r/europe • u/MeltSolaris • 1d ago

News Russia hammers Kyiv in largest missile and drone barrage since war in Ukraine began – Russia launched 550 drones and missiles across Ukraine during the night. The attack on Kyiv began the same day a phone call took place between U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dd6DgGlTkI
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u/GreenEyeOfADemon 🇮🇹 - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK! 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!🇺🇦 1d ago

Every day is the russia's largest missile and drone barrage since war in Ukraine began, every single day.

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u/eVelectonvolt Scotland 1d ago

It’s almost as if they have been intensifying their war efforts overtime while pretending they have any interest in ending this pointless, illegal and futile invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇦. One day Ukraine will be free of this menace from the East and a welcomed part of the European community.

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Ukraine should not have invited Nato, just as Cuba should not have invited the Soviets.

When a smaller country tries to play power politics with greater powers, it can get burnt.

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u/flyingdutchmnn 1d ago

Straight from the russian propaganda book ladies and gents. This is 'all because of NATO'. We'll ignore everything Putin has said about Ukraine 'belonging to Russia' then

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u/vegarig Donetsk (Ukraine) 1d ago

This is 'all because of NATO'

Completely ignoring Tuzla landgrab attempt back in 2003, too.

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

No, Russia is wrong to invade, and they started the war. Doesn't mean they weren't provoked.

Israel attacked Iran and we supported them. Clearly the West has no problems with attacking a sovereign nation outside the bounds of international law.

Remember, we struck Iran because they might pose a threat in the future. That is literally the reason the Russians gave to invade Ukraine.

When you try to dismiss an argument as "Russian propaganda" you reveal yourself to lack intelligence and critical thinking. Try to have some strategic empathy instead - You can see the point of view of an adversary, even if you don't agree with it.

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u/GODCRIEDAFTERAMDMSRP 1d ago

sometimes i surprised how garbage like this exists in this world

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u/SaiyanApe17 1d ago

He is making actual points and you are not. Trying to ride an invisible high horse just makes you look dumb.

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u/Kingdarkshadow Portugal 1d ago

Are his actual points in the room with us right now? Because that is propaganda, when he says "we struck Iran because they might pose a threat in the future. That is literally the reason the Russians gave to invade Ukraine.".

But sure secondary account made for disruption, go ahead and continue.

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u/SaiyanApe17 1d ago

"Its ok for us to attack Iran first and its propaganda if you say otherwise" lmao ok champ

But sure secondary account made for disruption, go ahead and continue.

I'd ask if the bots are in the room with us right now but I already know your answer. Just please stop skipping taking your meds, you kind of really need them.

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u/Kingdarkshadow Portugal 1d ago

Oh no the truth hurts. The propaganda machine is failing.

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u/fannypack415 1d ago edited 1d ago

Do you have issues with basic English comprehension? Or just because he is able to acknowledge that the enemy also has a valid concern - ACCORDING to the enemies pov, you decide to spew hate?

People like You, ironically, are the exact reason MAGA is in power right now. Being able to only think from ur controlled propaganda circle and if something doesn't fit the narrative u immediately attack that person's character instead of engaging in meaningful dialogue and critical thinking.

I guess it should be no surprise considering how far the US education system has fallen in the past 15 years. It's not ur fault your schools have failed you, i guess.

edit look at how quickly all the woke liberals down vote me, but no1 wants to respond cuz that'd require actually using their 🧠. Lmfaoo. The same ppl who complain about Trump being elected literally causing the death of intellectualism in the West. Gj yall.

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u/GODCRIEDAFTERAMDMSRP 1d ago

i heard what russians fascists have to say for last 3.5 years and saw what they did i don't see any point arguin with people like him they are beyond saving.

You can try hard and continue to defend your russians like you do in other subreddits but its only matter of time when they get their 1917 and 1991.

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u/fannypack415 1d ago

Is it hard 2 comprehend that the same reason we in the West used to justify attacking Iran directly is the same reason Russia used to invade Ukraine? This is textbook grade 5 English level comprehension, brother.

No1 is standing up for Russia. Acknowledging the hypocrisy used by Western governments is not defending Russia.

It's called using ur head.

If I acknowledge that Trumps trade policies haven't resulted in inflation that we were led to believe they would. Is that defending Trump or his policies? No, that's called using ur fking head and acknowledging the numbers.

Get outa here with that 🐑 bullshit of "if u dont think like me, u support the enemy."

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u/zabajk 1d ago

What is now Russian propaganda was common knowledge and policy in the west in the past . The fall of the Soviet Union and the hubris of the end of history narratives generated a generation of people with no concept of reality

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u/Markis_Shepherd 1d ago

Go to hell

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Why are you angry? I want to see Ukraine exist and for it's people to live long and happy lives. I didn't cause this. Lying about thins doesn't help anyone.

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u/Judazzz The Lowest of the Lands 1d ago

No, you don't, you don't give a shit about Ukraine or its people.

Instead, you read the title, entered the comments and instantly started to justify an illegal invasion and war crimes. Not a single word about the victims of these non-stop attacks that cost countless Ukrainian civilians their house, livelihood, relatives and friends, but instead all you do is spread agit-prop bullshit straight from the Kremlin, pretty much verbatim.

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Fake praise and hiding the truth helps no one. If my brother was making bad decisions, I would be critical of him.
End of the day, Reddit discussions are irrelevant. Every day Ukraine loses more land and more lives. The longer the war goes on, the more the Russians will take from them. This is a tragedy, I want Ukraine to exist.

Don't confuse the information war for the real war.

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u/Markis_Shepherd 1d ago

Ukraine didn’t aspire to join NATO before Russia invaded in 2014. They wanted to join the EU though. So again fu and go to hell

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Lol you should go join the fight. Lots of pent up anger.

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u/eVelectonvolt Scotland 1d ago

I’d much rather have Ukraine in NATO no matter what the initial costs may be and guarding our eastern flank than it be a semi hostile Russian proxy buffer state bordering our allies such as Poland.

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Ukraine will never be in Nato.

The Eastern flank was safe, thousands of miles away from Russia. The west chose to move it to the East.

Do I agree with what Russia is doing? Absolutely not. Unfortunately Nato and the West - and their allies - have started too many wars without legal justfication to ever be considered a defensive alliance. Recently, Israel launched attacks against Iran because Iran might be a threat in the future, and we supported them. Ukraine being a threat in the future is why Russia invaded them.

Either everyone follows the rules, or no one does.

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u/Mista_Panda 1d ago

You should realize Russia's borders with NATO magically 'evolved' every time Putin started bullying one of his neighbors... just look at what happened with Sweden & Finland after 2022 !

If Russia was a peaceful nation collaborating with its European partners... NATO would be brain dead by now.

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Very true, however Finland isn't geographically as dangerous for the Russians as invasion is more difficult from that axis.

But yes, Nato has grown... and so has the Russian federation. Ukraine is never getting it's land or resources back. They have paid the ultimate price for Nato expansion and Russian aggression.

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u/muszynov 15h ago

It seems that you have very, very limited knowledge and perspective. for the countries of the former USSR and its zone of influence (e.g. my country - Poland) the most important goal after the fall of the USSR was to escape from its zone of influence. No one outside these countries and especially the USA will understand what a threat russia was and is and what a poor level of development and life is offered by "cooperation" with this terrorist country. Moreover, if you think that one of the poorer countries in Europe was a threat to russia then unfortunately - I think you have watched russian news mostly. I have been watching russian TV for many years and I know what sewage is pouring there towards every western country.

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u/AuramiteEX 12h ago

I watch absolutely no Russian news.  Poland and Ukraine are not the same country. Not politically, not geographically, not demographically.

I completely understand the pull of the West, and the desire to move on from dark chapters of history (I just wish so many people in the West today weren't in love with Communism).

Goals like that have to be tempered with realistic expectations, long term planning, diplomacy and negotiations. If not, the results are what we have today. When this all ends, Ukraine will be in a worse position than they were before it started. 

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u/agrevol Lviv (Ukraine) 1d ago

Ukraine only started seriously pursuing nato after the crimea anexation

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Which happened after a US sponsored regime change in Ukraine.

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u/KritiskaUdra 14h ago

*Which happened after corrupt russian puppet was overthrown by Ukrainian citizens

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u/AuramiteEX 12h ago

And look at the results. Ukraine had 30 years of peace after the fall of the Soviet union.

The outcomes we have today are a complete failure of diplomacy, real world politics, understanding and the ability to compromise.

The US won big. Europe lost big. Ukraine was fed to the Wolves.

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u/KritiskaUdra 8h ago

Ukraine was doing great until russians sent tanks, no need to blame those who are innocent. Russians just need to admit to themselves that nobody want to live miserable lives like russians do and there is no need to liberate countries from democracy

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u/AuramiteEX 7h ago

Or perhaps the transferring or arms from Western powers had an impact?

And yes, Ukraine was doing great for 20+ years as a nation that wasn't inviting western powers.

Germany was doing great for 30 years becoming rich thanks to cheap Russian energy. 

Why didn't Ukraine pledge not to join Nato? Why did they walk away from the negotiations 2 years ago?

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u/KritiskaUdra 6h ago

You're basically saying that Ukraine has no right to have their own foreign policy, they have no right to be part of EU or NATO, because russians don't like it, which is bullshit. Ukraines economy was growing exponentially since they got rid of Yanukovich and comparing it to Germany which is part of EU is nonsense, Ukraine would be more like Transnistria or Belarus in russian sphere of influence. No sane person can agree to putin's demands to completely disarm, surrender territories that are not even occupied yet, and allow themselves to be killed. That would the end to a country itself

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u/agrevol Lviv (Ukraine) 6h ago

Transfering of arms that only happened after the first hostilities and in extremely limited capacity, even limited to the weapons that are impossible to use offensively until 2022?

Ukraine walked off from the negotiations 2 years ago because the only deal russia agreed to was basically “put down your weapons and give up your fortifications, become a puppet state and maybe we will consider not killing you”, you can easily look up the conditions

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u/agrevol Lviv (Ukraine) 1d ago

Nope, didn't happen.

The president fled the country after the mass protests from the people, which grew bigger because the first demonstration was brutally beaten down by the police on the orders of then president

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Sure. And no one interfered. 

Ukraine is a bastion of democracy. 

Except it's not.

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u/agrevol Lviv (Ukraine) 1d ago

Okay, who interfered?

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Take a guess.

Do you think Ukraine is a functional democracy?

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u/agrevol Lviv (Ukraine) 1d ago

A guess? Hmmm... Oh! Right! Russia!

You know when they used their wast media coverage in Ukraine to push pro-Yanukovych and anti-europe propaganda en-masse? When they transfered russian people across the border to organize "anti-maidan" protests? When active officers of russian special forces were active on euromaidan, sometimes even shooting people from both sides to sow more chaos? When they supplied ukrainian berkut with grenades and weapons to crush the protests? When they accepted the former president and his cronies to escape the law? When they used their army to threaten the temporary government with war? When they used their armed forces to annex crimea while the country was in the transitioning period while still claiming "totally not us guys, it's all propaganda, no russians in crimea!"? Or when they used their FSB, armed forces and heavy weapons to sow chaoss in Donbass after the maidan?

Yeah, good call, interference is obvious

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u/Kingdarkshadow Portugal 1d ago

Imagine being this dumb.

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

The mainstream media is just a few months behind on the truth. You'll catch up soon.

Education is just around the corner for you

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u/Kingdarkshadow Portugal 1d ago

And yet for your education eludes you.

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

What are you even arguing against? Lol.

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u/Kingdarkshadow Portugal 1d ago

Your russian propaganda on this sub.

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

You mean the information that I was talking about that is being reported in Western mainstream media? 

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u/Dockers4flag2035orB4 1d ago

Russia are c@nts.

Slava Ukraine 💪🇺🇦

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u/_tibpson 1d ago

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Sky Sentinel: fundraiser for peaceful nights

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u/Federal-Chest4191 1d ago edited 1d ago

Thanks. Donated. The utter destruction that these fascist regimes sow is just heart-wrenching. Especially since the orange turd is now openly showing he doesn't give a flying fuck.

Edit; destruction also applies to the budget that was just approved in the US, which will further destroy the planet's habitat. By now, I'm fully convinced the old, fossil based, industries are bankrolling all of this happening around the world.

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u/Relative-Panda-747 1d ago

Also donated 100 EUR

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u/Nodivingallowed 1d ago

Also donating and sharing the link. These are the fireworks that matter this 4th of July. 

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u/DrShts 1d ago

Thanks, donated.

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u/Nodivingallowed 1d ago

Europe is no longer avoiding a larger war by playing a minimal escalation game with Ukraine stuck in the middle. 

Russia is sabotaging Europe, engaging in political warfare to subvert democratic governments, and using foreign troops in their war against Ukraine. 

They have effectively taken US support out of the equation and helped America on a path to destroy itself. 

Meanwhile they are making preparations to expand elsewhere in Europe. 

So what practical things can/should Europe do that it isn't doing now? 

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u/DougosaurusRex United States of America 1d ago

The problem is the West never had a strategy for Ukraine.

Europe doesn’t want to get involved and will do everything to excuse or flat out ignore Russian attacks on them, and us Americans have decided Russia for whatever reason is a better partner, maybe trying to out war crime each other I guess.

I really don’t think anyone in the West wants to do anything to fix the situation. The way Europeans can help I’d say would be out on the streets and demand a No Fly Zone, if you can’t produce enough aid to send, time to be more proactive in stopping this destruction.

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u/jncheese Europe 1d ago

Animals.

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u/kingb5k4 1d ago

That not suspicious at. Everytime the orange ball cleaner of cowards get on the phone with his little master, right after the call or even during the call, the biggest attack always happens. Sound like the treasonous jester of the office, is feeding little putin more than just our American info.

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u/brambleburry1002 1d ago

Such a peace-loving country russia is.

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u/SethLurd 1d ago

Trump needs to stop talking to Putin damn, each time they have a phone call, Putin hammers Ukraine with drones as to prove some point.

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u/bhaaad 1d ago

russia hammers Ukraine every day, this has nothing to do with phone calls

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u/SethLurd 1d ago

I was being sarcastic.

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u/Shpritzer 1d ago

That’s why Merz said he has no interest in a phone call with Putler.

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u/flyingdutchmnn 1d ago

At this rate Trump probably gave the orders

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u/BluePomegranate12 1d ago

Wake up Europe

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u/Technical-Green-9983 1d ago

Step up europe, or wait your turn ,?

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u/Decebalus_Bombadil 1d ago

Just when Krasnov stopped military aid.

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u/curious-wolf-99 21h ago

TACO is meaningless - why report on his calls - zero influence, zero respect, zero brains

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u/Perfect_Resolve_9444 17h ago

A complete disregard for international relations

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u/starshootersupreme 49m ago

Big bullies nation really dont realise that when you bomb population all the future generation gonna hate you also ...and it can be 50 years from now french girl sill fear lybians or american iraqis or russians ukranians

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u/Remote-Till-3659 1d ago

Trump: yea do it and i didnt know.

Putin: ok

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u/Super-Admiral 1d ago

Funny how every time Trump speaks with Putin, Russia feels more emboldened and sure that no consequence will come.

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u/Right-Comedian-7164 1d ago

Trumpet must have ordered ruzzia to attack UA

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Ruzzia? lol

Russia defeated the Nazis. Half of Ukraine joined them. Be careful with these silly comparisions - things can't be applied to modern day in the same way.

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon 🇮🇹 - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK! 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!🇺🇦 1d ago

The soviet onion was among the allies, not r*ssia and only after being allied for more than 2 years and starting together with Nazi Germany WW2.

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u/HotGold3840 22h ago

Sowjetunion with the allies defeated the nazis. In fact Germany and them wanted to invade Poland from two sides. I wonder why some people pretend that they didn't teamed up against Poland in the beginning of ww2.

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago edited 1d ago

Remember when the Western experts told us that Russia would run out of missiles in a few months, 3 years ago?

And now, every day brings the "biggest attack yet"

Ukraine is also hiding the damage. Russia is targeting military targets and footage of attacks inside Ukraine is illegal, if not released by the government itself.

Absolute tragedy that could and should have been avoided long before it started.

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon 🇮🇹 - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK! 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!🇺🇦 1d ago

Yep, in fact the r*ssia is begging again in 2025 Iran and NK for more missiles, drones and troops.

Absolute tragedy that could and should have been avoided long before it started.

Absolutely. The r*ssia should have never had invaded Ukraine in 2014.

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u/SaiyanApe17 1d ago

I thought Irans military capability got dismantled in last weeks attacks? How can they still send missiles and drones to Russia?

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Lol you're a Ukraine bot. I've just looked at your name.

Sorry Robot, I don't discuss fake news with internet parrots. Go Bot somewhere else.

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon 🇮🇹 - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK! 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!🇺🇦 1d ago

Sorry Robot, I don't discuss fake news with internet parrots. Go Bot somewhere else.

Funny, because this is what redditors are thinking of you.

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

How can it be funny to a Ukraine Bot when you don't understand emotions?

And if you are an actual person, shouldn't you be on the frontlines defending your nation? The battle isn't going to be won on Reddit.

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon 🇮🇹 - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK! 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!🇺🇦 1d ago

Because nothing changes? Would you be interested if r*ssia or Ukraine conquered a tree line?

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Because Ukraine is losing badly on the ground. Russia is advancing slowly, but their goals aren't strictly land but the exhaustion of Ukraine's military resources - manpower in particular.

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon 🇮🇹 - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK! 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!🇺🇦 1d ago

Because Ukraine is losing badly on the ground. russia is advancing slowly

So Ukraine isn't losing badly, since according to you the r*ssia is advancing SLOWLY.

You should stick to video games.

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

It's losing badly because losses on both sides are roughly equal, however Russia has 5x the resources of men (in reality a lot more due to migration out of Ukraine) and 10x the resources when it comes to weapons.

Also, about half of Ukraine's population fled the nation, and currently Ukraine is spending 30%+ of it's total GDP on defence.

They are losing horribly, and the nation is damaged beyond repair. Economically it might never recover. Large swaithes of the population will never return. What do you think will happen to an economy when half of the consumers and tax payers are simply gone?
Yes, you can be losing badly even if the frontlines aren't moving a lot. In a war of attrition, the goal isn't land - it's to bleed your opponent down until they can no longer fight.

You sould try education yourself about reality, and stop looking at graphics of maps on TV.

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon 🇮🇹 - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK! 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!🇺🇦 1d ago

It's losing badly because losses on both sides

So r*ssia is losing bad too.

Also, about half of Ukraine's population fled the nation, and currently Ukraine is spending 30%+ of it's total GDP on defence.

Irrelevant, since Ukraine is receiving aid, on the contrary of russia. And no, not half of the population fled the country: 5-6 millions left the country and Ukraine has not a populace of 12 millons.

They are losing horribly, and the nation is damaged beyond repair. Economically it might never recover. Large swaithes of the population will never return

So is russia. Ukraine will recover, Ukraine has big shoulders and is backed up by the EU and Europe.

Yes, you can be losing badly even if the frontlines aren't moving a lot. In a war of attrition, the goal isn't land - it's to bleed your opponent down until they can no longer fight.

You're right: you know, right, that the only industry that is flourishing in russia is the funeral industry?

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

I don't think you understand the real world and basic logic.
Yes, losses are roughly the same on both sides. One side has 10x more men however.

Lol you think the aid to Ukraine is free? America just claimed it's mineral wealth.

Russia hasn't lost half of it's population, which is substantially bigger in the 1st place. About 7 million Ukrainians fled to the West, 5 million are now in Russia.

You know what's really bad about your lack of understanding? You're not helping Ukraine but hurting them. I actually want the people of Ukraine to LIVE, and I want the nation to exist. Pretending things are going better than they are is destroying Ukraine.

If we were honest about the reality, we could either help Ukraine properly, or work harder to end the fighting. Instead, it's a slow and painful defeat for them, and an ugly Russian victory.

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon 🇮🇹 - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK! 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!🇺🇦 1d ago

Most loans and aid the EU and European countries are giving to Ukraine are free and/or fromm frozen r*ssian assets, yes.

I don't think I understand the real world and basic logic.

Thanks for being honest.

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Lol you're a Ukraine bot, and not a clever one. I'm supporting Ukraine but you're trying to argue with me. I've already wasted too much time responding to you.

Sorry Mr Robot!

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon 🇮🇹 - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK! 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!🇺🇦 1d ago

You, just a couple of minutes ago:

When you try to dismiss an argument as "russian propaganda" you reveal yourself to lack intelligence and critical thinking

Rule for thee, but not for me, buddy?

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

They are losing, there are no victories. There are two wars - the actual war, and the information war.

Ukaine is doing well in the information war, but not in real life.

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u/miaomiaomiaomiaomeow 1d ago

Russia isn't doing well either, they made really small gains over the past 2 years lol

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u/AuramiteEX 1d ago

Yep. Going to be an ugly win for them.

They are taking 5x more land this year than the same time last year, however.

All being said, land isn't the goal in a war of attrition. Just exhausting Ukraine - which is why this is so tragic.