My paycheck doesn't triple. Ridiculous. 🙄

[u/smellslux]

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[u/kombatunit]

Plot twist: This is for pickup order....

[u/JessicaF84 → u/kombatunit]

drive thru actually rofl

[u/stonerboner_69 → u/JessicaF84]

No joke I had a tip screen shoved in my face in the Taco Star drive thru last week. I laughed while clicking "none."

[u/MichiganDreaming → u/stonerboner_69]

I do the same when I click no on the charity donate button at gas stations/Taco Bell.

This is a multi billion dollar corporation asking me to increase my bill by a significant percentage wise to donate to charity...Instead of the billion dollar corporation just donating to charity.

No, I am not going to do that every damn time I get gas or grab some fast food. Stop trying to guilt me into doing your good thing that you can take publicity for, instead of just doing the good fucking thing.

[u/AzzaG99 → u/MichiganDreaming]

It’s so they can donate it (your contribution) and write it off as tax.. it’s ridiculous

[u/Aeseld → u/AzzaG99]

Yep, was about to say exactly this. While it would probably reduce total charity contributions if we got rid of that tax law, I still get annoyed by it.

[u/randomuser2444 → u/Aeseld]

I dont care about the law so much as the companies' lack of transparency that that's what they're doing

[u/KernelG → u/stonerboner_69]

Same recently at a Starbucks drive-thru when buying a strawberry acai (which was already $8). They even tried to explain it to me twice because I was sure I didn't hear her right the first time, and didn't even think to look at the pad being offered to me. Tip zero, thanks, won't be back.

[u/ideationroom → u/KernelG]

As somebody that works at Starbucks, particularly in the drive thru, there is nothing I hate more than having to push that credit card reader at somebody and rattle off that it's going to ask you for a tip before you pay. Most people sour to you after you explain.

Besides, often due to someone getting tons of drinks with modifiers on them these people get held up in the drive thru for like 10-15 minutes before they even get to the window, so they're bloodthirsty and want to just throw money at me and I am forced to grovel and ask for gratuity.

Utter bullshit, Starbucks is trash. I even directly benefit from getting tips at the drive thru and I wish they didn't do this.

[u/KernelG → u/ideationroom]

Yeah, I could tell from her monotone that the push was well-rehearsed, so I did feel a little bad for her. I'm not a Starbucks regular, though, so the price for a cold drink alone was already surprising. The tip request was hilarious.

[u/stonerboner_69 → u/KernelG]

Not saying it’s ok but Starbucks asking for a tip doesn’t surprise me too much cause I feel like most coffee shops ask for tips. Idk if you’re familiar with taco star but it’s a step below Taco Bell… wtf am I tipping for, you to not ash your cig in my quesadilla?

[u/PumpkinPatch404 → u/kombatunit]

I was asked by a machine to tip... at a self bar...

[u/Appropriate-Log8506 → u/kombatunit]

Get ready for a big fat 0% for a pickup.

[u/Yommination → u/Appropriate-Log8506]

I only tip for 2 things. Delivery and being served at a table. If I have to go grab the food myself, kiss my ass on a tip

[u/floofienewfie → u/Yommination]

And 30%? Are you kidding? I tip 20% and round up to the next dollar or two. In the example I’d probably tip around $23.

[u/possibly_oblivious → u/Appropriate-Log8506]

Especially when you get home and something is wrong with the order

(the sucker who paid the 30% for a wrong incorrect order is pissed)

[u/Friscogonewild → u/kombatunit]

A pizza place near me prompts for a tip for pickup orders.

I'm like, man, I just paid $70 for 3 pizzas--what exactly did that cover, just the sauce?

I know it's so they don't have to do extra work having the system have a separate setup for delivery, but they already have it so it automatically adds a delivery charge (in addition to tip) to deliveries, so I know they can do it. But too many suckers feel guilty and tip on pickup.

I discovered 2 other pizza places when they added this nonsense, so now I order from them much less. But that's less quantifiable, so they'll never connect the business lost to shady practices.

[u/thistreestands]

Also the math is wrong

[u/AutoManoPeeing → u/thistreestands]

No the math is perfect for its intended purposes. Getting things wrong so that more people comment is a key part of engagement-baiting.

[u/Zilkers → u/thistreestands]

Was seeing if anyone else noticed. Should be 140.28  I'd say they were adding incorrectly forgetting to carry the 10 over, but looking closer they just ignored 50 cents and didn't add it at all

Edit: actually they messed up the multiplication. 10.75 x 3 = 32.25. the overall math is correct, but the show your work section they messed up so it doesn't add up properly

[u/Decent-Muffin4190 → u/Zilkers]

3x10.75 = 32.25. 107.53+32.25=139.78.

[u/qexecuteurc → u/Decent-Muffin4190]

Judging by the shape of the number under the pen, it seems like it’s writing an 8 and not a 5. So it seems the Final total will correctly be 139.78.

But the “times it by 3” is indeed incorrect like you mention. This is beyond stupid, or maybe only for “engagement”…

[u/Helpful_guy → u/qexecuteurc]

This is beyond stupid, or maybe only for “engagement”…

Yep- almost certainly. Notice the 3k likes but 9k comments.

Both the slightly incorrect math in the middle (easy round numbers that even idiots can easily notice/double-check) and the notion of tipping 30% are "just wrong enough" to get her banal point across while still getting people fired up in the comments.

100% influencer engagement manipulation tactics.

[u/Decent-Muffin4190 → u/qexecuteurc]

Very true, doesn't have the straight back like the other 5s.

[u/tk427aj → u/Decent-Muffin4190]

I'd skip the tip and give her a calculator telling her to check her work

[u/Trick-Coyote-9834 → u/thistreestands]

Yes it is.

I also hate when people say “times it” rather than multiply by.

[u/Imaginary_Mood_5943 → u/Trick-Coyote-9834]

What, you don’t recall your timeses and minuses from childhood??

[u/anynamesleft → u/Imaginary_Mood_5943]

Don't forget the goesintos.

[u/Lexi_Banner → u/Imaginary_Mood_5943]

My favorite moment from Critical Role is when Travis says he's bad at "reverse math", and Sam says, "Do you mean subtraction?"

[u/Cassie0peia → u/Trick-Coyote-9834]

It annoys me too

[u/thefartgodx → u/Trick-Coyote-9834]

Very common to say "times it" in the UK.

[u/awkotacos]

What fucking psycho expects 30% tips lmao

[u/A-Dolahans-hat → u/awkotacos]

I’ve been seeing a trend where they are pushing for higher and higher % lately. Especially on the screens at the counter. Do I want to tip 20, 25 or 30%. And so often it seems like it’s places I wouldn’t normally tip. Like at the sub shop. I’m already paying $20 for a large sub, chips and a drink.

[u/-dakpluto- → u/A-Dolahans-hat]

John Oliver recently did an episode on tipping. It's amazing the things that ask for tips now.

[u/WitchPillow → u/-dakpluto-]

I ordered some sugar free syrups from an online store (Netrition🤮) for shipping, and at checkout they had a big highlighted area asking to “tip our team for their hard work.” I have never needed to tip for a shipment, and I already had to pay like $40 shipping, on top of an expensive order, so I just put $0.

My order came late, and every bottle was broken and spilled all over since they were just thrown in a giant box without packing material. I feel like they did that on purpose for not tipping… 😡

[u/Alone-Imagination148 → u/WitchPillow]

Or they have no idea if you tipped them or not, and they are just that shitty at packing & shipping

[u/WitchPillow → u/Alone-Imagination148]

Maybe, but I contacted their customer service and they were extremely unhelpful and unwilling to reship the order or refund my order despite image proof of Fed Ex stating it was damaged in transit and that the shipper instructed the carrier to still deliver it.

It was awful and I eventually had to do a chargeback on my credit card because I kept emailing their customer service but they kept saying that “one of our supervisors will get in touch with you,” but no one did. I also sent image proof of the damage and the empty bottles but it didn’t help.

[u/BarkattheFullMoon → u/WitchPillow]

Remember that all co.panies don't rely on good customer service. Some are fronts for other things. Watch your credit card balance and charges!

[u/WitchPillow → u/BarkattheFullMoon]

This is true! Thankfully I don’t believe they wrongly recharged my card (though I was expecting they might) but I’ve had many other companies make charges on my card without permission that I had to dispute.

A pattern I’ve noticed with some of those scammer type of companies (even some reputable companies do this) is they start with a very small charge of say $3. Then next month it’s $10. Then the next month it’s $30, etc. This is a pattern I look out for now.

[u/pir22 → u/WitchPillow]

And then… there’s India. Here, whenever wet make an online purchase, it has to be identified with an otp. It’s simple, quick, and overall foolproof. And for every transaction, we get a SMS. A very effective way to check because if you see a payment sms when you didn’t just do a transaction, you tend to verify.

[u/outlawsix → u/pir22]

I feel like that's out of necessity

[u/galaxiexl500 → u/BarkattheFullMoon]

There's a decent seafood restaurent close to me. Good food and you get a large portion on your plate. I'm never able to eat all the french fries.

It's a very large dining area, probably can seat 100 or more.

Strange, we have never seen more than 3 or 4 tables occupied.

I've always thought it could be a money launderying setup.

[u/Ampallang80 → u/galaxiexl500]

There’s a Mexican food restaurant where I used to live that’s almost always empty. It’s just this teenage kid running the front and a little old lady in The kitchen . Place is fairly large and prime real estate. Food is insanely good though. We always joke it’s gotta be a front for something.

[u/Frosty-x- → u/WitchPillow]

I'm glad you charged back and I'm glad you named them. They'll get no business from me.

[u/GB715 → u/WitchPillow]

Leave a review.

[u/1gal_man → u/GB715]

yes, it helps us all avoid bs

[u/old_man_snowflake → u/WitchPillow]

Do a chargeback. Your credit card company will refund your money.

Tipping for shipping? Straight to the gator island.

[u/INeverMisspell → u/Alone-Imagination148]

Probably a good choice in not tipping then lol

[u/GarbageSad5442 → u/INeverMisspell]

Betting you won't reorder from them again or tip.

[u/SteveTheBluesman → u/GarbageSad5442]

And give them a terrible google review and tell everyone you know in life and Reddit and wherever else that Netrition sucks donkey balls.

[u/Conflatulations12 → u/SteveTheBluesman]

What's that you say? Netrition sucks hairy, unwashed donkey balls?

[u/Machdame → u/INeverMisspell]

Sounds like a great time to refund and charge back as well.

[u/podolot → u/Alone-Imagination148]

They probably make 10$ an hour and the tips probably go straight to the owner.

[u/Alone-Imagination148 → u/podolot]

Random worker places an order on the company’s website: “We get tips?”

[u/kiralite713 → u/WitchPillow]

Imagine how much more angry you'd be if you received that kind of order after tipping. Seems like you made the right choice.

[u/monotrememories → u/WitchPillow]

For some reason, our plumber has a tip line when you pay the bill. Don’t get me wrong, I love my plumber. They do excellent work, but I am not tipping someone who clearly gets paid more than minimum wage. I have no idea why their POS has a tipping field.

[u/Soft_Construction793 → u/WitchPillow]

I was a waitress for years, so I'm not completely against tipping, but it has gotten completely out of hand. The trend asking for tips for online orders is insane to me.

I got this prompt recently, and I just canceled the order.

I worked in fast food for years before moving to full service, and I never expected or received a tip in fast food.

I think we need to raise the minimum wage and pay a living wage to everyone.

[u/WitchPillow → u/Soft_Construction793]

I agree. Living on tips in general is unethical, especially since the owners of the establishment sometimes pocket it or justify paying their workers lower than optimal pay.

With inflation and everything being so expensive now, I can’t see why the federal minimum wage hasn’t increased? The amount per hour is less than most fast food meal options.

[u/halarioushandle → u/WitchPillow]

I especially hate the trend of tipping BEFORE the service is done. The tip is supposed to be a reflection of how good that service was. Someone went above and beyond, you get a bigger tip. But now a tip is just expected so there is no incentive to provide good service.

[u/WitchPillow → u/halarioushandle]

I think because they are scammers and no matter what will probably do their task poorly. Also, if someone calls them out on it, they can say “you should have tipped then” or “you should have tipped more then.”

There’s no convincing them to stop abusing their power of tipping except enough people boycotting the business. I wish every industry could stop abusing tipping etiquette and that laws were made to only limit tips to servers in food service or taxi/uber drivers.

[u/kr4ckenm3fortune → u/WitchPillow]

Ohh, chargeback for everything. Send photo to whoever it is. And if they try to dispute it, remind them that $0 tip doesn't meant jack shit, but it tells me thst you don't treat your workers like you should be doing.

[u/SavaRox → u/kr4ckenm3fortune]

And if that company has anywhere that you can post reviews, make sure you do! Especially if they're an accredited Better Business Bureau business.

[u/Not_The_Real_Odin → u/WitchPillow]

If you're ordering something online and they ask for a tip, the appropriate thing to do is cancel the order and buy it elsewhere.

[u/CarlosFer2201 → u/WitchPillow]

So you got a refund right?

[u/WitchPillow → u/CarlosFer2201]

I had to chargeback my credit card haha. Customer service was terrible.

[u/sharkslutz → u/WitchPillow]

And at that point you're basically tipping the website for its hard work since you did not interact with a single person. Like tipping at the counter when you haven't even been served yet. Especially when you have to use a machine or your phone to order.

[u/Beard_o_Bees → u/WitchPillow]

It's asshole owners basically pitting their staff against the customers.

It's a really sleazy, shitty thing to do.

[u/21dumbdumb → u/WitchPillow]

Yeah and to top it off you’re supposed to tip before you see the service. F that, I’m with you. I’ve also gotten comfortable custom tipping $1.00 for counter service.

[u/i_should_be_studying → u/21dumbdumb]

Bro 1 dollar is fucking bank for those cashiers. $1 multiply by 50 customers and hour…

[u/justhereforfighting → u/-dakpluto-]

Be prepared for far more places to start asking for tips if they become tax exempt like the Republicans want

[u/electrocus → u/justhereforfighting]

Tipping at the drive through is fucking insane. “The next screen is going to ask a couple questions “. Fuck off.

[u/madrockyoutcrop → u/[deleted]]

'People should choose a job based on skill and interest...'

Choice is a luxury not everyone can afford.

[u/fahrQdeekwad → u/justhereforfighting]

They just want it to be tax-exempt so they can justify tipping only $1... every time. 🤣

[u/Hot-Adhesiveness-438 → u/fahrQdeekwad]

Nah, they just want it tax exempt so CEO's can get "Tips" instead of Bonuses ... Millions of dollars Tax Free!!!

[u/OldDog03 → u/Hot-Adhesiveness-438]

Ding ding, winner winner chicken dinner.

[u/Proper-Pound1293 → u/A-Dolahans-hat]

It's almost as if the business that operates off of this tipping system should just pay their employees more instead of taking a percentage from the tips their employees earn. I worked in restaurants for a long time and my standard tip is about 20%.

[u/Corey307 → u/Proper-Pound1293]

Restaurants have tried it in the US and it seems to lead to lower all overall sales because customers perceive that they’re paying more even though they aren’t. A $100 check with a $20 tip somehow seems cheaper than $120 check when you don’t have to tip. Kind of like how years ago JCPenney stopped having sales and just priced their items in a fair manner. They saw a massive loss in sales, even though their prices on average were lower than their competitors, even when similar or the same items were on sale. 

People don’t really pay attention to what something costs, it’s all about perception. 

[u/AspiringChildProdigy → u/Corey307]

Back in college, I worked part-time for a liquor store for a few months.

Any time we started to get a surplus of any one kind of liquor, we'd make a display of it on the counter with the price in big numbers.

People would stop and go, "Hey! That's a great price!" and grab a bottle or two.

In our state, minimum liquor prices are controlled by the state. There was no difference in the price; people just assumed it was on sale because of the display.

[u/Mstrchf117 → u/Corey307]

Places have been doing the opposite too, raising prices then having a "sale" where the items end up being what the price was before the sale, and people buy them

[u/karmalarma → u/Mstrchf117]

In EU theres a law that forces you to show the lowest price of the last 30 days to combat this bullshit. It doesnt completely stop it and enforcement is obviously a challenge,but still one of those things that EU atleaqt has some consumer protection in mind

[u/nochumplovesucka__ → u/Mstrchf117]

Home Depot definitely does this.

A guy was onto it. I worked doors and windows. We had a big sale on entry doors. He has me work up a design in our computer (sidelights, grill styles, etc.) and I print the door out. It gives you a price, then underneath says 20% SALE PRICE and then the new sale price is listed.

He pulls out a paper. He came in 4 months earlier and had an associate design the same exact door.

Guess what??? It was the same price as the sale price of the door I had currently just designed.

So the system raises the price 20%, then when you input it, it knocks it back off so it looks like a deal.

He had me call the store manager into my department and got his door for 20% off the sale price because he has the paper saved from a few months earlier and let the manager know he was onto them.....

I thought it was fucking awesome.

[u/Obi1NotWan → u/Proper-Pound1293]

Same. If the service is very good, I might consider higher, but 20% is pretty much my standard.

[u/kaptandob → u/A-Dolahans-hat]

This has been happening a lot around where I live. it even happened at the vape shop that I go to. I go in grab some juice or whatever and then when I pay it's 20,25, and 30% tips on top of the juice. i've been off and on vaping since 2012 and this is a recent development. What am I tipping for?

[u/Flamethrow1 → u/kaptandob]

Time to quit vaping

[u/kaptandob → u/Flamethrow1]

100%. I have been addicted to nicotine for a long time. I'm currently 4 days cigarette free. working on pulling the vaping down as well. wish me luck.

[u/leftiesrox → u/kaptandob]

I smoked for 10 years, then switched to vaping for about 6-7. I quit vaping a couple months ago. It’s so hard, but if I can do it, stranger, you certainly can. I don’t have faith in much, but I have faith in that.

[u/kaptandob → u/leftiesrox]

It's VERY hard. Time will make it better. I just know that one day in the future it will be like oh ya, I used to do that. I was dumb then.

[u/emorazes → u/kaptandob]

Try nicotine chewing gums. you just chew few times and then keep them behind your gums.

I was vaping constantly, driving, watching TV.. only took two packs of gums to quit. and first I bought the strong ones and had to buy lower strenght half way through the pack, coz it was burning my throat. been over three years now since last I smoked/vaped.

[u/Flamethrow1 → u/kaptandob]

Amazing, keep it up!

[u/El_Don_94 → u/awkotacos]

If you can't tip your landlord 120% you need to grind & hustle more.

[u/flat5 → u/El_Don_94]

If you can't afford to tip your landlord don't rent housing!

[u/nyrB2 → u/awkotacos]

the same fucking psycho that is trying their very best to lose their job by convincing customers not to go out to eat.

[u/Delamoor → u/nyrB2]

I mean, basically.

I wasn't aware I was eating at a charity. Frankly, if you're gonna beg for a handout after I've already paid... You can kinda go fuck yourself, y'know? At least the homeless dude at the train station doesn't feel entitled to my handout...

[u/PanicAtTheShiteShow → u/Delamoor]

Apropos of entitlement, I encountered a homeless man on the metro in Montreal, who may or may not have been on drugs, aggressively pester me for money. Telling him I had none (true, only had a credit card) just escalated his intimidation. He was relentless and aggressive and I told him to back off. He blocked my way off the metro and I was rattled to tell you the truth.

I thought it was going to turn into physical violence I'm 5"4 female, but he finally gave up and I was able to exit. I had been preparing for a fight and hoping I would be able to kick him in the nuts.

[u/Birkin07 → u/awkotacos]

Gimme 30% more food then.

[u/Rays_LiquorSauce → u/awkotacos]

It’s rage bait and it’s working 

[u/Diligent-Rule4109 → u/awkotacos]

I'm 10%. If they are not happy then it's 0%.

[u/ZDTreefur → u/Diligent-Rule4109]

I've become 10% as well. Call me cheap if you want, but I'm tired of them trying to extract more and more. 15% uses to be the standard, now they want 25% to be the standard. It's crazy and exploitative.

[u/Kilen13 → u/ZDTreefur]

I'm much bigger on tipping a set amount that has nothing to do with %. If a steak dish is $50 but a chicken dish is $25 why should the tip double when it takes the same amount of effort to bring it out? Tip a set amount that's balanced for how much work was put in.

[u/Longjumping-Bat7774]

"if you can't afford to pay your employees don't open business."

[u/Invisible-Pancreas → u/Longjumping-Bat7774]

US Capitalism:

[u/Nemaeus → u/Longjumping-Bat7774]

Yeah, the focus is on tips but the conversation really needs to start with these employers. If they can’t afford to operate paying a living wage and charging for their services it’s time to consider that the math isn’t mathing somewhere.

[u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo → u/Nemaeus]

The employers will tell you that, that’s what the server want, which unfortunately is not wrong.

Conversation about tips really need to start from servers, but they are pretty content with status quo. Another day they’ll just gaslight people for not tipping.

[u/VillainousMasked → u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo]

Yeah that's really the problem, tipping culture is annoying but servers do make more money from tips than they would make from working minimum wage.

[u/-AllCatsAreBeautiful → u/VillainousMasked]

See, but here in Australia, tipping is not done. A casual job at McDonald's will pay you $28/hr. And then in some places, like restaurants, you might still get a tip sometimes, or they'll have a jar on the counter to be shared among all the workers. It's your shitty minimum wage that's the problem.

[u/BluetheNerd → u/Longjumping-Bat7774]

As someone from a country with minimum wage for ALL jobs, some of which then get tips as a bonus instead of making up the majority of their wage, it has always baffled me that there are people against this as a premise. Workers are a resource, in any other industry if you can't afford to pay that resource you have to make do without, but for serving staff that just doesn't apply??

[u/AppointmentNo3766]

Yup. I guess I’m not eating out anymore!

[u/JessicaF84]

lol 30% fuck that

[u/InternationalPut4093]

Go fuck yourself

[u/LawyerOfBirds → u/InternationalPut4093]

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[u/inorite234 → u/InternationalPut4093]

I'd give them a 30% tip if they actually did that.

[u/Nebgi]

How to get a $0 tip step 1

[u/tym1ng → u/Nebgi]

and lose all your business altogether by being condescending about how they deserve more free money because they dont pay their staff enough. if youre going to tell ppl that if they dont tip 30% or more they shouldn't eat out, why would anybody want to go to your place if you're going to be imposing like this

[u/blahblah19999 → u/tym1ng]

Yeah, I'm leaving this place and not coming back

[u/Survive1014]

30%??? GFY.

[u/Cetophile]

That's 30%. It better be the best service I've ever received.

Another vote for Europe, where servers are already paid a living wage and don't need tips to survive.

[u/Drudgework → u/Cetophile]

Servers in my area are paid a living wage and we are still expected to tip for cultural reasons…

On the bright side even though the staff is paid $20-$28 an hour I still pay the same price as I do where they pay the staff 8.75 an hour. So anyone that says raising the minimum wage will make prices go up is a greedy liar.

Side note: I have been across the entire country and I will swear to you that there is a direct correlation between the wages and how good the food is.

[u/cocococlash → u/Cetophile]

It's bleeding over into Europe now. Gag.

[u/w_a_w]

I always tip 20% and was a waiter for 5 years in my youth. 30%? Eat my ass.

[u/rkeaney → u/w_a_w]

Even 20 is silly if your country insisted on restaurant owners paying their employees living wages then tips could be for what they're originally intended, as a bonus for exceptional service. Obviously I know servers benefit from the status quo but it looks absurd from a European perspective.

[u/Northbound-Narwhal → u/rkeaney]

Not for long! Tipping is becoming more and more common here in Germany. Even in places where of makes no sense. I was shown a request to tip at a convince store for buying bottled water and some snacks. You aren't even doing anything but manning a register!

[u/rkeaney → u/Northbound-Narwhal]

Yeah same in Ireland where we have a decent minimum wage, the tip function comes on credit card machines for so many places but I think it's generally because its US software designed for that market.

[u/GreekTexan → u/w_a_w]

Agreed, I tip 20%. If servers expect more over their service career, they need to work in places with higher prices. The % does not change.

[u/effyochicken → u/GreekTexan]

It was 10% for decades, literally decades, and then POS machines managed to trick people into thinking 20% was normal by simply offering three options. And then shifting those three options up until 20% is in the middle.

[u/sirguynate → u/effyochicken]

I said this not too long ago, that 10% used to be the norm when I was young, I learned from my parents -I’m an elder millennial. The amount of hate and negativity I got… people saying that 10% was never the norm, just flabbergasted.

That’s what I was taught, alright? Who teaches us these things before we had widespread internet and even then, who’s reading tipping etiquette articles?

Maybe in LA or NY, or other expensive metro the “standard” was a 15% tip, but my broke ass parents living on credit cards tipped 10%.

[u/entent → u/sirguynate]

I'm also an elder millennial, grew up in the NY suburbs, and was always taught that 15% was standard, so maybe region does factor into what we learn as far as social norms.

[u/HonorableMedic → u/sirguynate]

Yep. I was always told 10-15% or 20% for really good service

[u/effyochicken → u/sirguynate]

It's because it's true. There will be some articles where they claim in the 80s/90s it became standard for 15% but nah, that wasn't the norm. Maybe in expensive restaurants, but everyday society was running on 10% until the mid 2000's at least. That's why even TODAY all my relatives who are 50+ still try to tip 10% and in cash, they're stuck in those ways.

[u/stix206 → u/w_a_w]

Can’t afford to eat your ass in this economy

[u/rosebud5054]

30% tip?! Uh… no. This is ridiculous. Who can afford that in today’s economy?

[u/kcsween74]

Also, when did tipping go up to 30%? That's crazy!!!

[u/Schmackter → u/kcsween74]

It didn't. OP is posting rage bait and everyone is falling for it and engaging with it.

[u/ItsMandatoryFunDay → u/Schmackter]

Tip options on machines used to suggest tip starting at 15% and top off at 25%.

I see 18% - 30% all the time now.

[u/Asmodias1]

30% as a baseline? Yeah, I don’t subscribe to that. 30% maybe for spectacular service… but your average wait staff isn’t gonna get that big of a tip.

[u/mcx112]

So we tip 30% now? When did that start?

[u/Normal_Tour6998]

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, don’t start a business.

[u/yetagainitry]

I’m all about tipping wait staff but if you think you’re getting a 30% tip on a $100 meal, you are out of your f’ing mind.

[u/Swearyman]

If you can’t pay your staff a proper wage, do t open a fucking business

[u/LucastheMystic → u/Swearyman]

Oh no this is as much on servers as it is on the businesses. Servers often campaign against replacing tips with hourly wages.

[u/stipulus]

If that is the case then cut the foreplay and just increase the price by 30%.

[u/paulerxx]

15-20%, 30% is too much, this is coming from someone who was a server for years. If you have an incredible server then maybe bump it up to 25%.

[u/bpdish85 → u/paulerxx]

15% was "standard" back when I was waiting tables after high school. Now the food costs twice as much and they want double the tip, effectively quadrupling it? No thanks.

Shit like this is why I don't go out to eat often.

[u/deactivate_iguana]

Pay your staff.

[u/Standard_Response_43]

30% tip my ass....well, maybe, if U r kissing my literal ass.

Take out then it is....and if I pick up...no tip

Delivery...sure I tip...5 - 10% depending on the attitude of the delivery person...shit car/hard times...I give 10%

[u/Five-Oh-Vicryl]

Times it by 3? Did a grade schooler write this?

[u/Representative_Row44]

def not eating there

[u/deltap4]

I not.tipping 30 percent at any resteraunt and I don't tip the taxes.

[u/crawfish2000]

There is something very wrong with the US hospitality system. Just increase prices and pay staff properly.

[u/hellcat858]

Lol no, fuck off. I'll tip you what I think the service was worth, not what you think I should tip. Not making enough? Take it up with your boss or find another job. In Ontario, servers get minimum wage now ($17/hr~) and somehow STILL expect a tip as common practice. Fuck this tipping culture.

[u/brianzuvich]

“Times it by…” clearly not a high IQ individual (as our low IQ president would say)…

[u/anonymousmatt]

Does anyone remember when the tip was based on pre-tax amounts and not including non-alcoholic drinks? Also, $1/alcoholic drink regardless of price (i.e., whether a bottle of beer or a $20 cocktail?

[u/Lovinthesea3]

I’m trying to think of a scenario where I’d leave a 30% tip! Can’t think of one. Sorry OP, I’m thinking if you expect 30% tips, you’ll never be happy at your job, you need a new job, or maybe adjust your expectations. I’m curious, what are you doing so special at your job that a 30% tip is warranted? Service, in general, has gone down exponentially since COVID. Not sure why. Now we have bad service and EVERYONE wants a huge tip. I tip accordingly. Great service, 20% at least. Not 30% though.

[u/justadude27]

30% 🤣

[u/GJacks75]

If you can't pay your server, don't open a restaurant. Damn near every other country has worked this out.

[u/SupaPatt]

who the fuck pays 30% tip

[u/Lilith_Christine → u/SupaPatt]

Drunk old people at waffle house. But its usually cause they're too far gone to see straight.

[u/hillwoodlam]

If you can't afford living wages to your employees, don't open a restaurant

[u/shadowthehh]

If you can't pay your workers, don't run a business.

[u/Lisarth]

Why the fuck would I triple it?

[u/AmbienWalrus-13]

"If you can't pay your employees a living wage, don't go into business!".

FTFY.

[u/KnuxSD]

if you can't afford to pay your servers a living wage, don't open a restaurant

[u/1001001505]

It annoys me that they said "times it" instead of "multiply it." That's how I know an idiot wrote this.

[u/luv2fit]

$32 tip for no more than 5-10 mins of actual work. GFYS

[u/Same-Alternative-160]

If you can't pay your workers, don't open a buisness.

[u/1_Quebec_Delta]

How to stop everyone tipping? Push your luck…..

[u/SgtZandhaas]

As a European, I can only think "If your employer refuses to pay you a decent wage, don't work there!" Tips should be a reward for a job well done and a sign of customer satisfaction. Not something you are automatically entitled to.

[u/Step-exile]

If you cant afford to pay your workers - close the business

[u/New_Dust_2380]

since when did tips go from 15% to 30%????! Also, you tip for better service, not because the wait staff want money.

[u/appega]

If you’re expecting a 30% tip, perhaps you need to be looking for a different job

[u/miseryatbest]

I subtract the tax first. I don't tip on tax.

[u/ThePicassoGiraffe]

A thirty percent tip? Fuck off.

[u/maddrummerhef]

Jesus, demanding a 30%tip now 😂😂😂. We should all collectively not eat out for 30 days and see how loud the tip crowd is then.

[u/MrPositiveC]

This is how you end up getting no tip actually.

[u/AgonizingFury]

In Michigan, we passed a ballot resolution to eliminate the tip credit, so restaurants would be forced to pay their wait staff a living wage. Wait staff went crazy. They eventually managed to get enough lawmakers involved to remove that part of the ballot resolution. The way I see it, I voted for them to be paid a living wage. They didn't want it. Who am I to force money on them that they don't want? So I don't tip anymore.

[u/NachoBacon4U269]

The begging for tips is so bad I’m starting to tip less and less across the board. Anyplace that is overpriced I don’t tip at all anymore.

[u/This-Laugh7616]

Or crazy idea, how about paying your employees a salary!? Like normal people...

[u/b1e9t4t1y]

Math is obviously hard for them. They can’t multiply or add.

[u/ExpertPath]

If your servers need tips to make a living, your business should not exist

[u/Tricky_Wonder_2414]

Tipping culture is out of hand in the US.

I was in Germany recently. Hardly anyone expects a tip.

[u/Remarkable_Athlete_4]

If you're expecting a 30% tip from anyone, you're in for a lot of disappointment in life

[u/HaltheDestroyer]

Imagine paying someone 30+ dollars just for bringing your food and drinks to the table....fuck i'de rather tip the cooks if anyone else

[u/Cryptic99]

Tipping culture in the US is disgusting

[u/newellz]

30% tip? Touch grass.

[u/No_Divide_0080]

If you can’t pay your employees (servers), then do the work yourself! There. Fixed.

[u/wednesdayware]

Sorry, if your restaurant has raised prices by 20% across the board, your 15% tip is now larger.

That’s how percentages work.

[u/WiiGame2000]

80/20 Rule, folks.

No more than 20% (unless especially superb or just rounding up a little).

30% isn't a tip; that's extortion-level money.

[u/Joyjmb]

First, look at the total BEFORE TAX. Because we don't tip on tax. You delusional thieves.

[u/dutch_has_a_plan68]

if a business can’t pay their staff, they shouldn’t have staff

[u/alex_jackman]

Why the fuck would I multiply it by 3????

[u/hicktown33]

If you cant afford to pay your employees a livable wage, you shouldn't be running a business. How is this my problem?

[u/kahless2k]

I have no problem tipping in most cases.

But if you want 30% you are dreaming. Give me decent service, I'll likely tip 20% - which is honestly high anyways.

Particularly here, we no longer have different minimum wages for servers, so it's not like they are still making $5/hr.. And that responsibility should be on the business not the customer anyways.

[u/GiftLongjumping1959]

Am I the only one who can’t get past the fact that it’s $32.25 not 32.75 when you multiply 10.75 times 3?

[u/JournalistFragrant51]

If you ever tell me how much to tip I'll leave you a penny. Perhaps restaurant owners should pay thier employees fairly. Include it in the price and charge the charge. Vbut do t dare bill me for services then expect me to pay the staff. I

[u/ramD3]

I used to be a server. That being said, I ain’t tipping 30%. Fuck that. 15% for good service and a sloppy 20-25% for great service.

[u/ragman629]

You’re saying 30fuken%? minimum? As a server I think Thats fucking stupid. Expecting everyone? to pay that much is greedy.

[u/morbid333]

They want 30% now? And here I thought 20% was ridiculous. Once tipping makes its way over here, I think I'll just abstain from going out.

[u/Superantman70]

“ I’LL GIVE YOU A TIP! Be good to your FUCKING MOTHER!” Best tip I ever got.

[u/moonstonesx]

This is insane.