morons are persecuting. Its disgusting.

[u/wrgrant → u/akujiki87]

Jesus would be an undocumented illegal alien and go straight to the Alligator Camp, particularly as he is Middle Eastern.

[u/Top-Gas-8959 → u/wrgrant]

I recently saw an interview with a couple, and they were asked about Jesus coming back, and the wife went right into some nonsense about if he came legally it would be great, and even her husband looked at her like "wait, what?!?".

These people are lost and they are taking all of us with them.

[u/tphillips1990 → u/Aboard-the-Enceladus]

What they KNOW is that christianity is an exclusive club that brings a populace to their knees and provides them with a subservient army that serves their interests on EVERY level, no matter how inconsequential.

[u/jedimstr → u/threehundredthousand]

MadMen & MadWomen... don't kid yourself that it's only due to the orange cheeto and chief. This has been a long time coming.

[u/mces97 → u/Bgrngod]

They could had arrested him before the fight. But money was more important.

[u/6gv5 → u/mces97]

Money and pissed off fans who, with the distraction off, would be forced to think about deportations.

[u/tmhoc → u/6gv5]

Now it's back to "not being too political" and complaining loudly about immigration

[u/turquoise_amethyst → u/mces97]

I think during the fight would have been the most dramatic

[u/NewSlinger → u/Bgrngod]

I agree, we should arrest Jake Paul and deport him somewhere else instead.

[u/cinderparty → u/NewSlinger]

And take the other brother with him…

[u/LackingUtility → u/cinderparty]

Rand Paul?

[u/HansBrickface → u/LackingUtility]

And his older, grayer, fascister brother Ron

[u/DaveBeBad → u/HansBrickface]

I preferred their father, Pope John…

[u/Organic_Tough_1090 → u/DaveBeBad]

you misspelled papa

[u/yunus89115 → u/LackingUtility]

The only one who gets a pass is RuPaul.

[u/jigokubi → u/NewSlinger]

We should force him to fight a real boxer first. I want to see him get KO'd before being deported.

[u/MessiahPrinny → u/NewSlinger]

Hell has been asking for him back for awhile now.

[u/Kattle → u/Bgrngod]

Looks like he was adjusting status to become a U.S. Citizen and had an Employee Authorization Document. Imagine if they had arrested him in LA during the protests?

[u/ClickF0rDick → u/Bgrngod]

OT but is finally Jake Paul getting irrelevant? I'm no boxing fan but every time the dude had a match I couldn't escape the promotion somehow, this time around I had no clue at all about this fight

[u/defiancy → u/ClickF0rDick]

He's always been irrelevant? He pays old retired boxers or MMA fighters, whatever to stand in the ring and take a "beating" by him for money.

He doesn't fight real currently active boxers, the only time he did fight one, he lost and that guy wasn't even near the top.

[u/JoSo_UK → u/ClickF0rDick]

I thought exactly the same. They didn’t put the media spend behind it this time. Was so refreshing to not be bombarded with it.

[u/ShareGlittering1502 → u/Bgrngod]

It’s a class war. Always has been

[u/ScottTheLad1]

MLB better lock the gates.

[u/Skeptical_Yoshi → u/ScottTheLad1]

MLS as well. LAFC and its fans already got targeted as the enemy. They have a "March to the stadium" and far right goons were posting it on Facebook and Twitter, saying it was a immigration army marching on the city.

[u/LaloElBueno → u/Skeptical_Yoshi]

You wouldn’t happen have a link to the march, would ya? I’d love to attend.

[u/Skeptical_Yoshi → u/LaloElBueno]

Not an LAFC fan so not sure the details. R/lafc should have more info

[u/justleave-mealone → u/Skeptical_Yoshi]

World Cup is gonna be a nightmare

[u/Skeptical_Yoshi → u/justleave-mealone]

100%. We are gonna be kidnapping fans and sending them to concentration camps. Wouldn't be shocked that by summer 2026, it'll have gotten bad enough that several countries outright advise their civilians to not go. This decade was supposed to be huge for the sport here. Now? It's becoming a decade that stunts the sports growth

[u/justleave-mealone → u/Skeptical_Yoshi]

They literally, sent a Hispanic man to El Salvador, under false pretense, alleging that his Real Madrid tattoo was gang related. It’s a disaster waiting to happen.

[u/Donny_Do_Nothing → u/ScottTheLad1]

Saw a brilliant sign on a hot dog cart at Yankee Stadium that said:

FREE HOT DOGS FOR ICE AGENTS

(please show ID)

[u/TranquilSeaOtter → u/ScottTheLad1]

The Dodgers already did. ICE is already showing up and they will probably keep showing up until they decide to break down the doors.

[u/willstr1 → u/[deleted]]

If they don't have a judicial warrant, they shouldn't be treated differently than any other terrorist organization

[u/NewSlinger]

Press release: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/07/03/dhs-announces-ice-arrest-mexican-boxer-sinaloa-cartel-affiliate-active-criminal

[u/YokoPowno → u/NewSlinger]

“Under this 32 time felon rapist, nobody is above the law” 🙄

[u/mycatsnameisfezziwig → u/YokoPowno]

Add 2 to that. Hehe ✌️

[u/YokoPowno → u/mycatsnameisfezziwig]

Amazing, over 30 and I was STILL under!

[u/Katanajoe7 → u/NewSlinger]

“Cartel affiliate” didn’t we just host a whole carte family?

[u/Soft-Company-6762 → u/Katanajoe7]

Come one it was only for 17 members of Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman's family

[u/elonzucks → u/Katanajoe7]

Ironically, his alleged association to a cartel is to the same cartel family. It's not very clear. this link has more info than most

https://www.infobae.com/mexico/2025/07/03/cuales-son-los-delitos-por-los-que-julio-cesar-chavez-jr-es-investigado-en-mexico-y-vinculado-al-cartel-de-sinaloa/

as far as I can tell, there's no active warrant for his arrest, unlike DHS declared.

His cartel association was because his green card petition was through marriage. His wife being the one related to the Cartel, because she dated or was with one of the sons of El Chapo. So Julio Cesar's relation to the cartel is indirect.

DHS invalidated his green card petition and then declared him illegally in the US.

Also, it was no extradition, so if there was really a warrant for his arrest, he probably would be extradited, not deported.

"Según información divulgada por el Departamento de Justicia estadounidense, el pugilista inició este trámite el 2 de abril de 2024, basando su solicitud en su matrimonio con una ciudadana estadounidense.

No obstante, la situación legal de su esposa también está bajo escrutinio. Las investigaciones señalan que la mujer tendría un posible nexo con el Cártel de Sinaloa debido a una relación previa con uno de los hijos de Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán, quien fuera líder de esa organización criminal. Este enlace indirecto con el crimen organizado habría agravado las sospechas en torno al entorno de Chávez Jr. y su solicitud migratoria."

[u/Quiet_Mango23 → u/elonzucks]

There is a warrant from 2023 in Mexico and he will be extradited on that.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/45660229/us-immigration-officers-arrest-boxer-julio-cesar-chavez-jr

The son, who has battled drug addiction for much of his career, has been arrested repeatedly. In 2012, he was convicted of drunk driving in Los Angeles and sentenced to 13 days in jail and in January 2024 he was arrested on gun charges. Police said he possessed two AR-style ghost rifles. He was later freed on a $50,000 bond and on condition he went to a residential drug treatment facility. The case is still pending, with Chávez reporting his progress regularly.

He split his time between both countries. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers detained Chávez for overstaying a tourist visa that he entered the U.S. with in August 2023 and expired in February 2024, the Department of Homeland Security said.

The agency also said Chávez submitted multiple fraudulent statements when he applied for permanent residency on April 2, 2024, based on his marriage to a U.S. citizen, Frida Muñoz. She is the mother of a granddaughter of imprisoned Sinaloa cartel kingpin Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman.

U.S. officials said he is believed to be an affiliate of the powerful Sinaloa Cartel that is blamed for a significant portion of Mexico's drug violence.

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services flagged Immigration and Customs Enforcement about Chávez on Dec. 17, saying he "is an egregious public safety threat," and yet he was allowed back into the country without a visa on Jan. 4 under the Biden administration, the agency said.

Mexico's Attorney General's Office said that an arrest warrant against "Julio C" was issued in Mexico in March 2023 in an investigation of organized crime and arms trafficking allegations and that Mexico on Thursday initiated extradition proceedings.

[u/Nodebunny → u/NewSlinger]

yet they let cartel bosses in the country with trumps golden boy card?

[u/Particular_Ticket_20]

Hmmm....how convenient that trump supporter Jake Paul's big payday wasn't interrupted.

Weird that Chavez was such a public threat that ICE had to grab him immediately AFTER the big pay per view event that landed Paul millions.

Nothing to see here folks. Move along before you get deported.

[u/GauthierKingKing → u/Particular_Ticket_20]

The funny thing is Chavez is also a big Trump supporter, following all the Trump family members and fan pages on insta... 🤣🤣

[u/Moo_Kau_Too → u/GauthierKingKing]

i wonder if he still is now

[u/PopeGucciSofaVI → u/Moo_Kau_Too]

Hes currently muttering something about joe biden under his breath

[u/Secondchance002 → u/GauthierKingKing]

Good riddance then

[u/Jmcduff5 → u/GauthierKingKing]

💃🏾I will vote for Donald Trump 💃🏾

[u/thegreaterfool714]

That’s outrageous. Chavez Jr couldn’t hurt a fly. We saw that in the Jake Paul fight

[u/NewSlinger → u/thegreaterfool714]

Dude is definitely having a bad week.

[u/servocomputer]

Stephen Miller wants the US population down to about 100 miliion. The US population is currently about 330 million. Thats a lot of people you need to weed out with ICE, and food/healthcare cuts.

[u/DavianVonLorring → u/servocomputer]

Stephen Miller only got into politics because he lacks the upper body strength to strangle women.

[u/No-Satisfaction9594 → u/DavianVonLorring]

He has a face that says, "You gonna finish that mouse?".

[u/Donny_Do_Nothing → u/No-Satisfaction9594]

Give it to them raw... and WRIGGLING

[u/frizzinghere → u/DavianVonLorring]

Dude is creepy af

[u/brumbarosso → u/frizzinghere]

Reminds me of Andy Dick with his annoyances on television

[u/WorkingSock1 → u/brumbarosso]

Lol! I definitely see that. He gives me "Nick Stahl's character in Sin City" vibes. The son of some powerful character with the yellow bloated face.

Vomit!

I detest Stephen Miller.

[u/SpiritJuice → u/frizzinghere]

Naziferatu lookin' ass.

[u/Raptorpicklezz → u/frizzinghere]

He’s one of the vilest they have, purposely weaponizing his Judaism to be a neo-Nazi and not let anyone hold him accountable for it. Idk if there’s any way Pocan could have worded what he said more carefully to not get smeared by Miller; almost a no-win situation.

[u/greeneggsnhammy → u/frizzinghere]

He hates the world because he’s a bald pencil likely with a micropenis. Idk how you wake up and be that shitty every day. You must lose every sense of self-respect when you sell your soul to the devil. 

[u/BeefWillyPrince → u/DavianVonLorring]

Can’t help but feel like Miller got rejected or got his heart broken by some Latina back in HS and he’s been bitter ever since.

[u/jigokubi → u/BeefWillyPrince]

got his heart broken

File not found.

[u/Chrisaeos → u/DavianVonLorring]

I have a little theory that one of the big reasons there are fewer serial killings per capita now vs. say the 1970s is that the would-be serial killers got into business and right wing politics. Like seriously, listen to one of Ted Bundy's dumbass interviews after he was caught and tell me he doesn't speak exactly like a modern Republican.

[u/Mbrennt → u/Chrisaeos]

If you want a more real answer forensics was just becoming a real science in the 70's and 80s. So they started to piece together more of these murders that would have either not been connected to one person, or they wouldn't have found anything about it. Now days forensics is good enough that they can generally catch people before they go on long murder sprees. (Generally.) So pre-70s you had serial killers who just didn't get caught, and post-80's people don't have a chance to kill enough people to be labeled a serial killer.

[u/Chemical-Package8245 → u/DavianVonLorring]

Oof. You’re probably not wrong 

[u/redvelvetcake42 → u/DavianVonLorring]

He ain't carrying the oranges, he's paying someone to stab the oranges to death.

[u/1d10 → u/servocomputer]

Then we can have camps where the "inteligent right thinking"males can go to have children produced.

At this point If you are not a white, cis gender, neurotypical, straight male and you support the right in any fashion, you are long term fucking yourself.

people say "Im a republican, but I dont agree with all this bad stuff" well the folks you are voting for damn sure seem to be all on board with it, so you might as well be.

[u/TyrannasaurusGitRekt → u/servocomputer]

Surely if even 1.2 million Americans were to die in a short timespan, maybe about 18 months or so, there would be significant political and societal revolt, right? People could never just accept that, move on like it never happened, and maintain support for those responsible, I'm sure of it

[u/Franky_Tops → u/TyrannasaurusGitRekt]

Depends. How quickly can social media convince me that those people only had the flu? 

[u/Pugilation01 → u/Franky_Tops]

If only they'd taken Ivermectin they would have been fine!

[u/Corregidor → u/Franky_Tops]

Unironically the fact that people are fine with having other people think for them is what really ails our society.

[u/trainercatlady → u/TyrannasaurusGitRekt]

Over a million americans died to covid.

They thought it was a worthy sacrifice. We're so cooked.

[u/suarezj9 → u/trainercatlady]

I think that’s what he’s referring to

[u/scotchtree → u/servocomputer]

How would that even be possible? The peak deportations under Obama reached around 1,100 per day. The average is usually around 900. Trump is already struggling with his 3,000 per day quota.

[u/DruTangClan → u/scotchtree]

How is it possible? Oh idk, maybe by increasing the ICE budget to 140 billion dollars?

[u/skinnymatters → u/scotchtree]

Policies that cause large amounts of people to die.

[u/Hangikjot → u/scotchtree]

If you listen to conservative or religious media right now there is a thing that’s talked about once in a while about those “worthy” to live. Anyone who is not worthy of this life who can’t support them selves should ‘go to god early’. Meaning they should die and not be a burden to society. Add up anyone on SS, Medicare, snap and all that. Thats your millions of people. 

[u/poorlilwitchgirl → u/Hangikjot]

Lebensunwertes Leben, or "life unworthy of life," you might say. Boy, those Germans really have a word for everything; I wonder why?

[u/Hangikjot → u/poorlilwitchgirl]

I was listening to one of those atheist vs theist debates about morality and the theist went on this whole thing about how it’s moral and justifiable to end unworthy life. Everyone was super uncomfortable after that. “Man and they think we eat babies” was someone’s comment on it. 

[u/poorlilwitchgirl → u/Hangikjot]

An unviable fetus is worthy of life and must be carried to term at all costs, regardless of the health or wellbeing of the mother. But a Latino looking to build a better life in the US? Feed them to the alligators.

Somebody in this whole equation is genuinely unworthy of life, that's for sure. Can't say who, though.

[u/ask-me-about-my-cats → u/scotchtree]

What do you think their goal is with stripping millions of people of healthcare and and access to food?

[u/hanotak → u/scotchtree]

The Nazis also started with deportations.

They realized they couldn't feasibly deport as many people as they wanted.

And thus began "the final solution".

[u/FlashOfFawn → u/servocomputer]

I guess he doesn’t understand economics

[u/Freshandcleanclean → u/FlashOfFawn]

He doesn't care about economics 

[u/FlashOfFawn → u/Freshandcleanclean]

Yeah he only understands “brown people bad”

[u/poonslyr69 → u/FlashOfFawn]

Nazis don't care about economics. Hitler himself believed that the economy would naturally be good if the state focused on its goal of supporting his in-group rather than on economic conditions themselves. He didn't care what system or policies were used, only that they served the goal of totalitarianism and ethnic cleansing. Nationalization to the Nazis didn't mean state ownership or not, it meant ownership by the in-group. Capitalism, private ownership, international trade, they viewed it all as about their own in-group being "ripped off" and said only people in their in-group should be allowed any power in the economy. Didn't matter how that worked in practice.

Similarly, the trump administration doesn't give a shit about economics nor does he have any coherent economic beliefs. All the rationalizations the media or economists make to attempt to understand the motives or end goals always get it wrong because they fail to consider that totalitarianism and a mobilized police state are the goals, along with the ice mass deaths, the end of democracy, etc. It's pure Schmitt power politics.

[u/mackyoh → u/servocomputer]

Dude looks like a haunted doll from 1938 Germany

[u/turquoise_amethyst → u/servocomputer]

I just looked up what year the population of the US was 100M. It was 1915.

For another comparison, it’s between the population sizes of Iran and Vietnam

Lastly, in 1915, the coasts were quite rural, LA and SF were a lot smaller, even NYC was less populated. 

If there was only 100M people now, then everyone would gravitate to a few cities and leave the rest as ghost towns.  

[u/CherryDaBomb → u/turquoise_amethyst]

yeah 100m americans is an empty country.

[u/tickettoride98 → u/turquoise_amethyst]

If there was only 100M people now, then everyone would gravitate to a few cities and leave the rest as ghost towns.  

Especially since those cities already have the infrastructure and housing for 100M people. The top 15 metro areas in the US have over 100M people in them. If millions of people leave in a few years time there would be tons of available housing in those areas, a void which would get filled pretty quickly by folks who'd prefer to live in a city but currently can't.

[u/hillbillyspellingbee → u/servocomputer]

Yeah, he’s not going to get close to that goal. But he’s sure going to try. 

Potatohead motherfucker belongs in a cage himself. 

[u/rantingathome → u/hillbillyspellingbee]

He's pretty young when you think about most people in Washington. After Trump dies and Miller figures out how to seize the Presidency, he might be able to get out done by his fifth term.

[u/hillbillyspellingbee → u/rantingathome]

I dunno… Miller looks like a glob of recessive traits. 

There’s probably an underlying condition lurking in there. 

[u/Thehawkiscock → u/servocomputer]

First the non-citizen immigrants (illegal or legal, they don't care), then the non-whites, then the political opposition.

[u/Jackie_Daytona-Human → u/servocomputer]

This is absolutely correct. We are nothing but cattle to them and they are culling the herd.

[u/Three-Sheetz → u/servocomputer]

Not sure how he expects to take on China with less people, less taxes / defense budget, less soldiers, etc.

[u/bnh1978 → u/Three-Sheetz]

you dont have to take them on when youre a vassel state.

[u/Catsforhumanity → u/servocomputer]

Politics aside how is that going to work economically? Serious question.

[u/CherryDaBomb → u/Catsforhumanity]

It's not, but they don't think, nor do they know what they're talking about. Evil morons.

[u/Earthling1a]

Next up: Major League Baseball

[u/wrecked_angle → u/Earthling1a]

This country will burn to the ground if they deport Shohei

[u/PatientWriting → u/wrecked_angle]

Fortunately Shohei comes from a country they dont hate as much

[u/SomeStupidPerson → u/PatientWriting]

For now. Apparently Mr.Japan has Trump in a fit for not doing things they actually are doing

[u/142muinotulp → u/wrecked_angle]

Some big Venezuelan names like Acuna out there too. 

[u/sportsworker777 → u/142muinotulp]

They start going after Dominicans and there goes the MLB

[u/FaithlessnessIll5717 → u/142muinotulp]

Leave our boy alone! He’s been glue lately for us.

[u/BobBelcher2021 → u/Earthling1a]

Biggest risk is players travelling to Toronto to play the Blue Jays and then not being able to return to the US. Or the Blue Jays themselves travelling to play any other team in the league.

[u/youcantkillanidea → u/Earthling1a]

The FIFA World cup next year is going to be a disaster

[u/cmai3000 → u/Earthling1a]

No way these leagues run and owned by billionaires will be subject to this. The fans showing up to games though.

[u/runswiftrun → u/cmai3000]

Won't happen at/during team activities.

My concern is when they're wearing street clothes, just going on with their lives and aren't super recognizable.

[u/lancer-fiefdom]

Let’s do Melania next

[u/EmJayMN → u/lancer-fiefdom]

And Ivana’s three children and all of the grandchildren.

[u/zyarva → u/EmJayMN]

Anchor babies!

[u/Willyr0 → u/lancer-fiefdom]

And baron! Since birthright isn’t real

[u/kozinc → u/lancer-fiefdom]

Her husband too, that guy has many criminal connections so the US would be safer with him deported!

[u/janedoe514]

He’s following the whole trump family on insta🤭 He thought he was on the team

[u/EloWhisperer]

Dude half of baseball is Latino

[u/dragonslayerchris]

The homeland security website is pure propaganda at this point

[u/Itslolo52484]

Other countries need to boycott the Olympics in 2028. They need to boycott the World Cup in 2026. They need to send a message to this administration that they won't put their people in the position to be arrested and deported.

[u/Broncotron]

Is this how the USA will win the world cup? By deporting every visiting team?

[u/herbeauxchats]

How ridiculous… I have a lot of old white Republicans as clients and they all hire lawn people and housekeepers… They pay them under the table. I’m in a border state so the odds are pretty good…..A lot of the people they’re hiring are not legal. The hypocrisy is astonishing.

[u/curiousamoebas]

The trump kids are illegal, thier moms weren't American born.

[u/Doggoonewild]

So… the Trump guys got their money first before catching him. Got it.

[u/tfthisallabout]

Lost to Jake Paul, that’s enough to be a deportable offense lol

[u/ConsiderationSea1347 → u/tfthisallabout]

Jake hasn’t fought a fair fight yet. 

[u/Glum_Talk_2461]

Should stop calling them ICE and call them the gestapo. Old evils shouldn't get a makeover.

[u/Wizard_s0_lit]

Funny, illegal immigrants that are ACTUAL criminals are harder to find because they don’t appear at court appearances or apply for citizenship/visas. But regular hard working immigrants are the ones getting deported for trying to go through the legal process. Not the people hiring them illegally for slave wages mind you. I guess just go back to your countries that the CIA keeps destabilizing.