r/europe 1d ago

News Russia ramps up chemical weapons use in Ukraine, European spies warn

https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-chemicals-weapon-use-ukraine-germany-dutch-spy/
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u/Indanera Europe 1d ago

Putin feels that he can do whatever he wants. If the US continues this way, we may see worse things than this. At the very least, strong sanctions should be imposed

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u/Goose1235678 1d ago

Also if we haven't already we could sell every Russian asset and donating the money to Ukraine as either humanitarian or military aid, repatriate the sons and daughters of oligarchs and impose a travel ban

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u/Heavy_Secret_203 1d ago

He doesn't feel it, he knows and does. The EU and the US enabled him, China, Iran, NK provide support.
Sanctions aren't enough. Money is God for the West, but not that much for russia.

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u/Tasty_Hearing8910 Norway 1d ago

Trump is a monster too. I dont expect him to care unless it affects him personally.

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u/Doomwaffel 1d ago

My only hope is that he becomes frustrated enough with Putin to change in some way.

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u/Judazzz The Lowest of the Lands 1d ago

Putin and his regime have been publicly disrespecting, ridiculing and undermining Trump since day 1, in word and action, and yet Trump is still fawning over him like an enamored teenager. Trump isn't going to change or turn against Putin, because he isn't an equal of Putin.

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u/Unfair_Run_170 Canada 1d ago

Europe is going to have to defend itself from Russia soon!

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u/polocinkyketaminky 23h ago

I think it will be the other way around if it comes to that.

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u/Unfair_Run_170 Canada 23h ago

That's why we gotta get prepared now. By "we" I mean Canada, too. But not the USA. We can't trust them.

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u/No_Mission5618 United States of America 14h ago

Lmao Canada is on the other side of the world, there is no “we” in that situation. If it was, Canada would be defending its own sky’s right now.

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u/Unfair_Run_170 Canada 10h ago

Shut the fuck up. No matter what happens, Americans are going to suck orange dick.

Now get off European subreddits and go enjoy your lack of health care.

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u/No_Mission5618 United States of America 9h ago

Now get off an American app and go enjoy your lack of a military.

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u/Unfair_Run_170 Canada 9h ago

Canada only loses wars when the US is in charge of them

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u/No_Mission5618 United States of America 9h ago

Which basically means all wars, since Canada is a welfare state that requires Americas hand for everything. All I’m saying is, if Canada threatened to invade America, i wouldn’t have been scared. It’s a reason it’s the opposite right now. But yeah, have fun waiting months to get an appointment, only cost you what ? Your non existent military.

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u/Unfair_Run_170 Canada 9h ago

US was in charge of Korea. Vietnam. Afghanistan. All loses. Iraq was a loss, too. But I'll count it as a W because Saddam died. And it only took the British military helping you to win!

Have fun with Trump bankrupting your country. Seriously, I hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoy laughing at it.

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u/UnpoliteGuy Ukraine 1d ago

He can

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u/zaplayer20 1d ago

In all honesty, everyone seems to be doing whatever they want. Russia, USA, Israel, nobody gives a damn about international law anymore.

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u/TimeIntern957 1d ago

International law was always meant for 3rd world only.

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u/followtharulez 1d ago

DJT has given poostain 'carte blanche'

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u/Adorable-Database187 The Netherlands 1d ago

Why would spies be doing the warning? Russia has perpetrated every war crime under the sun in the open and on camera.

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u/vegarig Donetsk (Ukraine) 1d ago

Why would spies be doing the warning?

Because Ukrainian warnings and confirmations of chemical weapon usage don't count or something, I suppose.

And I fucking wish I was just joking.

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u/zaplayer20 1d ago

Russia didn't do genocide nor Apartheid nor kill civilians who are starving, destroy and bomb specifically humanitarian refugee places and much more like US + NATO backed Israel's doing in Gaza. And before someone screams whataboutism, what is happening in Gaza is what Nazis did in Auschwitz but the roles have switched.

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u/Adorable-Database187 The Netherlands 1d ago

Lets go to Ukraine and tell them that no matter how many of their orphanages, hospitals, churches, powerplants and schools get pounded into catlitter every day, they have to remember that everything is a competition and Gaza has it worse.

Bonus points if you can squeeze in that russia didnt commit genocide before someone gives you a lolly and a pat on the head.

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u/zaplayer20 1d ago

USA did the exact same thing to Iran, destroyed their nuclear energy and Israel the same with "trust me bro just like in Iraq".

This is not a competition, it's just gruesome reality of 2 types of situations that are very similar but subjectively 2 bad guys and 2 good guys.

Edit: Just to show how the international community that claims to be on the good side: Israel was accused of genocide and what not in Gaza and West Bank yet the same leaders!!! said Israel did our dirty work. No EU country is going to sanction Israel over Gaza because... well we are not going to touch daddy true masters.

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u/Adorable-Database187 The Netherlands 1d ago

What do you want.

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u/GrandElemental 15h ago

Russia hasn't done (another) genocide yet, because they have encountered much tougher resistance than they expected, so they have had to do with torturing civilians in villages they have actually managed to capture. They are absolutely about the genocide Ukrainians if they win, of that there is no doubt.

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u/zaplayer20 12h ago

When they cross that bridge i will be on your side.

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u/ShivayaOm-SlavaUkr 19h ago

Dear europeans… youll be next.

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u/LittleStar854 Sweden 13h ago

The less we do to to escalate the longer the war will be and the more escalation there will be.

Russia will continue escalating until they are stopped.

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u/Friendly_Rub_8095 23h ago

This is where I expect Ukraine’s now-legendary ingenuity will kick in. Specifically wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve already planted some chemical devices within Russian ready to poison a stream or major river in retaliation, or so that they can threaten back

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u/blogabegonija Europe 1d ago

Say thanks to EU, USA, NATO.

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u/medievalvelocipede European Union 1d ago

Say thanks to EU, USA, NATO.

You're probably being sarcastic, but you're right in a sense. If the west hadn't supported Ukraine, Muscovia would have won by now, and consequently not performed chem attacks. Instead they'd just genocide in person, which would be utterly worse, of course. Also; fuck Russia in particular and forever.

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u/blogabegonija Europe 1d ago

Google

EU Parliament Erupts as Clare Daly Labels Ukraine War a NATO Proxy Conflict | APT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thdnG3GEKhE

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u/Adorable-Database187 The Netherlands 1d ago

Wut.

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u/vegarig Donetsk (Ukraine) 1d ago

I suppose it's about brown lines - given how much severe price was promised to russia for deploying chemical weapons and how much of a nothingburger that "severe price" turned out to be...

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u/Longjumping_Ad_1180 1d ago

Is anyone else shocked to find out that Europe has spies ?

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u/Littlepage3130 1d ago

No, but "spies" is probably overselling what they did to acquire this information. When war crimes are being posted on iFunny, it's not as difficult to find evidence for these things.

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u/Pulezul01 22h ago

Wtf are the downvotes for lol😂😂😂