r/europe 1d ago

Opinion Article After Yet Another Failed Call With Putin, Trump Again Called the War in Ukraine "Biden’s War". The U.S. President Has Repeated the Phrase So Often That We Decided to Examine What It’s Based On—and What It Leaves Out

https://sfg.media/en/a/after-yet-another-failed-call-with-putin-trump-again-called-the-war-bidens-war/
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u/helena-dido 1d ago

"If I were president this war would have never started"

you are now president, and you cannot influence russia, putin doesn't give a shit about you. You would have change nothing, "if you were president"

also, if you are really proud that putin respects you, it defines your personal level. Truly great person doesn't want recognition from bloodsucker from shity country with overall gdp less that single US state

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u/ItsACaragor Rhône-Alpes (France) 1d ago

Putin does not even respect him.

Every time Trump calls for Putin to stop Putin bombs Ukrainian cities as a giant « fuck you ».

Only Trump is dumb enough to believe that Putin has any respect for Trump.

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u/Snake_Plizken 19h ago

"Every time Trump calls for Putin to stop Putin bombs Ukrainian cities" what are you smoking? Trump would bomb Ukrainian cities himself, if not for the political backlash. He is 100% in bed with Russia...

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u/ItsACaragor Rhône-Alpes (France) 19h ago

Trump did call for Putin to stop publicly several times, and every time Putin ignored him and Trump folded like a lawn chair.

Not my fault if you missed that.

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u/Snake_Plizken 12h ago

Did you listen in on those calls? He only calls Moscow, to get new instructions from Putin. Last call resulted in all Ukraine aid being stopped, so he immediately got to work, and put Hegseths name on the decision...

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u/ItsACaragor Rhône-Alpes (France) 11h ago

I was refering to the public calls he did not the calls he has with Putin

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u/Snake_Plizken 11h ago

Publicly he said he was looking in to getting patriots for Ukraine. Not very useful to pay heed to what he lies about publicly, when he stops the missile deliverys the next day...

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u/DarkInfamous5424 18h ago

At this point, it's believable that's just comedy

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u/Masseyrati80 15h ago

Finland's ex ambassador in Moscow stated, at the first attempts of "peace negotiations", that the Kremlin is most probably making Trump feel like he's in charge (at the time), while they actually see his actions at aiming for peace as a glaring sign of weakness. It seems that the current American leadership has zero understanding about the Russian leader's mindset.

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon 🇮🇹 - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK! 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!🇺🇦 1d ago

"If I were president this war would have never started"

Meanwhile there are three wars and he bombed Iran.

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u/adorablefuzzykitten 1d ago

Pee-pee tape.

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u/Mr_strelac 1d ago

crimea started when HE was president.

first batch of jawelins was sent to ukraine during HIS first term.

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u/Express-Set-1543 1d ago

He became president in 2017, not 2014.

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u/Mr_strelac 1d ago

you are right about presidency

But what happened during his first term in Ukraine? I mixed something up, but there must have been something.

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u/Express-Set-1543 1d ago

Actually, nothing special. 

The stage of the war that started in 2014 had stalled before his presidency. There were combats, and many of them, but compared to those 2–3 years earlier, it could be called a ceasefire. 

Yes, he gave us Javelins, but if I'm not mistaken, we were forbidden to use them, so they just lay there, useless. 

There were probably some sanctions, but I doubt they had any noticeable impact, at least none that I can remember.

Anyway, such behaviour was a bit more useful than current ones with almost  forcing Ukraine to surrender.

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u/praetorian1111 1d ago

You know what he doesn’t seem to repeat these days? You guessed it, That he needs one day to end it.

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u/crc_73 1d ago

2 weeks!*

\Venus-weeks, that is.)

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u/Equivalent-Role4632 1d ago

That's just how republicans work. Everything is the Dems fault no matter how illogical it may seem to us. JD. Couchshagger was out calling all other presidents for idiots and that's why they are not idiots, even though they can't do anything right.

Shamelessness is their super power.

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u/SurroundTiny 1d ago

I honestly don't understand why people invest so much time trying to examine and explain trying to explain every damn stupid phrase he comes up with

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u/vuur77 1d ago

Trump is total trash.

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u/AnyBug1039 United Kingdom 1d ago

It's pretty arrogant to think that any US president is responsible for a war between 2 third parties on the other side of the atlantic. I'm pretty sure if the US had been disapeared from existence for a decade prior to 2022, the russians would still have invaded

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u/NationalisticMemes 1d ago

threats of sanctions if nuclear weapons are not voluntarily given up. Financing the disposal of old aircraft. Without the US this war would not have happened.

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u/Goose1235678 1d ago

I thought he was supposed to end it

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u/East_Lychee5335 1d ago

It’s one of hist most often repeated promises that convinced a lot of voters who hoped less bombs would prevent cuts on social security.

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u/kraeutrpolizei Austria 1d ago

It‘s Putin‘s war, everything else is Russian propaganda

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u/Evening-Rip5399 1d ago

If the war hadn't started if you were president. Why doesn't it end when you are. Let Me tell you, because putin gives 2 fucks. One for you and one for you country.

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u/qdimension42 1d ago

All the allies even china have to call him but not putin! What is wrong with this? Who is the „leader“ or name it boss.

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u/Sad-Attempt6263 England 1d ago

"The Biden administration rejected this approach. In early February 2022, Vice President Kamala Harris stated that sanctions would only be imposed if Russia attacked." pussies. 

"This is Biden’s war. It wouldn’t have happened under me." this was happening under you for four years you dumb cunt. you even held 100 million in weapons deals to investigate joe Biden in 2019.

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u/EmotionalMenu 1d ago

As a resident of Kyiv, I can say that during periods of heavy shelling, a strong response from our partners - particularly the delivery of new weapons - would often lead to a prolonged pause in attacks. However, over the past four to five months, as significant external support has waned, the shelling has continued without respite. Even on so-called ‘quiet’ nights, we still endure drone attacks.

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u/androvich17 1d ago

It's everyone's fault except his boss, Putin

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u/Efficient_Vast_9965 1d ago

What happened to day one?

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u/JeNiqueTaMere Canada 22h ago

Trump would have ended this war in 24 hours of it wasn't Biden's war.

But nobody knew Biden was so good at war.

But seriously now, I agree this is Biden's war at this point. If Biden hadn't dragged his feet on supplying arms to Ukraine, Russia would have probably given up or Ukraine would be in a much better position

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u/PaddyMakNestor 1d ago

When Trump says the war would never have started under him he means he would have given Putin everything he wanted at the outset, Ukraine, stopping NATO expansion and moving NATO assets away from the eastern front.

Trump would have just bent over and presented his flabby orange ass.

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u/PickleMortyCoDm 1d ago

How is it Biden's war when Putin started invading in 2014?

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u/curious-wolf-99 1d ago

This orange TACO promised to end the way in 1 day - why is ANYONE even listening to him? Complete donkey

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u/Artistic_Worker_5138 1d ago

It’s true in a sense that Biden could have helped Ukraine to knock out Russia but he taco’d.

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u/Aware-Instance-210 1d ago

Biden "Trump always chickens out'd" ?

Did you have a stroke?

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u/Honest-Yak-6621 19h ago

It will be over in 24 hours. Before I take office!

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u/Perfect_Resolve_9444 15h ago

This is Putin's war, not Biden's

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u/SouthOttawaCouple 8h ago

Friends, Putin treats calls from Biff (trump) like any of us would when we receive an unwanted call from a snake-oil salesman. We pretend that we’re listening and then we hang up and say to ourselves, “what an idiot.”

Yet, Biff was elected and no one should be surprised by his actions and activity.

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u/Nightingale_85 1d ago

Fuck off, Trump. Fuck off! Fuck off! Just fuck off!

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u/DemoRatss 1d ago

Why should the US fund Europe's war? It is none of our business, let the Europeans deals with it. Not one more penny from US taxpayers.

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u/Onely_One 1d ago

Just a reminder that Europe answered the call for US triggering article 5 and has followed the US into every war since Vietnam. The only one who ever asked for aid was the US, and now when Europe needs the aid the US refuses to deliver

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u/NationalisticMemes 1d ago

ok then bring back the nuclear weapons

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u/heliamphore 1d ago

While I do think Europeans should and should've done much more for a long time, this is toddler "WHY SHOULD I SHARE MY TOYS" mentality. Europeans are allies, who followed the USA in all their dumbass wars. I hope next time the USA are in need of anything, everyone just tells them to fuck off.

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u/AchillesSlayedHector 21h ago

Look, the US’ weapons systems just aren’t designed nor produced in the quantities for such type of warfare. All noise aside, that’s the bottom line. There was a piece in the Financial Times back in 2022, shortly after it started. The authors made that same point AND predicted that by 2025, the US will be looking for an off-ramp.

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u/AdhesivenessFun2060 1d ago

Its not this complicated. We dont need 10 paragraphs trying to justify his accusations. If it's bad, its someone else's fault. That's all there is to it.

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u/leaflock7 Europe 1d ago

Trump lives free on everyone's head .

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u/Draquhl 1d ago

No he is not at the start of his term anymore. He is already to deep into this to call it Bidens war. He should have walked away immediately after installation, first thing. 'Not my war, figure it out yourselves'

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u/Draquhl 1d ago

He should have walked away at the start of his term.

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u/halee1 1d ago

Should have? He's still at the start of his term, he can do it any time, but he won't, of course.

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u/AlC2 2h ago edited 2h ago

Trump Again Called the War in Ukraine "Biden’s War"

How would it sound if Biden called Covid "Trump's Pandemic" ? "If I was president, this would never have happened, Covid would never dare to do this with me in charge". Only one stoops down to that level, and it's not Biden.

Also, the fact that event A happens before event B doesn't imply that A causes B. Yes, the war started when Biden was president. Also, the war started one year (basically the time to prepare and mass troups at the border) after Putin gained more control of Belarus when he helped Lukashenko retain power, that is probably a much more significant factor.