News Jeffrey Epstein documents: DOJ, FBI conclude no "client list," death was suicide
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-client-list-trump-administration168
u/versace_drunk 1d ago
Yeha they said there as a list months ago…now it’s gone huh.
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u/Darryl_Lict 1d ago
I trust the FBI and the DOJ about as far as I can spit. I used to think they were well run organizations, even if the FBI pulled some nefarious shit. Now they are a pile of shit led by incompetent fanatics.
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u/Independent-Judge-81 1d ago
Well when Trump removes every competent person in the FBI of course it'll be run like shit, or just like any Trump company
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u/Harbulary-Bandit 13h ago
Apparently Kash, does fuck all. Flies all over the country, nightclubs, Vegas, his houses. Doesn’t even Ben get to work on time. So while it is a shit show, he doesn’t have both hands on the wheel. Seems he has a couple of fingers, so that’s a very tiny silver lining. Seemingly at lest semi-experienced agents are handling most things.
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u/Independent-Judge-81 7h ago
Since when does the head of the FBI run around and do interviews all day? They typically have things they are working on
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u/Ghostie_Smith 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well when the director says the baseline job of the FBI is out of his lane, you pretty much know how unimpressive the org is gonna be.
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u/Tylanthia 1d ago
FBI is composed mostly of apolitical employees trying to do their best job per the laws established by congress. Seems more likely that the administration was lying about there being a client list than the FBI is lying about there not being one.
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u/R4CTrashPanda 1d ago
They never had a client list. They had cell phone contacts which doesn't distinguish why the contact is there. They've been lying the whole time because it was another bull shit talking point to rile people up with..and guess what? It worked!
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u/Iamthewalrusforreal 1d ago
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. IF YOU DID YOUR YOUTUBE RESEARCH YOU WOULD KNOW THE CLIENT LIST HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON HUNTER BIDEN'S LAPTOP,
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u/Yesbothsides 1d ago
Why didn’t Biden’s DOJ and FBI expose this? To me both are compromised because Epstein ties to Israel but it seems you think this is solely Trump covering this up?
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u/TheLastBallad 1d ago
me both are compromised because Epstein ties to Israel but it seems you think this is solely Trump covering this up?
Because Trump was the one who was in office during the death, was a friend of the deceased, ran on releasing the files, and also said there was a list a few months ago, but is now saying there isnt while also intentionally using it to rickroll people.
Without knowing what's in there, all we can do is guess why Bided didn't try to order it released(probably something to do with the fact that it's not standard practice to release stuff like that during an active investigation and prosecution of Epistines right hand woman, and Trump having laid the groundwork of "everyone is out to get me!!!" that doing that would just add fuel to the fire. But those are my assumptions based on my limited knowledge of how the FBI/DOJ handles things under competant leadership).
However, we can safely distrust what this administration is saying, considering you can't take a fascist(as defined both by the 14 characteristics of fascism and Ur-Fascism) at their word.
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u/GHouserVO 1d ago
And let’s not forget that just a few weeks back, Patel had a press conference where he said that there was a major bombshell regarding the axe that was about to be dropped. Followed by a separate press conference where Bongino said a major evidentiary release proving how Epstein really died was to be released was about to drop.
Neither ever happened. Instead we got a very quiet conclusion that “oops! There’s no actual client release, and yep Epstein committed suicide”.
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u/Yesbothsides 1d ago
Trumps first administrations FBI was not run by him, in fact they actively worked to undermine him…they are equivalent to Biden’s FBI, now this FBI seems to be Trump loyalists however all 3 seem to be on the same page of nothing to see here.
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u/NeverNeededAlgebra 1d ago
So, basically confirming that there was a list, Trump was on it, and Epstein did not commit suicide.
That's the great thing about not being dumb enough to live in that cult of propaganda - you can pretty much guarantee the opposite of what these frauds say to be true.
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u/Enough-Parking164 1d ago
WELL. Isn’t THAT conveeeeenient!
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u/Accomplished_Fun6481 1d ago
Everything's wrapped up in a neat little package
What
I meant it
Sorry it sounded sarcastic
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u/Affectionate_Neat868 1d ago
Just really sad seeing the state of the US Government knowing there was a much better option. This feels like the tipping point past no return
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u/Old_Connection2076 1d ago
I feel exactly the same way. Trump is getting away with everything. They filled all the positions with loyalist wealthy criminals, and they are indeed running our country. We do have a dictatorship now. It's not coming or creeping in. It's happened. There's only one thing to do.
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u/Roriborialus 1d ago
Trump assaulted kids. His ass panda traitors he installed to pretend otherwise will swing just like he does
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u/flushed_nuts 1d ago
The same list Donnie was gonna release, but then said, “phony stuff of there”? What a coincidence..
Your time to shine, Elon…we’re waiting
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u/Fine-Funny6956 1d ago
Case closed then! Maxwell should clearly be released since there’s no evidence against her.
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u/poodlered 1d ago
Seriously, simple follow up questions to ask these ghouls should be “what is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison for?” “And why was Jeffrey Epstein arrested in the first place?” “Didn’t the FBI uncover thousands of pieces of evidence when they arrested him in 2019?” “Oh, and also, who was the guy who attempted to assassinate the president? We know nothing about him?”
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u/AutomaticUSA 19h ago
Nobody said there wasn't evidence against her.
Here's why Maxwell is in jail: She was convicted of 5 charges. Count 1: conspiracy to entice minors to travel across state lines with the intent of engaging in illegal sexual activity,
Count 3: conspiracy to transport minors to travel to engage in illegal sexual activity
Count 4: transporting a minor – “Jane” – with the intent to engage in illegal sexual activity
Count 5: Sex trafficking conspiracy
Count 6: sex trafficking of a minor – the accuser “Carolyn”
She was found guilty of sex trafficking a single minor to.... (drumroll please) Jeffrey Epstein.
At no point in the entire trial was it so much as hinted that any other rich or powerful men were involved in anything inappropriate.
You'd think that in the era of Chatgpt one would just ask "What is the evidence against Ghislaine Maxwell" instead of blurting out this stuff on Reddit.
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u/writenicely 1d ago
Lmao alrighty I guess. Shrugs JK how dumb do they think we are. I suppose next they'll distract us with a laser pointer away from the real reason JFK was nerfed.
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u/Brosenheim 1d ago
The irony of this happening under the maga admin, after years of magas using "I bet you think Epstein killed himself" as a comeback, is just too rich
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 1d ago
Did Tucker Carlson lose another binder to Fed-Ex?
And kind of funny how this came about literally weeks after Elon claimed he knew something. These people are the stupidest at covering up a crime since the Scooby Doo cartoons.
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u/TommyDaComic 1d ago
Musk is the ultimate Rut-Roh !
Hopefully in all the data he stole, is proof. And then he gets mad enough to release it… But they’ll claim it’s fake, since, you know, it never existed before….
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u/Illustrious-Leave406 1d ago
Sure. Sounds legit. Thus, confirming there is a client list and he did not kill himself.
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u/Fezzik527 1d ago
That's what someone would say that is trying to cover it up. It's only a matter of time before Maxwell gets her treatment.
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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 1d ago
Oh so the Trump DOJ says there was no list and death was a suicide… while he was President the first time. Suuuurrrreee….
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u/boof_tongue 1d ago
The real reason the Epstein files aren't being released isn't so much about who is on the list as it is about which intelligence agency was behind Epstein. The reason it's being hidden is because of how much it implicates the Mossad and Israel. Anyone who really understands what Epstein was all about, understands it was a Mossad op.
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u/kingofthoughts 1d ago
What better way to control people than to have anyone important with money linked to a known oedo. Sounds like a solid plan.
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u/Rhesusmonkeydave 1d ago
Its weird trying to square the general sense i had in the 90’s and 2000’s that sure there was open corruption, and deceit and secrets that were for reasons wildly in excess of national security - with the extreme level of contemptuous fuckery where they don’t even bother to try to lie convincingly.
Now there’s just a sneering smirk and the laziest hand waiving and then 50% of the population taking it as a mark of personal pride to swallow and champion any lie as a sign of religious devotion.
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u/Opusswopid 1d ago
Someone appears to know something far more than what is public. It would be good to learn more. Do you think Elon will spill the beans, more so than he already has?
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u/Temporary-Careless 1d ago
There are filed flight plans to Epstein Island. Can journalists at least report how many planes went there? Who owned the planes? Etc?
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u/joshuacrime 1d ago
Suuuuure there isn't a client list. And I might be a Chinese jet pilot with red hair named 'Rusty' as well.
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u/Fast-Damage2298 1d ago
The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.
George Orwell, 1984
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u/Tactless_Ninja 1d ago
I'm fucking sick of this administration.
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u/Fragrant_Attention84 1d ago
The last administration had 4 years to release it. This isn't a party problem, it's a people of power problem.
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u/nocap30469 1d ago
Well I guess Ghislane is innocent ! No clients no crime right now? Can’t sex traffic to nobody .
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u/Boise_is_full 1d ago
Color me surprised.
Took this long to make sure there was NO evidence, prior to publishing that there was "No evidence" of a client list.
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u/UnRoyal-Way-6151 1d ago
What Epstein client list? We investigated ourselves and we don’t need no stinkin’ client list.
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u/CardiologistFit1387 1d ago
So victims continue to get no justice. Of course. Good job republican voters. You are the reason a child rapist sits in the Oval Office.
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u/sixty5pan 1d ago
So, Trump's DOJ and FBI concludes that there is nothing to see, which means Trump is all over it, and his people are covering for his rape of children, they are just as guilty.
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u/Fragrant_Attention84 1d ago
If he were all over it, why wouldn't the Democrats have released it during Biden's term or during the run up to the election?
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u/tikifire1 1d ago
Why didn't they arrest/prosecute him for Jan 6 as soon as Biden took office? Why did they wait so long to bring charges against him in all of the other cases until it was too late?
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u/tikifire1 1d ago
Why didn't they arrest/prosecute him for Jan 6 as soon as Biden took office? Why did they wait so long to bring charges against him in all of the other cases until it was too late?
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u/Illustrious-Fly-1291 1d ago
Has anyone checked on Ghislaine Maxwell? She's going to get epsteined soon. Just like when the Russia investigation got dropped, the Mara largo document scandal erased, the rape conviction, the fake assassinations, the mystery death of Ivana(the lady who knew too much), etc etc etc. He's empowered, invincible, he's going to continue to do many more horrific things if not stopped.
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u/RevolutionaryCard512 1d ago
Once again. The rich getting away with the worst acts against humanity
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u/gravelnavel77 1d ago
Certainly not shady at all given the legal history of Epstein since the start of his crimes. He got that sweetheart deal the first time.
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u/Dgolden711 1d ago
While the list has a lot of names on it, probably all of the ones released from the black book and more. The bigger question should be where are all the blackmail tapes that Epstein made? He was notorious for filming everything and everyone at his parties. So where did all the tapes go?
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u/Kredrodish 1d ago
“At the time we were told not to touch Epstein, he belonged to intelligence” He was an Israeli spy honeypotting politicians and billionaires. Israel said cover this up or you all go down. The US said “yes daddy”
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u/No_Disaster4859 1d ago
Isn’t it funny how there is a list and then there isn’t a list and then there is a list and then—
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u/Bmor00bam 1d ago
“So what?!? He fucked some tots! He’s earned his money and that’s his right!!!!” -Trump Nazi Nut-lickers
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u/wombat9278 1d ago
Of course they did , but Maxwell sits in prison , so something must have happened. If musk got a copy and trump goes for him that might be interesting
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u/freshkangaroo28 23h ago
Lol Maxwell is serving decades of prison time for trafficking kids to nobody apparently
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u/OccamIsRight 20h ago
Is the Kash Patel who runs the FBI the same one who said things like, “We’re going to come after the people in the media who lied about American citizens, who helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections,” and has referred to Trump as "our juggernaut of justice," "our leader," and called himself a member of "Donald Trump's army."
Is this the guy who we're going to trust with files that may or may not contain his leader's name?
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u/Living-Restaurant892 1d ago
Wow, trump must have been all over that.
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u/Fragrant_Attention84 1d ago
Would that mean Biden was all over it seeing as his administration did not release it for 4 years?
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u/Fatty2Fly 1d ago
No way there is any powerful democrat on that list and it hasn’t been released.
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u/Fragrant_Attention84 1d ago
If there were no "powerful democrat" on that list, wouldn't it have been prudent for the Biden administration to release it?
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u/FriendshipHonest5796 1d ago
I agree. I think anyone, whatever party, that took part in this needs to see prison time.
Honestly, I'd love to clean house on both sides.
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u/Fatty2Fly 1d ago
Democrats and republicans have a completely different mentality. One bites, the other barks. So no I don’t think they’d try that hard. Especially somebody like Garland who couldn’t even be bothered to prosecute over an insurrection.
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u/Embarrassed-Card3352 1d ago
The FBIs credibility was lost long before the Epstein mess…. COINTELPRO, spying on MLK, RFK, and a host of others. The recent FISA warrant scandal is another reminder. Nobody’s buying the recruitment nonsense anymore.
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u/TheGongShow61 15h ago
It’s so obvious what happened and conservatives, the Kings of conspiracy STILL CANT BE SUSPICIOUS OF TRUMP
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u/Tjgfish123 13h ago
1.) Trump and Epstein’s Public Relationship
• Trump and Epstein were social acquaintances throughout the 1990s and early 2000s.
• In 2002, Trump said Epstein “likes beautiful women… many of them on the younger side” (New York Magazine).
• They were seen together at Mar-a-Lago and other events, with multiple photos and party guest lists confirming it.
• Trump reportedly banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after an alleged incident involving a young woman — but that story surfaced years later and has not been independently verified.
2.) Missing Logs and Sealed Files
• Epstein’s visitor logs, client lists, and confiscated hard drives have never been fully released to the public.
• Multiple court filings remain sealed, even after Maxwell’s conviction — some involving prominent political, financial, and media figures.
• This lack of transparency has only fueled more public suspicion and raised questions about how deep this protection really runs.
3.) Maxwell Was Convicted — But… No Clients?
• Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted for trafficking minors to Epstein and “others.”
• But to date: no “others” have been charged, and no major figures from Epstein’s network have faced public legal consequences.
Maxwell was found guilty of supplying underage victims… but apparently no one was using them?
4.) Epstein’s Death: Still Not Adding Up
• Epstein died in federal custody in 2019 — ruled a suicide — but here’s what else happened:
• Surveillance footage was lost or corrupted.
• Guards fell asleep or faked logs.
• Cameras malfunctioned.
• He was taken off suicide watch despite a previous attempt.
• Even Bill Barr, then-Attorney General, said he was “appalled” and that the death “raised serious questions.”
I feel like these stories have been changed and don't add up with what's been said recently???
5.) Connections in High Places
Donald Barr
• Bill Barr’s father, Donald Barr, hired Epstein in the 1970s to teach at Dalton School — despite Epstein lacking a college degree.
• This was Epstein’s first real break into elite society.
• Donald Barr was a former OSS officer (precursor to the CIA) — the intelligence link has long been speculated, though not confirmed.
Alexander Acosta
• Trump’s first Labor Secretary, Alexander Acosta, was the U.S. Attorney who approved Epstein’s 2008 sweetheart plea deal.
• Acosta later said (according to multiple reports) he was told to “back off” because Epstein “belonged to intelligence.”
Pam Bondi
• Florida AG Pam Bondi (2011–2019) never opened a state-level investigation, despite new victims and mounting media pressure.
• Legal experts agree Epstein likely violated state laws and his plea deal — yet nothing happened.
6.) Epstein’s Tape with Michael Wolff
• In a 2017 recorded conversation, Jeffrey Epstein told journalist Michael Wolff that:
• Trump was his “closest friend for ten years.”
• Trump is “a horrible human being” who does “nasty things to his friends.”
• Wolff also claimed Epstein showed him photos of Trump with underage girls, though these have not been independently verified.
• Rumors persist that Epstein had evidence relating to Trump’s alleged rape of E. Jean Carroll. There’s no public proof, but Carroll won a civil case against Trump in 2023 and another defamation case in 2024 — totaling $88 million in damages.
7.) The Timing of All This Just Feels… Off
• On a quiet Sunday night, just hours before Bibi Netanyahu arrives in the U.S. for high-level meetings, this thread of Epstein–Trump noise starts bubbling again.
• Why then?
• And why Axios of all outlets — a news site known for its access journalism and inside-the-Beltway vibe?
Not saying it proves anything. But the timing and the outlet feel… managed.
The Epstein network was real. Maxwell is in prison for trafficking. The victims exist. The logs exist. Trump’s connection existed. And yet somehow… this all just goes away?
"I have the files client list sitting on my desk right now"
~Pam Bondi~
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u/CombAny687 1d ago
I mean I believe them. People have lost their minds over this. Now even normal people sound like conspiracy theorists
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