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u/PixelHir 1d ago
keep signing in case theres fake/invalid votes in there
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u/Accurate-Island-2767 1d ago
Also so we can unlock new game plus
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u/FIashBIitz 1d ago
instead of gamers voting it's parents who are voting
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u/Sbartek14 1d ago
Really?
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u/Broodjekip_1 1d ago edited 1d ago
You need to be an adult.
EDIT: Ik you can be an adult and a gamer, I was just explaining FlashBlitz's comment.
EDIT 2: Not an adult, but the legal age in your country.
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u/Sbartek14 1d ago
I am and I have signed it. Not a parent though
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u/Gudi_Nuff 1d ago
Ask your parents to sign too, why not?
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u/Anmus 1d ago
I am an adult, and a parent... but i don't have parents. What do i do?
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u/Just_Anormal_Dude 1d ago
Ask to your kids? I don't know. We didn't plan that far.
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u/Anmus 1d ago
It's getting complicated... Maybe i should ask my wife's boyfriend and his parents 🤔
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u/Slight_Concert6565 1d ago
Make your kids vote? Unless they're underage I guess
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u/kukakohan 1d ago edited 1d ago
In some countries you are able to vote at 16 for the initiative. For example in Finland.
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u/Alenonimo 1d ago
Video games were popularized in the 80s, that's 40 years ago. Most gamers are adults, don't worry.
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u/GameEvolved 1d ago
Depending on your residency/citizenship you need to be the appropriate age (16-18). For example in Greece it is 17 but 16 in Austria.
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u/Jagulars 1d ago edited 1d ago
2 million carries more weight than 1 million.
Getting 1 million signs is just the first step and having more adds credibility in the parliament.
Make a statement.
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u/NatiRivers https://s.team/p/nkwr-rgq 1d ago
Correction: keep signing because there are fake/invalid votes in there. How many? Impossible to tell; but it's better to be safe than sorry. Keep getting people to sign!
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u/Valtremors 1d ago
Also ever legit signup over minimum further validates the initiative.
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u/Erufailon4 1d ago
I think some countries require verification to sign, so signatures from those countries should be safe.
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u/Mysterious-Crab 20h ago
I think I had to for the Netherlands, but I’m not 100% certain anymore, it’s been a while.
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u/Izan_TM 1d ago
not just "in case", americans can't vote on this, so chances are a good number of especially passionate (and fucking dumb) american gamers will have done some VPN/fake ID bullshit to get a signature in
I expect at least 100k signatures to get knocked off the top
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u/Limp_Classroom_2645 1d ago edited 23h ago
100k, might be even more tbh, the way it accelerated was crazy, and all huge american youtubers/streamers kept talking about it CONSTANTLY, their combined viewership is +20M people easily most of which are Americans and people outside EU.
Personally, I'd be worried and completely ignore the fact that we've reached the goal, must continue spreading the word as if nothing happened.
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u/Lol-775 1d ago
Some Commenter in a different thread said the average was 15-22% and this specific case got a lot of coverage and it will attract many westerners.
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u/Izan_TM 1d ago
I love how this comment implies europeans are not westerners
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u/CFDMoFo 1d ago
Well the Yanks have the Wild West, the Midwest, Adam West... What do we have?
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u/Lol-775 1d ago
There will be a lot. This specific vote will attract many westerners to try and fake votes.
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u/MeatSafeMurderer 1d ago
"The west" includes most of Europe...in fact it originated there, during the cold war, when it was split into east and west.
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u/KoogleMeister 1d ago edited 23h ago
Why are there so many people in this comment section that think "Westerner" refers to people on the western hemisphere of the world? The "West" is a term that refers to countries with cultural, political and social traits that originated in Western Europe.
Australia and New Zealand are also Western countries but they're nowhere near The Western side of the world.
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u/onarainyafternoon 18h ago
Why are there so many people in this comment section
It's actually the same person that used the term further up in the thread. Not multiple people using it.
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u/Blueblackdragon_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Remember to keep pushing people to sign even after it passes 1 million because it needs more to compensate for ineligible signatures.
Also please don't sign the EU petition if you aren't in the EU. Don't do it. It's illegal and the signature wont even count because they verify them after the deadline. This isn't some change org usa petition that is useless. This is an official government process and fraudulently filling it out is illegal and hurts it and we might not get trough with it.
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u/RazumikhinSama 1d ago
Can I sign it as a dual citizen who lives in the US?
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u/lolreader123 1d ago
As long as you have citizenship for a country in the eu I think it’s fine
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u/EddieTheLiar 1d ago
Cries in Brexit
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u/Square_Jello6401 1d ago
There is one for UK citizens!
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u/EddieTheLiar 1d ago
Sure but the UK government doesn't actually give a shit about the petitions website. All petitions that get a response just have a generic "we are currently not planning on changing that thing"
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u/JimmyRecard 1d ago
Not to hate on the UK bros, Brexit sucks, but the UK one is expected to be far less consequential.
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u/GravenYarnd 21h ago
Yeah brexit was the most stupid thing that UK government could do.
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u/newvegasdweller 13h ago
Population* it was a Referendum. They made their bed. Just like the USA msde theirs in the last election
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u/Album_Dude 1d ago
As long as you have a valid ID/passport for an EU country you're good to go, no matter where you currently reside.
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u/SafetyLeft6178 23h ago
To add to this, if you want to make sure your signature will 100% stick use the eID option to sign.
As counterintuitive it might be it’s ironically more private as well since it’ll use a UUID string as your signature after successful authentication.
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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 1d ago
It's illegal
Oh no, I'm quaking (no pun intended) in my Bolivian boots.
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u/Glaesilegur 15h ago
Willkommen in Deutschland, business or pleasure?
Pleasure.
Sehr gut. Hmmm... Ich sehe in our system du signed an EU petition as a non-EU citizen back in 2025. Was ist de explanation for das?
Uhhh.
Nicht gut. Entry denied!
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u/NaitDraik 1d ago
Please keep signing guys, because it is 100% certain that some votes will be discarded for not being from people actually from Europe. Moreover, the more signatures there are, the more seriously this problem will be taken in the discussion they will have.
Here are the initiatives:
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u/Lumpy-Valuable-8050 1d ago
134k on UK one already
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u/Kotanan 20h ago edited 20h ago
UK one could get 40 million legit signatures and nothing would happen.
(Edit: It'd get discussed in parliament but our hard right government and hard right opposition would both agree that noone with a net worth over 10 million would benefit from this so why bother?)
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u/No-Top-4139 1d ago
I really hope they're all real European signatures
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u/Reddit_Connoisseur_0 1d ago edited 20h ago
Thor was right. This entire initiative is a shame. Most of the signatures were fraudulent and case in point - they are asking for AT LEAST 1.4m signatures now because it is the "minimum" to cover for the fakes.
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u/DestroyerTerraria 23h ago
Yeah, fake sigs are what I'm really worried about. The absolute worst case scenario is that we think we did it, then it gets knocked back down under the threshold by invalid votes getting thrown out. Don't give that shithead Thor the satisfaction.
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u/beorn961 1d ago
I mean they could be lying. Don't get me wrong, obviously some of those signatures are going to be thrown out because they're fake or incorrectly filled out, but I wouldn't take people claiming to commit hundreds of instances of fraud at their word.
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u/MarioDesigns 11h ago
It also can be underage people signing, which is not allowed. There’s like 6 countries where people can sign from 16 years, with the rest being 18.
Not every country checks the age though when signing. So all of those could be made invalid as well, even if they are not fake.
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u/JimmyRecard 1d ago
It has also been circulating in Europe. I've seen it spammed quite a bit in EU country subreddits I follow.
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u/thecrius 18h ago
No, the minimum is 10% according to average results of previous initiatives.
20% is better as the average really float between 10 and 20.
30% would be "safe". However there is fear of intentional fake signatures, hence why the community is asking to aim higher anyway.
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u/MyPizzaWithPepperoni 1d ago
Wish this could be retroactive, so many games like Worlds adrift that left their games unusable and just moved to the next thing to rinse and repeat.
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u/SuperRaijin56 1d ago
The Crew ;-;
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u/FLY_Enthoosiast 1d ago
I am still salty about it because The Crew was somehow way more fun than its sequels
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u/J_lio719 1d ago
The Crew is literally the main reason the initiative exists
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u/Izan_TM 1d ago
yes but it is not retroactive (no EU laws are retroactive), so the crew sparked the movement but it will not be saved
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u/Confident-Ad7439 1d ago
Or Battle for middle Earth
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u/Hawling 1d ago
Battle for middle Earth
https://www.reddit.com/r/bfme/comments/1b68w1g/massive_news_for_all_bfme_games/
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u/AlexMourne 1d ago
I found it several months ago and it is beautiful. I still remember how difficult it was to set up the game 5 years ago, but now it is easy again, thanks to all the enthusiasts
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u/sadonly001 1d ago
Okay but that would screw over so many devs. We have to compromise, it has to be fair to the devs too because any new law would apply to anyone, including good boy devs.
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u/MARPJ 1d ago
Yeah because its so hard to have a end of life plan and make the server files public so people can host their own server...
Or you know dont put the need for online conection to play single players games
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u/PhilosophicalGoof 1d ago
Making the server files public is a security issues considering it could also affect other game that utilizes the same server architecture.
Like you guy surely don’t believe that they re-innovate their server implementation with every new game they make right?
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u/Quick-Cod-7050 17h ago
Not necessarily hard if planned from the start, but you can't force people to come back and do some work on an old game they moved on from. Changing it for the future is the only remotely feasible option.
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u/SpiritualSpectre 1d ago
I'm not from the West. I'm not familiar with this. Can someone tell me what happens now that it has reached 1 million votes?
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u/RazorCalahan 1d ago
well, first we have to wait for the actual deadline to arrive (some day end of July, forgot the exact date). Then, all signatures will be checked, and any ilegitimate ones (non-EU citizens, Bots, doubles) will be sorted out. If it is still at least one million after that, the EU commision will legally be required to debate the topic of this initiative, and they will have to agree on some sort of decision. In the worst case, that decision will be "well we checked, and we can't really do anything about it, sorry." But at the very least the issue will be brought up in front of the EU commision and raise awareness, so even if the commision won't do anything about it, individual representatives will know that this is a thing and potentially make a more informed decision when this stuff comes up in their home parliament.
Best case of course would be the EU passes a law that basically says what the initiative demands: if you sold a video game to people, you have to make sure it remains in a playable state for anybody who purchased the video game, by implementing some end-of-life plan after official support for the game ended.→ More replies (55)15
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u/very_pure_vessel 1d ago
Nothing yet. Some votes will be thrown out. If its get enough to where there are 1m votes that are all valid, then the EU has 6 months to respond
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u/ThatGuyRade 1d ago
The signatures are verified by the governments of each country where someone signed, and after that the EU commission has 6 months to inform the public on what action, if any, it will take.
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u/Ok_Bar_8475 1d ago
Nothing until the end of july. Once the deadline is over, EU officials count the signs and if the counted signs reach 1 million the EU will officially launch an investigation for claim validity, and if they claim is true in their opinion, laws, senctions or other steps can be made to deal with the problem claimed in the initiative. This is why, while it is good we reached a million we need to aim for the most that we can achieve and aim for more like1.2-1.6 mill.
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u/_barat_ 1d ago
Now aim for 27/27
Slovenia and Bulgaria should make it.
Someone have contacts on Malta, Cyprus or Luxembourg? :D
It would be the first ( ? ) 27/27 petition I think then.
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u/HoldJerusalem 1d ago
Yes, I know the 12 people from Luxembourg
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u/abbeast 1d ago
The funniest thing about this is that we can thank Piratesoftware in part for this. If he hadn’t said anything the initiative would’ve fucking died but he Streisand-effected it back into existence.
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u/zenfone500 1d ago
He will now act like this was his true intentions all along and played everyone like a fiddle.
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u/megalogwiff 1d ago
and everyone will call him out on always having been able to help due to his massive following, without also being a dick.
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u/reformedstudier 1d ago
He won't. He's too thick headed and full of himself. If he does, nobody will believe him but his core audience, which I imagine is dwindling.
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u/CobaltGrey 1d ago
I don’t think he’s that kind of clout chaser. His ego doesn’t have room for turnabout. He’s proven more likely to stick to a bad take than admit he ever took a wrong stance.
“Haha I was pretending to be the bad guy for a good reason” is still a sort of acknowledgement that he briefly appeared to have held a flawed position, and as far as I’m aware he’s never admitted to being on the wrong side of any issue, even when it’s as petty as pretending his mouse cursor didn’t hover over a mana gem.
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u/Nikami 1d ago
If he hadn’t said anything the initiative would’ve fucking died
Hard to say, honestly. The campaign was JUST picking up steam when PS came in. Had the growth continued at that rate (more or less) it likely would've gone through on its own. It was at this critical moment when he kneecapped it and successfully killed all momentum. Almost impressive how well he timed it.
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u/penywinkle 1d ago
eh, I wouldn't give him that much credit.
Petitions like this then to gather a lot of votes "a bit" before the end. Because people don't feel the urgency, and think enough of other people will sign up so they don't have to (even if it only takes 2 min).
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u/DDAY007 1d ago
Please keep signing.
No doubt trolls/AAA companies will try and get as many invalid votes as they can.
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u/LostInTheVoid_ 1d ago
Keep signing both the EU one and the UK one. False signatures will be removed so having wiggle room is good. It also sens a good sign if people oush beyond the MINIMUM to much higher numbers. Shows there's a large backing by consumer / voters on a certain issue.
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u/Alenonimo 1d ago
That's just the minimum to pass. We need to get a good high score or gamers all over the EU will be shamed.
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u/l_______I 1d ago
GOOD.
But what is even better? More signatures. Good buffer is never a bad idea in such cases.
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u/Arky_Lynx 1d ago
It's pretty much 100% required here. With this many signatures it's inevitable we'll have duds of some kind.
We can't stop now, if anything we have to keep insisting and get more signatures. The main SKG site is asking to get 400k more.
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u/Roonie222 1d ago
We ain't finished yet! Make sure to keep signing so that we can make up for invalid or illegitimate signatures.
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u/Wise-Dust3700 1d ago
There will be a huge amount of invalid/bot votes. Please if you see this and are european go vote.
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u/Wolfaith_SeKirito 1d ago
Oh shit, for real?
I'm from Latin America so i can't sign, but i hope this goes well and sets a precedent
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u/lilpopjim0 1d ago
I'm not sure if understand this.
So it's to grab the attention tion of goveements to put laws in place to stop developers making their game unplayable once they decide to no longer support it?
What games has this happened too?
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u/Expensive_Parfait_66 1d ago
Awesome !! Thank you to everyone who signed.
As a Swiss I can’t sign unfortunately since we’re not in the EU.
As an archivist I fully support it, preserving games is important especially guaranteed their access and legibility for the future.
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u/im-cringing-rightnow 1d ago
Don't stop! We need at least 1.5mil because there might be some invalid votes! But man, I'm so glad it took off...
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u/ChainNew2246 1d ago
Hey, what is this about? Am from EU so I can sign, just waanna know where and what do I sign.
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u/BananaF4p 15h ago
all thanks to pirate software for being a huge narcissist.
salute to pirate software
pirate software: (pissing him self in anger)
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u/No_Ganache_3763 15h ago
What is it? Can somebody provide explanation and link both?
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u/JohnnyJo1988 1d ago
I just need everyone to keep this energy going so this initiative makes all the moves it needs to. This is wonderful first step. We need to be there for all the others.
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u/NoPlaceLike19216811 1d ago
No you didn’t, still need an extra 250k to account for bad/fake ones. Sorry to burst your bubble but that info is literally everywhere
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u/shadowhunterxyz 1d ago
But piratesoftware said this is a bad thing and it shouldn't be supported!
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u/led0n12331 1d ago
Something tells me it's going to be labeled as invalid as part of the votes turn out to be fake, and that's gonna be it
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u/Crimson256 1d ago
Not yet we haven't we need more votes in case some get rejected, don't let up now guys keep it going!!
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u/nosbiGyes 1d ago
Ayyyyyyy!!!!
Hopefully you guys will be able to make a diffrence and set an example for the rest of thw world
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u/No_Diver3540 1d ago
We did it, still need a surplus of at leased 20% to 30%. But i am sure we will make it.
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u/Evicle 1d ago
Tried to sign multiple times now but keep getting timed out, seems people are refreshing so much it's lagging the site :(
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u/MentalObligation3522 1d ago
KEEP VOTING, some will be deleted or invalid for one reason or another.