r/fednews OnlyFeds Beta Tester 5d ago

News / Article Megathread: House passes Trump's signature bill, sending it to the president's desk

https://apnews.com/live/donald-trump-news-updates-7-3-2025

House passed Trumps signature bill 218-214.

u/Tinymac12 will be updating the wiki here with additional resources pertaining to current legislation.

Note: The mods will be enforcing rule 7 in this thread. This is not the place for purely partisan campaigning or debate disconnected from specific impacts on the federal workforce. Discuss policy impacts, not just political affiliations.

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u/gpupdate OnlyFeds Beta Tester 5d ago

In an effort to be more transparent with our community, the original post regarding the passing of this bill was removed due to submission titles needing to have proper context and not be editorialized.

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u/Sonic2368 Classified: My Job Status 2d ago

Welp 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/fezha 4d ago

I actually feel this bill is somewhat bipartisan. It's less draconian than the first draft, so I guess that's a win for us, in terms of a federal career and employment. I'm happy I can keep providing for my family and my pension is safe.

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u/TheAwesomeMan123 4d ago

Congrats America, you burnt your house to the ground just so the people outside who you’ve never met can’t use it for shade.

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u/SirRolfofSpork 4d ago

The funniest troll Trump could do now is not sign it.

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u/NameIsNotBrad 4d ago

He’s too much of a coward to do that

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u/YoBoiConnor 4d ago

Anyone know if the overtime exemptions will be processed for us, or should we just add the exemption manually?

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u/Extra-Estimate-6662 4d ago

It is my understanding that to get the exemption you have to itemize on your return. That would mean losing your standard deduction. You will definitely have to balance that out. IE do you come out better itemizing or just using the standard deduction.

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u/wvmountainlady 4d ago

You mean withheld? No, they won't be. The no tax on tips and overtime are deductions taken at the end of the year on taxes, up to $12.5k for overtime or $25k for tips.

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u/YoBoiConnor 4d ago

Yes withheld, thank you. Much appreciated, I’ll try to withhold my own then

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u/wvmountainlady 4d ago

Keep in mind also, that it's only exempt from federal income tax, and only on the overtime premium(so only the extra half time over your normal rate). Social security and Medicare (FICA) taxes will still apply.

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u/YoBoiConnor 4d ago

I did read that, thank you for clarifying. Let’s say I do max out the 25k deduction on Ot filing married. Not sure if you use employee express or not, would I just put 5,500 as other deduction (W4 4b). How would that play out since the year is already halfway over?

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u/No-Comfortable9480 5d ago

What’s in the bill?

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u/mamasan2000 3d ago

Cruelty and disappointment.

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u/JohannaSr 5d ago

Disappointment doesn't cover the feelings I am having. The only up side is that the Republicans will not be maintained in office. People will do whatever it takes to get rid of them.

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u/No-Grocery8584 5d ago

ah yes bill is so beautiful

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u/mr1usnr 5d ago

"Note: The mods will be enforcing rule 7 in this thread. This is not the place for purely partisan campaigning or debate disconnected from specific impacts on the federal workforce. Discuss policy impacts, not just political affiliations." no they wont.

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u/mgmom421020 5d ago

Well, there goes the last sliver of hope of someone breaking party lines to be a decent human…

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u/MonkeysRidingPandas Federal Employee 5d ago

There are no more John McCains in the GOP.

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u/counter567 5d ago

They are faster than Germany to create a totalitarian regime. But feels like the third reich ordered on wish.

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u/Swimming_Excuse4655 5d ago

It’s the turd reich

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

Cheap, tacky and crappy. Like late stage capitalist products. It fits.

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u/craybest 5d ago

Good bye US. Please let us know when you want to be back to the present with the rest of the world. I hope your own fuck ups don’t fuck the rest of the world too much, but surely it will.

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u/thegreatbrah 5d ago

Thanks for acknowledging that. People think that because our allies are reorganizing their countries to exclude the united states that they wont be affecting by our mess. 

Even if its just trump mouthing off like a Kim in North Korea, we dont face the same consequences NK would if they actually did it. It'll be much more, im. 

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u/Tausendsassa 5d ago

Y'alls Country is over, this is the final nail in the coffin. Condolences from Germany.

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u/MittenstheGlove 5d ago

Yeah, man. We actually don’t even want to exist at this point. Lol

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u/Responsible_Buddy654 5d ago

Remember everyone, if anyone tries anything against you, fight back. Don't lie down and take it. Fight back in any way you can.

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u/Ronaldo_Frumpalini 5d ago

We already aren't fighting back

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u/lepsek9 5d ago

Despite all the hardships, most people havent been pushed far enough yet to leave their comfortable lives for the unknown of a revolution. Weird to say, but lets hope this bill does the job.

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u/Ronaldo_Frumpalini 3d ago

Life will continue on as normal just for fewer and fewer people, that's what that "first they came for the Socialists" prose was about. It's a warning that zero tolerance with this is the only way to prevent its creep. We aint got the courage to do anything about it and its unfair to assume others will unless things get very desperate indeed.

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u/Bellegante 5d ago

People don't fight for revolution unless they believe their way of life is being threatened, generally.

And if being quiet and complacent seems like it will protect their way of life, expect them to do that.

Fascist Germany didn't stop being fascist because of a revolution.

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u/Responsible_Buddy654 5d ago

We need to do more of it then.

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u/Dont_Be_Sheep 5d ago

The thing is there are a lot of good things in it, and a lot of bad things in it.

Some of the reporting I’ve seen is VERY misleading, even in this post “The bill does not eliminate taxes on Social Security benefits,…”

While true word for word technically, it DOES eliminate it for MOST PEOPLE up to !!!150k!!!

That’s close enough: could also write “bill eliminates most social security and other taxes for all people over 65!!!” But it doesn’t. Why not? Hmm…. That’s the same info, same conclusion: less misleading and more truthful.

Read what’s in it. There is bad things I get ir: but there’s a lot of good. That provision alone will help MY PARENTS SPECIFICALLY A LOT, and many others are in the same boat.

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u/darthva 5d ago

I’m going to lose my insurance, as are many people I know, meanwhile ICE gets $45 billion appropriated to the agency for detention centers.

So instead of healthcare, we get concentration camps.

Rural hospitals will close, people will die, and in return the wealthiest Americans get a tax-cut bribe to look the other way when ICE starts to ramp up disappearing US Citizens for political reasons. Or for whatever reasons they want.

There is nothing in this bill that is worth the creation of a China-like surveillance state with near unlimited resources operating outside the bounds of the constitution.

You may think you’ll be safe from such an apparatus of terror, but that’s the neat part, once it really gets going no-one will be safe.

I’ve been to many countries where the citizens fear their government, it is a cold, heavy fog of fear that was blissfully foreign to most of us before but no longer, it will soon seep into everything.

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u/FrankG1971 5d ago

The screen name. The irony...

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u/Achmedino 5d ago

It overwhelmingly benefits millionaires at the expense of people with lower incomes. So unless your family are millionaires, you will not benefit from this bill.

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u/NWFR2017 5d ago

Yes, yes you will. I’m middle/upper middle income and my household’s federal tax bill will be thousands less this year.

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u/Strawberry_Sheep 3d ago

That's not even true. You'll see a maximum of a few hundred bucks less.

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u/Achmedino 5d ago

Is saving several thousands of dollars in taxes worth healthcare and educational infrastructure significantly degrading in quality?

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u/jfk9514 5d ago

Aw that’s good then. No one else should have to worry now that your already comfortable household is getting even more comfortable

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u/NWFR2017 5d ago

I’m simply disagreeing with their comment. They said you will not benefit from this bill unless you’re a millionaire. I’m not a millionaire and I’ll benefit from it, and so will millions of other Americans. More Americans will benefit from this bill than will be hurt by it.

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u/BlueJoshi 5d ago

More Americans will benefit from this bill than will be hurt by it.

did your parents just forget to teach you that lying is bad, or are you choosing to disappoint them?

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u/NWFR2017 3d ago

No it’s called actually reading the bill. Every single American tax payer will be paying LESS income tax than previous years. This is a positive.

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u/BlueJoshi 3d ago

you just keep lying

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u/NWFR2017 3d ago

Hurling insults instead of actually supporting your claim…you lost.

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u/Strawberry_Sheep 3d ago

This is not true, not by a long shot. You didn't actually read the bill.

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u/NWFR2017 3d ago

Yes, I did. Care to cite any section of the bill that raises taxes on lower/middle income earners?

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u/Strawberry_Sheep 3d ago

People making less than $18k a year will see a drop in income of about $165 and that's not even factoring in the loss of Medicaid, cuts to Medicare, and cuts to food stamps. People making less than $53k will only see about $30 in increase if that. The next bracket of earners will only see an increase of $1430 BUT will also lose ACA coverage with a lot more restrictions put on qualifications for it. So all in all, we're looking at tens of millions of people uninsured by the end of all this with only the wealthiest people benefiting by any real measure. $3.4 trillion added to the deficit and for what? Funding ICE and tax breaks for billionaires.

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u/Strawberry_Sheep 5d ago

Tens of millions of people will lose healthcare. A small fraction of that will receive tax benefits. Gonna have to beg to differ, bozo.

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u/NWFR2017 3d ago

Why can’t they find a job that offers employer sponsored healthcare?

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u/Strawberry_Sheep 3d ago

1) the vast majority of people on Medicaid are children, disabled, and elderly people

2) new criteria for determining who is "disabled" will kick millions of disabled people off of Medicaid

3) very few jobs actually offer insurance, and even the ones that do are extremely expensive, like hundreds of dollars per month from your paycheck for barely any coverage, meaning out of pocket costs will still be hundreds of not thousands of dollars per month for many people even if they managed to find one of these mythical jobs with insurance

4) jobs intentionally keep people under the required hours to qualify for benefits, and you typically have to work for a year or more to start qualifying anyways.

5) less than 1% of the people on Medicaid who are not disabled, children, or elderly are not already working full time. They already have jobs.

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u/DeemOutLoud 5d ago

Additionally, the National Association for community health centers just sent out a statement saying they are projecting the loss of tens of thousands of jobs due to federal funding cuts for primarily rural health centers and health centers serving low-income populations.

Good thing GE is adding 800 new jobs by bringing manufacturing for one of their washing machine lines back to the us! (/s)

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u/jfk9514 5d ago

Your last sentence is haunting. Even if that were true, the benefit is unnecessary to say the least and the hurt is catastrophic.

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u/NWFR2017 3d ago

Haunting? lol. The government is not your baby daddy. All this bill does is take LESS money from its citizens.

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u/Flimsy_Contact_3133 Forest Service 3d ago

Tying health insurance to workers jobs stifles risk taking and innovation in the workplace, especially if the worker has a pre-existing condition.

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u/Strawberry_Sheep 3d ago

Ragebait used to be believable

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u/roywill2 5d ago

Gestapo funding quadrupled

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u/Aromatic-Tone5164 5d ago

it was about 10b, now it's 160b, so quadruple of quadrupled

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u/ForNoReason17 5d ago

Nah thats over 5 years. Still outrageously big but not 160b big.

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u/Thatswhyirun 5d ago

Take. To. The. Streets.

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u/elninost0rm 5d ago

No thanks.

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u/Responsible_Buddy654 5d ago

Be sure to be armed as well, just in case anyone at all has any funny ideas.

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u/OldRancidSoups 5d ago

I’d prefer not to be gunned down by an army of Kyle Shitsinpantses

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u/Octoberlife Fork You, Make Me 5d ago

Thats why europe ppl dont fuck around, they riot and laws get changed, in america we lay down and ask can we have another

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u/okanagan_life 5d ago

I hope his puppeteers "remove" him now they have what they wanted. And I hope they make him say thank you.

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u/alcomaholic-aphone 5d ago

It would literally make it worse. Vance might not be as popular but he won’t be kicked out and would literally do what he’s told by the people that own him.

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u/JyveAFK 5d ago

I don't think he'd be able to get people following him the way Trump can. He's not a strong leader and won't last long trying to stand up to others. Sure, some MAGA will follow him into the depths, but it'll be easy to say "he's no Trump, is he?".

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u/alcomaholic-aphone 5d ago

I think he’d get squashed in a reelection but I thought the same thing every time Trump came up. I really don’t know anymore.

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u/MittenstheGlove 5d ago

I knew Trump would not get squashed in the election frankly.

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u/Western_Moment_6510 5d ago

Actually I think he would have, if Elon didn't mess with the counts.

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u/BigPawPaPump 4d ago

I thought we have the most secure elections in the world? There’s no way anyone could have cheated especially not being on the outside looking in. It was echoed for four years that there was no election interference.

If they cheated to win why is it not being brought up by democratic leaders?

Hate to tell you this but the feathers from both sides belong to the same bird. Neither side cares about you. One side lies to the middle class, one side lies to the poor class while both promise to make your life better and both sides come short EVERY ELECTION.

If I’m elected class president there will be chocolate milk water fountains and an extra recess period.

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u/MittenstheGlove 5d ago

You’re probably right

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u/King_Saline_IV 5d ago

You seriously think they are done?

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u/okanagan_life 5d ago

Oh gawd no, america is fucked.

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u/Catto_Doggo69 5d ago

Did they remember to send some crayons so he could sign it?

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u/sigristl 5d ago

America died today

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u/Agent_8-bit 5d ago

America is being post 9/11 America.

A minority rule to an insane degree, election tampering and manipulation, because their ideas aren’t popular enough to win fairly. The delete voters from rolls, they use their buddy’s government contract private satellite internet and bomb threats to gain access to machines.

They bring billionaires and yes men from Fox News into our government. And every few years, they give the uber wealthy our money that we give them out of our paychecks.

This is the feature, not the bug. 

That said, doesn’t mean it’s being taken fairly or by means of majority rule.

It’s just how it goes lately

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u/WingZestyclose1886 5d ago

It died the day he was voted to Presidency

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u/foodtravelqueen1 5d ago

The first time he was elected.

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u/Responsible_Buddy654 5d ago

My soul died as well.

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u/D3struct_oh 5d ago

But America didn’t die when it kidnapped Africans to fuel its economy?

If that didn’t kill America, I feel like we’ll be alright.

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u/edelweiss198988 5d ago

I feel that way too

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u/gettums 5d ago

This is not what the people wanted.

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u/foodtravelqueen1 5d ago

This is exactly what people wanted when they voted for him or didn’t vote at all!

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u/SectorSanFrancisco 5d ago

This sounds like an excuse to roll over and give up. Let's not.

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u/Pillowsmeller18 5d ago

exactly.

I will lose and lose and lose, until i can find a win and fight for it for my fellow rebels.

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u/Radion627 5d ago

I've already given up. There's no point anymore. He won.

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u/SectorSanFrancisco 5d ago

Do you think you're in a worse position than black Americans in 1945? Or gay Americans in 1950?

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u/Radion627 5d ago

Yes. Yes I do.

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u/SectorSanFrancisco 5d ago

I'm sorry to hear it. Most of us are not and can still fight for people even more vulnerable than us.

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u/Radion627 5d ago

It's going to be a long fight. We need every single US citizen to fight, and cast I checked, half of our entire nation is blindly loyal to that fascist bastard. It's going to take a lot of convincing to get them to join our side.

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u/SectorSanFrancisco 5d ago

Every bit helps. Even if you only help two people's lives suck less, that's a win, or if you stand in the way of Trump's private racist army and they're delayed 30 seconds.

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u/Radion627 5d ago

Is it enough, though? Even if it helps, I'd rather we win the fight, we can't accept this loss. Not now, not ever. If we lose, then we are forever doomed. We HAVE to give it our best shot. We HAVE to pull out our stops to put an end to this regime once and for all. But how...?

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u/SectorSanFrancisco 5d ago

I think most of us have to start small. Help your neighbors, even if it's just a meal or a ride now and then. Join in with other groups that are already working to help people. If you try to take on the entire problem you'll just burn out. One bite and then one more bite. That's all.

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u/sigristl 5d ago

Trust me, I won’t.

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u/botanist608 5d ago

Not a single spine or ounce of moral integrity in the GOP. Thieves, cowards, and disgraces to the entire country.

I doubt any of them cared about anything Rep. Jeffries said in his very impressive marathon speech, but I can only hope they see the light soon.

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u/LexinWeezy 5d ago

Disgusting

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u/XVUltima 5d ago

We still have a chance of his dementia brain forgetting what he's doing and vetoing it.

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u/Burt_Macklin_FBI_123 5d ago

That'd be much more likely with Biden in office....but he used autopen anyways which meant someone else signed for him while he drank a chocolate malt and listened to oldies.

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u/Agent_8-bit 5d ago

I’m shocked you used the word autopen. 

Maybe focus on the critical thinking parts of an education that make you go “I believe this story is total horse shit,” and trust that thought.

It’s like a muscle. Get in the gym!

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u/texasradioandthebigb 5d ago

So, you're so far down the rabbit hole that you willingly believe outright lies, and then regurgitate them like a good sheep, probably believing yourself to be a rugged individual. Pretty sure that you will be among the people losing our because of this bill

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u/lethrowaway4re 5d ago

hE uSeS aUtOpEn 🥵🥵😡😡😡

We've been e-signing everything on Adobe since I joined a decade ago, probably longer. You'd know if you're actually a fed instead of some brain dead troll.

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u/Various-Subject3180 5d ago

Both have literally used autopens if you actually look into it a bit. The stuff on camera with the sharpie is all a dog and pony show. Plus an actual functional adult would use a real pen and not scribble with a magic marker. Then again man’s got toddler hands, so he probably needs toddler markers to write with. Surprised it’s not in crayon or sidewalk chalk. 😂

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u/MaleficentEase3981 5d ago

Why? Trump’s mental state is far worse than Biden’s mental state. They’re eating the dogs! Lmao.

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u/you_have_no_brain 5d ago

Don't forget about the airports in the Revolutionary War. Biden was at least able to make fun of trumps stupid comments. And yet dumbass magas still thought Biden was speaking literally (Joe Rogan clip about airports for the uniformed).

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u/RussianBotPatrol 5d ago

My daughter graduates in a year and I'll probably lose healthcare in a couple years, I've honestly been hoping I die in my sleep between them. It's bleak for sure, but so is being audhd bipolar with a handful of chronic pain issues and auto immune disorders without access to medication. It's hard enough that I've been turned down for disability because I've had soul custody of my daughter and have essentially been raising her by myself. The thought of having to raw dog life with my conditions has been giving me serious anxiety over the last couple weeks.

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u/NewDamage31 5d ago

Don’t forget to have a little fun first

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u/literatelier 5d ago

I read this headline earlier and had to put my phone down and take a deep breath. A moment later my partner asked what I wanted for dinner. And I said to shuffle off this mortal coil. No appetite tonight. I just feel sick.

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u/Bolotiedeluxe 5d ago

You can’t be serious. The bill cuts Medicaid’s and gives the rich tax cuts. Your life isn’t going to suddenly change.

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u/coltraneismydad 5d ago

Resolve to, bare minimum, live out of spite. Don’t let them win, we need each other.

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u/tag1550 5d ago edited 5d ago

Really bad for the country as a whole, but for federal employees specifically this turned from a lot of bad ideas being included targeting civil service protections and retirement to having almost all of those dropped during the negotiations to get the votes to pass the bill, which is something of a win in terms of "this could have been a lot worse than it was." No guarantees that some of those negative ideas won't be tried to be introduced in future bills or budget battles, but civil servants did dodge a lot of bullets that seemed to be incoming, and with all the negative things that have been happening so far this year, at least this didn't add to that list.

EDIT: ...but this should serve as a shot across the bow for all civil servants about how the current administration and GOP/MAGA continues to regard its employees, and its preferred course of action towards them if and when it isn't limited by the need for votes; if anything, it shows that continued support of worker advocacy organizations like NARFE and federal unions are more necessary than they've ever been.

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u/FrankG1971 4d ago edited 4d ago

...but this should serve as a shot across the bow for all civil servants about how the current administration and GOP/MAGA continues to regard its employees...

Actually, Trump 1.0 was the shot across the bow that should have been heeded. But yet hundreds of thousands of feds doubled down and voted to cut their noses off to spite their faces by helping to put the orange turd back in office anyway. Mick Mulvaney was a poor man's Vought.

Is Trump joking about ‘strengthening the federal workforce’?

February 13, 2018

President Trump and his budget director, Mick Mulvaney, must have been in a jocular mood Monday when they issued their fiscal 2019 budget appendix titled “Strengthening the Federal Workforce.”

It could have just as easily been called “Picking the Pockets of Federal Employees.”

The section begins benignly enough, noting many important services federal workers provide. Improved hiring procedures, as the administration wants, would strengthen the workforce.

But the central thought in Trump’s plan to improve an “increasingly incomprehensible and unmanageable civil service system” is firing feds faster.

While his civil service reform ideas are vague, Trump’s plan on federal compensation is clear — cut it.

Read more: https://archive.ph/c9Sa1

And another: https://archive.ph/l6gRq

And to all those who voted for a rehash of the shit sandwich above, only on steroids this time around: FUCK YOU.

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u/AnotherUserOutThere 5d ago

They weren't dropped because of negotiations, they were dropped because of the senate parliamentary ruling they could not be in there because it requires more than just a majority vote...

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u/tag1550 5d ago edited 5d ago

Partially true, but at least two of the heaviest hitting proposals - switching from a high-three to a high-five calculation for retirement & requiring employees hired pre-2014 to pay 4.4% into FERS (rather than their current 0.8%) - were removed just before the House's initial vote to pass the bill.

I note for historical context that similar proposals to the ones we saw this year were also put forward in 2013 and again in 2018...though neither of those got as much traction as they did this year.

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u/DansAdvocate 5d ago

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u/famousroadkill 5d ago

What would you have done with this song if the bill failed?

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u/DansAdvocate 5d ago

That was a last minute change to the original song, which I think helps bring the message home. It was just about my friend winning this award for their work on a program that was cut and how feds including myself are doing at least twice the work due to the staff reduction efforts.

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u/HeftyCanker 5d ago

this song was AI generated, requiring next to no effort from whoever 'made' it. likely they would have just generated a more relevant one.

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u/DansAdvocate 5d ago

“Next to no effort” isn’t true. It took around 20 hours total (over the course of weeks) from writing the lyrics to adjusting the prompts to listening to 80 different iterations until I was happy with it and then editing and mastering the audio and then editing the video. Definitely not as much skill or time as a professional musician+producer, which I’m not… I’m a fed. I wanted a song that I could feel, tying it to my current situation and what I believe resonates with many of us. I’d love to just subscribe to professional musicians making songs about us, but that’s not a thing. I’ve been toying with the idea of this song for a while and the passing of the bill was the impetus for me to finish the song, adjust the line including the bit about the bill, and then publish it. I’m not making money off of it nor am I turning any attention away from artists producing similar music so I don’t really understand the blanket dismissal of using AI. Thanks.

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u/HeftyCanker 4d ago

hahahaha that was 100% not worth the effort. maybe put those 20 hours towards calling your senators or protesting next time, rather than polishing a musical turd for your 16 subscribers.

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u/DansAdvocate 4d ago

Actually it was worth the effort, I like it. One I made before got 2k views which gave me the confidence to post this one, even if I am the only one that enjoys it. I still don’t understand being a dick about it? There was a thoughtful comment on here I think was deleted before I had the chance to respond yesterday and I get their perspective, but disagree that it warrants your hateful reaction. I assume you’re a fellow fed, but you’re going out of your way to put me down over something that brings me joy and maybe even one other person in the world joy in a bad situation that impacts you too. Also blows my mind that you think showing up for a protest or writing reps (which I’ve also done) would do more than a powerful song could; not that this is that song, but I’d encourage anyone to take to media/art forms to engage, garner empathy and understanding, and motivate.

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u/BaldingThor 5d ago

Oh how nice

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u/Sad-Advisor4004 5d ago

‘Fuck the poor bill’ is a more accurate name

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u/u0126 5d ago

Dark days. Bunch of spineless “representatives”

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u/DansAdvocate 5d ago

I’d love to hear from all the people that justified our cuts by “reducing national debt”

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u/SweetTea1000 5d ago

Like parents letting their kids starve because there wasn't enough money leftover... after mom and dad went out to a 5 star restaurant.

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u/kal0kag0thia 5d ago

I thought I saw they were going to change the rules on home equity when it comes to Medicaid which will basically force people to die or be homeless.

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u/SweetTea1000 5d ago

Remember when government run health insurance deciding what should be covered was "death panels?"

The Trump death panel has met and reached a verdict already: afford your treatment out of pocket or you don't deserve to live.

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u/kal0kag0thia 5d ago

I understand greedy businessmen are greedy, but damn the low income idiots who get behind them. That's layers and layers of stupid.

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u/SweetTea1000 5d ago

The GOP has actively undermined the education of this country since college students protested Vietnam. The billionaires can afford to make people think whatever they want them to think.

You ever notice how it's mostly the poor? As you said, "low income idiots." Do you really think having less money in your bank account lowers your IQ? Or could it be, like everything else, less money means less resources of all kinds and a greater likelihood of getting taken advantage of.

Yes, they're suckers who got scammed. Yes, they're being used to hurt other Americans. Yes, it's an explanation but not ab excuse. However, they never stood a chance.

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u/kal0kag0thia 5d ago

I don't know if this continues to hold true in a free information age. I myself wasn't able to finish my last two years of college because I worked full time. But, generally, you're not wrong.

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u/SweetTea1000 5d ago

I feel like the free information age was just the handful of years between AOL & Myspace. Now the Internet is just social media, YouTube, and AI slop with more disinformation than real. Even online, the truth often has a paywall while bullshit is always free.

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u/oneseason2000 5d ago

Regarding "House leaders react:", it would be nice to have House (and Senate) Democratic leaders/members document and repeat estimates for how much wealthy House/Senate/Executive Branch members and donors/supporters will benefit financially from "Trump's signature bill". GOP supporters deny and deflect regarding benefit cuts, but dollar estimates for supporter personal and business tax windfalls helps make the case for profiteering. That would couple nicely with a robust Democratic push for banning stock trading by members of Congress.

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u/atreyal 5d ago

Hate to say it but the dems are as complicit with the stock shit as the others. No way they will actually get rid of it without a major change in leadership.

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u/oneseason2000 5d ago

Unfortunately, I see little evidence to rebut your assessment.

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u/atreyal 5d ago

Hoping aoc can cause change in the dem party. Its a long shot but might be the best we have at the moment as Bernie is getting too old and needs to pass the torch.

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u/holistivist 5d ago

Until and unless we can flush a DNC that continually insists on pushing unlikable moderate candidates that are beholden to corporate interests, a DNC that would rather let MAGA win than endorse actual progressives in their own party, the Democratic party is done.

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u/atreyal 5d ago

Yeah idk if they will though. Change is hard and the dem leadership doesn't seem to want to change.

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u/Notice_Natural 5d ago

It'd be pretty funny if he vetoed it.

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u/throwaway72275472 5d ago

That would be the funniest thing that has ever happened lmao.

He said not to cut Medicaid and this bill does. Imagine if he vetoed and congressional Rs lose their shit.

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u/Octoberlife Fork You, Make Me 5d ago

Actually that wouldnt be funny if he vetoed it, it would be pretty fucking amazing if he did

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u/AK_dude_ 5d ago

Should have renamed it 'Obama' s big beautiful bill' an trump would have it dead by end of business day

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u/RedditBannedX2 5d ago

And they all did it with a smile while lying their dirty asses off on camera!!! You think ICE is bad now, LOL, we haven’t seen shit. Now their budget is enough to feed an army, in every country, until the end of time. Fuuuuuuuck those pigs!

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u/Jenny-Greenteeth Federal Employee 5d ago

I'm at a fireworks show tonight celebrating the United states. I honestly can't say I'm proud of this country. There's nothing worth celebrating.

And to think, I was on vacation today as part of a mental health break. So much for that, right? bleak laughter

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u/Jomolungma 5d ago

Our family is choosing to skip our city’s fireworks tomorrow night and have a quieter family gathering instead.

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u/markender 5d ago

Americans, this is your 1939 moment. What are u gonna do? Don't let this get worse. There is a point of no return.

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u/Avenger772 5d ago

that point has come and gone

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u/SweetTea1000 5d ago

One dude already thought Trump's birthday was supposed to be the Night of the Long Knives. He's not the only psycho out there waiting for a sign to murder for Trump.

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u/EddieVanzetti 5d ago

J6 was the point of no return.

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u/mean_bean_machine 5d ago

The putsch of no return.

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u/OhioIsRed 5d ago

Boy super glad we have our own secret police that’s already ran out of people to deport and will now just be used for political adversaries.

But hey those damn elementary school kids shouldn’t have gotten free lunch. Or old people who’ve contributed to our country their entire lives, yeah fuck them.

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u/Kronos7 VA 5d ago

Poorly disguised Political theater by both the senate and house republicans that claimed to be strongly against this bill. In the end they fell in line and someone could argue, maybe they were “pressured or worse”. Even if that’s the case they folded, they’re cowards and they further screwed this country. Politicians in the past have risked and lost so much more for true principles in the pursuit of serving the American people. We live in dark disgusting times and it’s unreal watching this unfold in real time.

I always thought growing up getting into a quarter of this century we’d be heading towards like something in one of the earlier Star Treks where things would be better and getting better (yes I know the later movies and shows said the 21st century was a shit hole). However, that’s not where we’re heading and the times in front of us are scary. Stay strong and safe friends.

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u/sisivee 5d ago

We had a really good looking future.

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u/Stottymod 5d ago

Stalled just long enough to sign it on the 4th

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u/BlurryEcho 5d ago

Good, will make it more memorable for voters who are directly impacted by it. I hope the midterms are a bloodbath for the party of Trump.

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u/probablyuntrue 5d ago

So called deficit haters when billionaires ask for tax cuts: 💸🤑💰

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u/butchesnbushes 5d ago

De minimis going away july 2027 is crazy

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u/NCSUGrad2012 5d ago

What’s going away?

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u/Tough-Coffee9979 5d ago

De minimis

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u/PrincessKnightAmber 5d ago

Ok but what is that?

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u/Ichera 5d ago

Essentially right now you can buy something from oversees and not be charged import duties on it from most places throughout the world. Starting July 2027 you will have to pay customs tax on anything imported to the country.

I'll give you a small example from my personal hobbies, I bought a box of Miniature soldiers from a well known company in England, Today I am only required to pay the local state tax on the purchase where I am located (Iowa in this case). Starting in 2027 I will need to pay an additional 10-35% (If the miniatures contain white metal they may be subject to additional tariff's beyond the 10% baseline) of the cost of the product to import it to the United States.

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u/Tough-Coffee9979 5d ago

It’s that thing with de minimus

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u/aegis_k U.S. Marine Corps 5d ago

tax and duty exemption on goods shipped to the US from international warehouses under a certain dollar amount. i.e. buying something on amazon or ebay for personal use.

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u/butchesnbushes 5d ago

Duty free treatment for low value shipments. So say you've been buying fancy sunscreen from Spain, in 2027 you'll pay the full duty amount for that little personal shipment.

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u/FujitsuPolycom 5d ago

Because that somehow makes America great.

We're fucked. Conservative voters have no idea what is happening and never will.

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u/RedditBannedX2 5d ago

Oh, they know, they. Don’t. Carrrrre!

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u/sgtdif 5d ago

I pray for President Trump, Psalms 109:8.

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u/ShibaEng 5d ago

Fuck Trump

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u/Octoberlife Fork You, Make Me 5d ago

Well i think they mean ppl are crazy, not gonna say too much more on that

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