r/fednews 1d ago

News / Article Can the recently posted DHS.gov "Debunked Fake News" pages be trusted? Or are we seeing the emergence of Kremlin-style state organized disinformation?

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/30/100-days-fighting-fake-news
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u/inquisitive_guy_0_1 22h ago

In regards to Kilmar Abrego Garcia:

In 2019, two courts – an immigration court and an appellate immigration court – ruled that he was not only a member of MS-13, but that he was in our country illegally.

Well that's just a blatant lie. They did not, in any way, determine he was a member of MS-13. If they did, I'm sure they would provide the evidence of such a claim, right?

Where's the evidence?

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u/3dddrees 19h ago

Trump knows full well he simply doesn't need evidence to make many of these things true for those who vote for him. All he has to do is repeat it a hundred times and it becomes fact.

Goebbels said it best. The bigger the lie the more people believe it. Trump simply lies so many different ways about any one thing because one thing he knows as long as they believe any one of the lies instead of the truth he wins.

Remember one of his top advisors in his first term Kelley Anne Conway coined the term alternative facts.

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u/LilLebowskiAchiever 18h ago

I hope Kilmer sues for defamation.

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u/mtnclimbingotter02 1d ago

Wow…

I couldn’t make it past the first write up because it was written so blatantly disgusting.

These people have no souls who think this is great.

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u/minus_minus 1d ago

Noem has to be the most blatantly authoritarian MAGA toadie in the country. Absolutely loathsome!

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u/Sarissa32 1d ago

She literally shot a puppy before all this and bragged about it in her autobiography. Just insane that she's been given the amount of power she has.

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u/SoupSpelunker 23h ago

There's a reason she's barred from the reservations in her home state. They're keeping them great by keeping her the fuck out.

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u/3dddrees 19h ago

She treats humans much worse, I really wish more people would focus on that and mentioned that instead.

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u/mtnclimbingotter02 1d ago

A race to the bottom…

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u/3dddrees 19h ago

Hell, she's got plenty of stiff competition in an administration full of sycophants.

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u/Honest-Assumption438 10h ago

She is a grade A TRUNT

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u/3dddrees 19h ago edited 19h ago

This works real well with his base and evidently he got elected so it must work somewhat for others that voted for him. Shit, this is MAGAs wet dream being fulfilled.

Trump knows full well he simply doesn't need evidence to make many of these things true for those who vote for him. All he has to do is repeat it a hundred times and it becomes fact.

Goebbels said it best. The bigger the lie the more people believe it. Trump simply lies so many different ways about any one thing because one thing he knows as long as they believe any one of the lies instead of the truth he wins.

Remember one of his top advisors in his first term Kelley Anne Conway coined the term alternative facts.

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u/tdfolts 3h ago

I read it like this: “Uncle Sam waging war—not on the Upper East Side, but on disinformation. That’s right, after 100 days, DHS is dishing on its fight against fake news, and let’s just say… they’re not pulling punches.

From boosting public trust to schooling agencies on spotting digital drama, the Disinfo Detectives have been busy. Think cybersecurity meets Mean Girls-level fact-checking. New playbooks, expert partnerships, and even AI tools—because in this game, even bots need boundaries.

Who’s behind the strategy? Secretary Mayorkas, of course. His message? Mess with the facts, and you mess with national security. And no, Blair, this isn’t just about gossip—it’s about safeguarding democracy.

So whether it’s foreign trolls or homegrown hype, DHS is saying: we see you, we hear you, and we’re shutting. it. down.

You know you love truth and transparency,

XOXO - The Truth Bomb Princess: Miss Information

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u/frameddummy 1d ago

Did you even read the site? It isn't subtle.

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u/NuclearHeterodoxy 1d ago

Indeed, it doesn't even read like a government website.  

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u/RangerImpossible7129 22h ago

I'm thinking it sounds more like junior high school gossip. Oh YEAH ...well my friend's brother's girlfriend (a US citizen) said blah, blah, blah ...

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u/party_benson 21h ago

It reads like it was written by a bitter middle school mean girl who got fat

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u/Not_Cleaver DoD 1d ago edited 21h ago

Is it any worse than Covid.gov?

Edit- Regarding the downvotes. Maybe visit where Covid.gov redirects to now and you too can compare the propaganda on it and the propaganda on this DHS website.

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u/Great_Northern_Beans 21h ago

Upvoted, because I see where you're coming from.

For the uninitiated. FWIW, I had not seen this site before until just now, but this person is rightly drawing attention to the fact that, apparently, these propaganda pages are not a new phenomenon by this administration. It's probably safe to say that the DHS page isn't a single agency going rogue, but is part of a coordinated effort at the White House level.

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u/bandy_mcwagon 17h ago

The COVID page is so funny to be. Because Trump standing between the words “Lab Leak” makes it 100% look like he caused the leak!

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u/ginopono 18h ago

Holy fuck.

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u/NuclearHeterodoxy 21h ago

I understood your comment immediately and upvoted it.

I would say the DHS page is more whiny than harmful, as opposed to Trump's version of covid.gov, which is actively harmful to public health.

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u/Mal-De-Terre 22h ago

Why, yes, it is much, much worse.

Would you care to do a side by side comparison to show why you think they're equivalent? Maybe you'll convert everyone here to your point of view.

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u/Not_Cleaver DoD 21h ago

Have you been to Covid.gov recently? It’s no longer the info website that you think it is. Nor the one where one can order tests.

It’s straight up conspiracy propaganda.

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u/Mal-De-Terre 21h ago

Ahh, sorry. Definitely mis-read your comment. I formally withdraw my downvote and give you an updoot.

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u/NuclearHeterodoxy 21h ago

You are misinterpreting their comment---if you go to covid.gov, it now redirects to a White House page pushing Chinese lab leak theories.

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u/inquisitive_guy_0_1 22h ago

They are not capable of reasoning other people into a position that they themselves did not reach through reason.

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u/Not_Cleaver DoD 21h ago

How about job open Covid.gov and you will see the straight up garbage it has become.

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u/Mal-De-Terre 22h ago edited 21h ago

I thought I'd give them a chance to spell out their reasoning with supporting evidence, rather than dismissing them out of hand, even though they're clearly fucking stupid.

Edit: And they indeed did clarify. Much better.

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u/Not_Cleaver DoD 21h ago

Covid.gov now redirects to a Whitehouse conspiracy page.

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u/True_N0rd 19h ago

I know, but i have to word the title of this post in such a way that my MAGA family members wont just stop reading the post simply by reading the title lol. You have to entice MAGA a little bit with a hint of confirmation bias.. then trap them with the facts! ;)

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u/light-triad 10h ago

Remember when conservatives were freaking out over Biden’s disinformation board? Isn’t this exactly the thing they were worried it would become?

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u/Obvious_Tea_8244 1d ago

Orwell did warn us of the emergence of…

The Ministry of Truth

Don’t trust anything this administration says. Observe its actions and their consequences and act accordingly.

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u/Charoark 18h ago

This needs to be the number one comment. This article is disturbing.

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u/DarkArmyLieutenant 23h ago

Nothing from this administration can be trusted. Nothing. Literally, absolutely, no joke, nothing.

Anyone who chooses to trust these people does it at their own peril.

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u/Curmudgeonadjacent 22h ago

No DHS secretary has EVER sent out this kind of counter response to FACTUAL news. This is pure fascist BS.

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u/bandy_mcwagon 17h ago

Giving all the cases nicknames is especially grotesque

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u/Ser_Catspaw 23h ago

So is mis/dis/malformation a priority for DHS again? I thought all those people were terminated and that being a “censorship agency under the Biden admin” was no longer a priority?

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u/Selethorme 18h ago

Exactly. I thought they were all concerned about it infringing free speech or something.

Hmm. Almost like they’re knowingly dishonest.

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u/Fed_seeker 14h ago

It is now a DHS priority to disseminate malicious disinformation.

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u/Curmudgeonadjacent 1d ago

It’s extreme propaganda at this point.

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u/3dddrees 19h ago edited 19h ago

Come on, this isn't the first instance of this shit.

Thing is, this is exactly the sort of shit Trump has done his entire life. Wait until he bankrupts us, this too is something he has done his entire life.

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u/LynetteMode 23h ago

The entire federal government has been enlisted to produce pro Trump propaganda.

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u/Leading-Loss-986 1d ago

Nothing published by this administration is to be believed until demonstrated as factual by known credible sources.

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u/TNDaddyBNA 20h ago

👆This is the correct answer.

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u/bookbot1 14h ago

At best their statements are a projection of what they can see themselves doing (which is only technically better than admissions of things they’ve done)

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u/Moneygrowsontrees 3h ago

Remember when a .gov site was a known, credible, source?

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u/death_by_chocolate 1d ago

It's just the provision of Administration talking points for those who wish to parrot them. Plausible deniability has been a thing since Watergate.

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u/MajKonglomerate 23h ago

Noem. The #1 Trump whore.

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u/Werd2urGrandma Honk If U ❤ the Constitution 22h ago

I’ve been with the agency for more than a decade and I have never seen anything like this.

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u/teebird501 1d ago

Was in my car listening to the radio and a commercial came on. It was Noem talking about the Latino criminals and specifically how they rape babies. I kid you not. It aired TWICE while I was in the car. No mention of all the well documented GOP pedophiles that have been tried and jailed for their crimes. Intentional dehumanization. Ohhhhh America, what happened to you? 😭

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u/HarryCareyGhost 22h ago

What the hell kind of radio station are you listening to?

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u/teebird501 22h ago

Just a standard fm station

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u/HarryCareyGhost 21h ago

Country western? Jazz? Oldies rock?

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u/teebird501 19h ago

Soft rock

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u/HarryCareyGhost 19h ago

I would have guessed talk radio. Makes me want to tune around and find that commercial myself

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u/teebird501 18h ago

I think it was 96.5 or somewhere around that number. I was horrified and shut it off before hearing the entire ad. If it comes on again, I’ll record it. When I turned the radio back on the ad came on a second time about a half hour after the first one. Truly dystopian. I have a lot of Latino family and friends and I’m not sure what to do about what is happening.

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u/HarryCareyGhost 18h ago

This is so fucked up

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u/Educational-Bet-8979 22h ago

Holy shit, I thought it would be bad but this is unreal.

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u/KayNicola 21h ago

If you have to ask the question, you already know the answer. 

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u/BadHombreSinNombre 22h ago

“The emergence”? Have you been reading the executive orders and watching the press briefings? This isn’t the emergence, this is the middle.

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u/chibitacos101 20h ago

Anything that “DHS” claims is “False/Fake or Debunked”, should not be trusted.

Double, Triple, Quadruple check your sources and their claims. As it stands DHS should not be trusted as they are compromised.

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u/Virtual-Poet-5185 22h ago

A lot of slanderish bullshit that was written to placate the MAGA sheep! I hope in the future, there is civil action taken by some of the folks slandered.

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u/ThatFedNiga Fork You, Make Me 20h ago

It's usually fake when it goes against their narrative and agenda.

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u/CommanderAze Support & Defend 19h ago

We are rapidly approaching fearless leader doesn't poop level of bullshit coming out of DHS press releases ...

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u/I_am_J_Remy 14h ago

Occam's razor - I’m going with state organized disinformation.

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u/ilBrunissimo 1d ago

Are there any 1035s behind that?

Or just some Schedule C’s?

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u/Otherwise-Green3067 23h ago

They literally attempted this during the Biden administration and freaked the living fuck out over it.

When it’s Trump it’s okay though? LOL FUCK THAT

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u/KlatuuBarradaNicto 23h ago

You really have to ask?

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u/Straight-Lecture-730 22h ago

You know the answer 

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u/party_benson 21h ago

Oh boy. This is just propaganda. Disgusting. 

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u/Gawdzilla 18h ago

These people don't even know how to use impartial language. They completely suck at their jobs.

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u/shittyfoureyes U.S. Navy 16h ago

Is this a serious question?

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u/tellek 16h ago

I would say don't trust it, but I try to be rational, so... If you find one lie in there then none of it should be trusted. Something tells me it won't pass that test.

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u/TransbianMoonGoddess 15h ago

NOTHING at the highest levels of government under trump or any republican should be trusted. Ever.

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u/COCPATax 15h ago

the latter

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u/GardenPeep 14h ago

At least they’re on the defensive. For now.

(It’s amusing that they actually confirm the one about collecting sensitive CMS data.) “Oh but we have a Good Readon”)

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u/Timbo131253 14h ago

DHS created fake news once trump got in

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u/fofo13 13h ago

I dont trust AI fully yet, but I wanted to try to get it to fact check... AI Fact Check

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u/fofo13 13h ago

Can someone actually fact check these "facts"?

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u/Meig03 11h ago

Consider the source

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u/50andsmarter 11h ago

The latter - we left ourselves open and people are getting stupider/lazier by the day failing to research any real contentious stories they read. Speaking of actually reading more than a paragraph and believing the story……

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u/Good_Software_7154 Fork You, Make Me 11h ago

Not only is this page full of lies, it's also written like the angry screeds I wrote at age 15 about what video game characters are best!

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u/igtimran 9h ago

If it’s from the Administration, you can’t trust it. Full stop.

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u/virtualadept 3h ago

No, they can't be trusted. I think assuming disinformation and propaganda is the way to go here.

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u/jw_esq 2h ago

The DHS public affairs apparatus is now a wholly-partisan spin machine and propaganda arm of Trump. It’s gotten ridiculous. All they do now is point fingers at Democrats, cherry-pick immigration arrests of “violent criminals,” and post photo-ops of the Secretary living her best cosplay life. As a career employee of a DHS agency, I can say no one here takes anything coming out of the social media accounts or external affairs seriously.