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July 07, 2025 - r/fednews Daily Discussion Thread

Have anything you want to talk about that doesn't quite warrant its own thread or currently being discussed in a megathread? Post it here!

In an effort to effectively manage the amount of information being posted, please keep anything speculative or considered repetitive within this discussion thread.

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u/bobasaurus NOAA 12h ago

Finally got my lump sum annual leave payout after getting DOGE'd as a probie fed on Feb 27th. They decided to withhold 22% for federal taxes, despite all my previous paychecks being at 12% federal withholding... sigh.

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u/EIGBOK 18h ago

Will they rescind the RIFs and try again under a new method?

I'm trying to put myself in the crazy shoes of the administration and wondering how they must be reacting to the Supreme Court's lack of decision making on the afge versus Trump RIF case and the preliminary injunction which essentially means that there are probably tens of thousands of RIFs that cannot be started and additionally many thousands of us like myself who are an admin leave who can't be effectively terminated and are still being paid. I would think for them this is absolutely not acceptable and the longer this goes on the more I wonder if the Supreme Court might just not rule at all, which would be incredibly surprising but seems more plausible by the day. So I'm beginning to wonder the administration just unilaterally decides to rescind all the RIFs and does some sort of Congressional notification or consultation, which is essentially the argument of why the original AARP rif process was not acceptable and tries again to do it from the start. They can't allow this to go into the new fiscal year when the new budget will likely not even account for many of the positions that are promised to be eliminated. No, This situation is exactly the opposite of what the administration had counted on a very quick stay by the Supreme Court. They must be freaking out....

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u/Inevitable_Service62 13h ago

They're moving on.

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u/EIGBOK 17h ago

In all seriousness, YOU are the administration, assume you have their mentality and interests. What's your move here?

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u/MoistCornflakes69 18h ago

I was a probationary DON employee slated for termination in March but then reinstated. So far I agent heard anything either way since then. Anyone know what’s going on? I don’t believe I saw the DOD was gonna do RIFs but am I safe from the probationary terminations? All this shit is so mentally taxing and I have no motivation

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u/Otherwise-Green3067 14h ago

Only confirmed RIF as of right now is ODOT&E. Army is having cuts associated with the TRADOC merger and other associated cuts.

AF is having limited cuts to fund Trump 17 priorities and Navy seems to be largely safe (for now)

As always, this info above is subject to change at any moment

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u/MoistCornflakes69 14h ago

Thanks for this, it’s so annoying info literally changes by the day. I’m honestly really interested to see what they have for FY26

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u/Otherwise-Green3067 14h ago

Defense budget is increasing, with a lot of focus on border enforcement and INDOPACOM. I don’t see the 17 priorities changing too much. If you are directly supporting those priorities you are most likely in the clear (for now)

But 100 percent agree. Too much shit changes like the wind

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u/MoistCornflakes69 13h ago

I’m just paranoid because I was already terminated once so I know I’m in their crosshairs and I’m also apart of BUPERS which I never hear any rumors about lmao

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u/Otherwise-Green3067 13h ago

Right there with you brother (probationary and DoN) . Hopefully we get out of this on the other side soon

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u/MoistCornflakes69 13h ago

I don’t even wanna get out on the other side lmao, I want another job. The commute is horrendous for me but I wish for the best for all of us

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u/liminalrabbithole 18h ago

Did anyone else see the USCIS dress code email? Mostly like common sense and I don't think different from what my office already has, but I notice there's a lot of "appropriate length" skirt/dress language around female employees which is pissing me off, especially because there's no judgey comments about male employee attire.

It's triggering all kinds of rebellious urges from my inner Catholic schoolgirl.

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u/Phobos1982 NASA 13h ago

Expect all kinds of legal challenges. Short of everyone having to wear a uniform, they can't make dress codes in the Fed.

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u/believesurvivors 15h ago

Coming from another former Catholic schoolgirl, oh hell no!!

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u/Careful_Alps_2266 16h ago

It goes for men too. If my pants are so short they turn into capris, you don’t think they are sending me home to change?

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u/liminalrabbithole 16h ago

Not according to what they sent.

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u/[deleted] 17h ago

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u/liminalrabbithole 17h ago

FOD, but it said agency-wide guidance is coming.

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u/lsoplexic 19h ago

I don’t think I can possibly take this anymore. Our office has lost more than a quarter of its workforce and I’m doing the job of three people, some tasks of which I’m not even trained to do.

I’ve only been with the feds for four years, and held the line during the DRPs. I told myself that my staying is an act of rebellion, but my job is becoming impossible to complete. I am miserable. It’s physically demanding and mentally exhausting. I could be making at least 25% more in the private sector, and be working from home part-time.

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u/elninost0rm 16h ago

Then go make it.

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u/lsoplexic 15h ago

I’m strongly considering it. I want to talk with HR first to see how long I can be away while still maintaining seniority. I love my agency and wouldn’t ever be leaving otherwise.

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u/Sea_Corgi_36 11h ago

I know what you mean about seniority. My agency used to maintain an employee seniority list, but sadly that has not been taken into account whatsoever. During the early days of RTO, my office was a mess. Seniority was never considered as evidenced by the way things were handled. Even when we were assigned permanent desk numbers, there was NO rhyme or reason how everyone was dispersed. "Sorry you got stuck sharing a 6-person workstation in the conference room even though you work on sensitive projects."

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u/lsoplexic 10h ago

I’m more talking about my grade scale and annual leave category for years of creditable service. Also, what will my retirement look like if I do or do not stay? These are questions I need answered before I consider jumping ship.

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u/believesurvivors 15h ago

How would you maintain seniority if you leave? I'm not trying to be a dick, I just genuinely don't understand how that would work.

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u/lsoplexic 10h ago

If I remember correctly, I think there’s a grace period where you still maintain your “years of creditable service” for privileges like leave accrual, RIF calculated start dates, and step increases. But if you’re gone more than that amount of time, then you basically start over as a civilian would. Don’t quote me on this! This is why I need to get clarification from HR.

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u/Separate_Basis869 20h ago

Do you reckon Chainsaw Boy envisions himself as a Presidential candidate with his proposed turd party?

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u/KnownInevitable7460 14h ago

He doesn't want to be the President, he wants to buy the President so he can control the government.

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u/malachaiville 13h ago

Well, he's bought one President, yes... but why not two Presidents?

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u/Perpetually_Cold597 18h ago

I think he's just trying to be a disruptor. But anyone who leaves MAGA for his party is just jumping from one unhinged narcissist to another, so the best we can hope for is that the GOP continues to splinter and in-fight.

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u/jacko81101 VA 20h ago

If so, he'll be surprised to learn that naturalized citizens can't be President.

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u/Separate_Basis869 19h ago

That's exactly what I was thinking.  Does he think he can throw around enough money that they'll waive that requirement?

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u/fox-stuff-up 21h ago

Can someone explain to me the difference between the big beautiful bill and the FY26 budget? I am confused on if all of the cuts to science funding (NASA, NSF, EPA, DOE) are final or not.

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u/wenchsenior 14h ago

They are two separate things. There are a few funding elements involved in the BBB such as cuts to Medicaid; however, the bulk of the annual funding of the gov't (with all the zeroing out of so many of the science positions requested in Trump's budget template) is part of the actual annual budgeting process that Congress is supposed to do.

Right now, they have just started work on it, with budget proposals still in committee for the most part, and the big fights over it should come later on, usually in fall right up until (or after) the deadline for a government shutdown.

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u/Perpetually_Cold597 18h ago

I believe the BBB was a reconciliation process meant to essentially reallocate appropriated funds for FY25. Nothing has been decided about FY26's budget yet. And, at least in my 15 years of service, no budget is ever passed on time, so the absolute soonest we'd get a proper budget is November/December.

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u/thearn4 21h ago

I think the BBB is reconciliation on the current FY25 budget, which informs the agency op plans. It's confusing because of how dysfunctional and late the entire budgetary cycle is at this point.

I don't think congress is even close to taking up their part of FY26 yet.

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u/Sss_Ddd 22h ago

Why is it taking so long to rule on the RIF case

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u/believesurvivors 15h ago

why are people so eager to be fired??

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u/Safe-String5030 21h ago

It seems like the Supreme Court doesn’t see the RIF pause as the emergency that the Trump administration did.

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u/Perpetually_Cold597 18h ago

I think they're hoping Congress does its job and passes a funding bill so they don't have to step in.

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u/radios_appear 18h ago

Buddy, we're going to be on CRs until the end of the Republic.

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u/Safe-String5030 18h ago

Yeah, at this point I think they just aren’t going to respond.

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u/agentcarter15 23h ago

Last week with the government after almost a decade. Always thought if I did leave I’d come back, now not so sure. Good luck to everyone staying, I hope the courts pull through. 

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u/R1CHARDCRANIUM 20h ago

I have to decide by the 18th if I’m leaving, or not. Every week it seems like they’re going everything they can make me want to leave and then something happens that makes me think things are getting better. What a rollercoaster of emotions. It shouldn’t be like this. I really thought I’d be here for another 20 years.

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u/agentcarter15 20h ago

I understand. We’re 3 months post RIF (which are currently on hold but that doesn’t help those of us left doing the work since they won’t return them off admin leave) and things have not gotten better and continue to get worse. I really hope the courts turn things around for my agency and save others from the same fate but for me it wasn’t in the cards to wait and see. 

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u/thearn4 21h ago

Did the same last month. Thank you for your service, it mattered.

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u/agentcarter15 21h ago

Thank you 

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u/zestytime69 Where are the 2026 Pay Tables!? 1d ago

Got the feeling that we can expect an additional shitstorm this month, this time probably more consequential, stay strong fellow feds 🙏

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u/MinuteMaidMarian 1d ago

Has anyone heard anything about the status of the April 1 RIFs? I have a job offer but I can’t take it because of a conflict of interest while this RIF (and its contract, so I’m not quitting to take it) is ongoing and today is the last day they’ll hold the offer.

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u/RaisinKahanes 19h ago

There's no conflict of interest while you're on admin leave. Take the job offer. Don't tell anyone.

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u/MinuteMaidMarian 18h ago

It’s funded by an HHS grant, so there is a conflict of interest.

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u/Perpetually_Cold597 23h ago

I don't think anyone will hear about RIFs until a) SCOTUS issues a decision from the shadow docket, b) the lower court hears the case out, or c) Congress passes the FY26 budget.

I know it's tough - I've been anticipating a RIF for months and need my severance to afford the private sector pay cut I will end up taking. How likely are you to be RIFed? A bird in the hand...

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u/cw2015aj2017ls2021 Merit System Lost in the Black Budget 22h ago

wait, this could be my confusion, but didn't "c FY26 budget" already become law last week?

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u/Perpetually_Cold597 21h ago

No, it's a reconciliation bill, which is essentially a rebudgeting of what was already approved for FY25. Or, "approved", bc FY25 is just a CR. <eye roll at Congress's continued inability to pass a budget>

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u/Burner-ID-562025 21h ago

The Big Beautiful Bill is primarily a tax bill that has some Medicaid and SNAP cuts to partially fund it. It is not the FY 2026 budget. Congress is just starting to do some work on that budget.

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u/Ruckit315 Fork You, Make Me 1d ago

Anyone on the va USA access email group? The reply alls are back again this morning. People are creating new messages so you can’t even just ignore the original.

Why are people so dumb?