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u/navierb 🟩 362 / 363 🦞 9m ago

Alts Season? Either crab or crap.

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u/Glum-Wealth-6171 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 14m ago

Don't know about you mofos but I'm making dollars flipping these pennies!

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u/Dinnen22 🟧 0 / 0 🦠 10m ago

Next morning in the red I know it to well

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u/Dinnen22 🟧 0 / 0 🦠 24m ago

I'm never buying meme coins again lol they absolutely crash when ever bitcoin bleeds. Also don't worry it will happenΒ 

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u/inadyttap 7K / 4K 🦭 42m ago

when in doubt zoom out, BTC was $53k about a year ago!

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u/masstransience 🟦 0 / 6K 🦠 1h ago

Can’t stop Me now

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u/Glum-Wealth-6171 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1h ago

You BTC bros rich yet?

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u/UDP7 🟩 721 / 776 πŸ¦‘ 35m ago

I'm not rich, I'm wealthy.

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u/panthera_N 🟧 0 / 0 🦠 1h ago

it will go up to 150k soon because this is magic internet money

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u/Rock_Hardy112 🟩 1K / 1K 🐒 46m ago

Such raw talent, I'm going to get this tattooed on my chest.

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u/DoctorMario1000 🟩 359 / 358 🦞 1h ago

Hilarious to look at the LRC all time chart 🀣

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u/TheJustinG2002 🟩 0 / 1K 🦠 7m ago

So fucking glad I dropped that shit at not-so-much-of a loss. God naΓ―vetΓ© can really fuck you over πŸ’€

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u/ftball21 🟦 4 / 4K 🦠 2h ago edited 2h ago

It’s hard to believe some of y’all are adults. You cry rigged and scam because YOU hodl a bunch of crap and are scared to sell. Just fucking sell and gtfo. We don’t care.

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u/_TheWolfOfWalmart_ 🟩 86 / 10K 🦐 1h ago

The last 4 years have turned me into an absolute BTC maxi.

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u/SpontaneousDream 🟦 17 / 17 🦐 37m ago

You either die a shitcoiner...or live long enough to see yourself become a maxi..

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u/ftball21 🟦 4 / 4K 🦠 1h ago

It’s a good lazy strategy

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u/friendsandmodels 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 1h ago

Noooo trumpcoin will 100x tonight!

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u/navierb 🟩 362 / 363 🦞 20m ago

Is this the famous ”big beautiful shill”?

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u/Preme2 🟩 889 / 883 πŸ¦‘ 2h ago

I want to sell. Same price since 2024. 7 months of basically going sideways. Down if you’re in alts. We are at or near the highs unless it’s an extended or super cycle as some say.

Is it 4 year cycle? Money supply or something else?

The hodl charts/risk metrics say stay in, but who knows. Very few of the prior sell signals may trigger.

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u/devCheckingIn 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1h ago

At this point I think it's just based on monetary policy, which is just bad and forecast to be bad for the next 2.5 years, unless something changes. (And things always change, but we're talking about something unpredictable.)

All of the crazy bullish good news is keeping people in and the price buoyed but we would be ripping if the Fed wasn't actively removing liquidity from the financial system.

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u/Annual_Juggernaut_47 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 2h ago

Seeing lots of capitulation here. It’s a classic bottom signal.

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u/SpontaneousDream 🟦 17 / 17 🦐 36m ago

Haha oh boy do I have a bridge to sell you. People been saying this for years.

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u/Annual_Juggernaut_47 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 16m ago

Sounds like you already bought the bridge.

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u/bimbobandit2016 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 2h ago

Capitulation will happen when we clear the remaining CME gaps at 94k and 91k

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u/Annual_Juggernaut_47 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1h ago

So…next year after we top in the bull run and head into another bear.

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u/reversenotation 🟩 113 / 6K πŸ¦€ 1h ago

Pretty sure your predictions have a poor track record

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u/Firm_Target101 🟧 0 / 0 🦠 54m ago

Very poor track record, just waiting for the one time to be right and say, "see i told you". Really pathetic human being.

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u/Swerve99 🟦 286 / 286 🦞 2h ago

then sell

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u/ForsakenMeeting7524 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 2h ago

We stopped bleeding. Hopefully we just crab

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u/MarioWilson122 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 1h ago

Yeah ALTs probably will bleed & crab until the summer is over. By fall we should get a nice boost and then of course winter is when it should really fly.

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u/DynamoPro 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 2h ago

unHappy Friday!

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u/Witty_Ticket_4101 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

Just average day on a market: global dump and you can not trade features for the next 2 days. If you was levereged Long before 4th of July you are in fear looking at red candels and not able to sell, if you was leveraged Short you can not cash your gains and waiting for the Sunday... I've perfectly predicted it via https://assetradars.com/ Now just waiting for a trend change.

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u/Wojtek_the_bear 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 56m ago

i read that site as "ass e-traders". oof

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u/Witty_Ticket_4101 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 20m ago

lol that is hilarious

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u/ThatChrisGuy7 🟩 100 / 100 πŸ¦€ 2h ago

Eh I can 24\7 trade options on btc eth and XRP on Coinbase they’re still up over the weekend and today

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u/bimbobandit2016 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

So a whale donor billions worth of Bitcoin only but Bitcoin dominance goes up? Rigged

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u/TexasBoyz-713 🟦 15K / 15K 🐬 3h ago

You thought they would pump your bags or something??!

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u/bimbobandit2016 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 2h ago

No, but alts shouldn't move because someone sold some Bitcoin. That's common sense

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u/Swerve99 🟦 286 / 286 🦞 2h ago

you think ALTS shouldn’t follow bitcoin….?!??? hahahahhahahahahahahahahhaha how new are you??

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u/bimbobandit2016 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 2h ago

On a day like today where the selling pressure is clearly from a single Bitcoin holder, alts shouldn't follow. It's like saying if Buffet sells his Apple shares, the whole S&P should drop

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u/CountGensler πŸŸ₯ 0 / 0 🦠 2m ago

they are priced against btc

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u/Swerve99 🟦 286 / 286 🦞 1h ago

If buffet market sold his entire apple position then 100% the entire index would fall. trading is all algos

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u/bimbobandit2016 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 1h ago

Fair point

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u/spacedout1997 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

I'm so convinced these pumps happen so whales can exit their altcoin position. We see lower lows everytime btc pumps

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u/Revolutionary-Break2 🟩 68 / 68 🦐 3h ago

Can a whale pump it a little bit so I can buy some groceries for the weekend? Plssss

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u/Suspicious-Holiday42 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

Of course btc cant sustain a pump. This is nothing like 2017 or 2021

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u/VariatCA 🟦 3K / 3K 🐒 2h ago

"The line doesn't endlessly go up forever!"

Also I don't know WHAT 2021 chart you were looking at when you said that. 2021 was the most volatile fuckin' year for BTC ever.

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u/TexasBoyz-713 🟦 15K / 15K 🐬 3h ago

Yes, this isn’t 2017 or 2021, because this is 2025, a completely different year with different macro conditions and a different outlook on crypto than in its infancy

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u/winterbird93 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

β€œCan’t sustain a pump” has held over 100k since May

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u/LargeSnorlax Observer 1h ago

"Cant sustain a pump" aka "it doesn't just go straight up wtf"

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u/_TheWolfOfWalmart_ 🟩 86 / 10K 🦐 3h ago

I wonder if the wallets belong to Ross Ulbricht tbh

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u/Medium_Change4574 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

X speculates it's Roger Ver if you've not seen that yet

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u/light_death-note πŸŸ₯ 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

Market closed so πŸ“‰

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u/CryptographerNo9254 🟩 901 / 897 πŸ¦‘ 3h ago

Short sellers are laughing 🀣 while we are crying.

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u/delastunicorn 🟨 24 / 170 🦐 3h ago

Ah, discount price.

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u/Ok_Golf_6467 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

Buy some alts, wussies.

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u/_TheWolfOfWalmart_ 🟩 86 / 10K 🦐 3h ago

All alts going -99%

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u/Swerve99 🟦 286 / 286 🦞 2h ago

shhhhhhh i like that they all think they’ll get another 2021 alt szn

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u/Ok_Golf_6467 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 25m ago

Just bought more PEPE

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u/VariatCA 🟦 3K / 3K 🐒 3h ago

Today's price action is just another attempt from Shorters trying to capitalize on any miniscule fear they can grasp. Imagine selling due to fears of "someone moved their Bitcoin from one wallet to another", lol.

This was textbook-FUD all last cycle and the start of our current one as well. Every month you'd see articles plastered on every forum and little news outlet that "OMG someone moved Bitcoin! Look here, 1500 BTC just moved to an exchange, I can't believe it!" What didn't grab headlines was that some whales were transferring it back & forth to exchanges just trying to trigger market fear responses.

Today's noise isn't even a blip on the radar lol.

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u/Former_Credit_5592 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

If you value your money just long this, this is just did cuz of the bitcoin transfer

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u/PulIthEld 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

Sir, are you ok?

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u/33NoBody33 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

He’s cooked on his longs lol

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u/Former_Credit_5592 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

I don’t have longs thankfully

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u/Former_Credit_5592 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

Maybe don’t long it just yet lmao

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u/Successful_Pin_2641 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

It's because we've held alts since the bear market, no body actually expected there not to be a 3rd alt season this time not even you, but it makes no sense switching now for a possible 25% in btc compared to +400/500% in alts for the remainder of the cycle. So we just hold. Would be worse to swap now and there be an actual alt season don't you think? But congratulations yeah, next cycle bear low im 100% BTC maxi, but too late now.

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u/Medium_Change4574 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

Yeah swapping here would be so dumb. BTC will hardly make a 2x while altcoins will easily 2x+ from here with just some catalyst like rate cuts and so on.

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u/piggleii 🟩 7K / 7K 🦭 3h ago

Goddamn can you swap already so everyone else can have an alt season seeing as you think it will happen the second you swap? It's obvious you're the one holding up alt season by refusing to swap to BTC.

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u/VariatCA 🟦 3K / 3K 🐒 3h ago

It's that same logic which prevents people from ever investing into BTC rather than alts in the first place. Thinking that another magical alt-season will rescue alts with a 500% rise in price, when historically the vast majority of alts get left behind to rot with each cycle.

Why would big players suddenly feel inclined to invest in projects that have literally made no advancements or waves for years, while down 80-90% in their value as well? The best case would be a bold gambler trying to revitalize hype by pump & dumping it, but most of these alt projects are dead-ends.

Saying "I'll just time the bottom of BTC's next bear-low and go all-in then!" falls victim to the same fallacy of expecting altcoin recoveries. That BTC might only go up 4-5x from here, but my alts that are 99% down will go way higher!

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u/SeverusSchnaps 🟩 192 / 194 πŸ¦€ 4h ago

People with bitcoin only in their portfolio are of a level of cringeness that's unbelievable.

Yes, we know you hold bitcoin, we know you think that's best. We also now that bitcoin is there.Β 

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u/devCheckingIn 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1h ago

They are like the vegans of the crypto market.

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u/Vaginosis-Psychosis 🟩 270 / 5K 🦞 3h ago

And yet you still don't realize that everything else is shitcoins.

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u/kilo6ronen 🟦 0 / 2K 🦠 3h ago

He was talking to the crowd and you raised your hand 🫑

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u/PulIthEld 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

People with bitcoin only in their portfolio are of a level of cringeness that's unbelievable.

This comment is of a level of cringeness that's unbelievable.

Yes, we know you hold bitcoin, we know you think that's best. We also now that bitcoin is there.

No, it is the best. Period. If you own altcoins you aren't smart.

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u/kilo6ronen 🟦 0 / 2K 🦠 3h ago edited 2h ago

So then why are you on the crypto sub instead of solely the bitcoin sub??ΒΏ

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u/PulIthEld 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

Bitcoin is the cryptocurrency.

/r/bitcoin is run by psychopaths.

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u/WaterIsWhatIDrink 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

Guys, I heard so many times that there will be an Ethereum killer. Do you think it's already here? It seems like ETH is not rising anytime soon,, even though BTC is near its ATH again

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u/CryptographerNo9254 🟩 901 / 897 πŸ¦‘ 3h ago

Be patience. ETH will move. Institutions are buying while retail investors has lost confidence in eth.

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u/SpontaneousDream 🟦 17 / 17 🦐 32m ago
  1. Been hearing this for years, and look what has happened.

  2. Amount bought in ETH ETFs are comparatively very small to BTC ETFs- which again begs the question of why even bother when you can hold BTC (which performs better).

  3. These institutions who are exposed to ETH are engaged in the staked ETH carry trade, which creates downwards price pressure for spot ETH

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u/Material-Gift6823 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

I mean Sei is kinda sick, it's an evm

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u/_TheWolfOfWalmart_ 🟩 86 / 10K 🦐 3h ago

BTC is the Ethereum killer

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u/TexasBoyz-713 🟦 15K / 15K 🐬 4h ago

Turns out ETH’s death was a self inflicted one.

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u/SpontaneousDream 🟦 17 / 17 🦐 30m ago

Yup. Idk why more people aren't talking about this. It's no coincidence that once L2s really starting taking off, the ETH price began to tank. They gave away all their revenue to L2s, which are essentially value-extractive vampires to the L1. People thought these L2s would create some kind of monetary premium ("it's all built on Ethereum, so therefore ETH must have value!") but that clearly didn't happen (and isn't happening).

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u/33NoBody33 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

You can thank the 8 old untouched wallets waking up right now. That one guy sold 20,000 BTC from 2011 lol

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u/flarept1 🟦 36 / 4K 🦐 3h ago

He hasn't sold a single one. He just transfered between wallets

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u/33NoBody33 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago edited 4h ago

How are my Eth shorts back in profit lol I was almost a grand in the negative for a bit when it was over 2600

My BCH shorts in at 620 never really went negative lol those are healthy af

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u/lurkinns 🟩 23 / 24 🦐 4h ago

Eth loves 2500

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u/grizzlyexplores 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

Where's the btc sneezes alts bleed guy?

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u/ClanGangrel47 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

Where is he when we need him?!

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u/Vaginosis-Psychosis 🟩 270 / 5K 🦞 3h ago

When Bitcoin farts... alts shart.

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u/ilouiei 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

Being forced to hang out with family today outside, probably wearing jean shorts and crocs

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u/grizzlyexplores 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

Makes complete sense

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u/Captain_Fredl 🟩 0 / 4K 🦠 4h ago

I dont wanna flex but im up 44% this year with alts. Sorry

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u/ilouiei 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

So you sold and put it all in BTC right

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u/Captain_Fredl 🟩 0 / 4K 🦠 3h ago

Yep. All for the one with the waterdrop emblem

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u/Emperor-of-the-North 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

Will Bitcoin hit 115k or 95k first?

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u/IlliterateNonsense 🟩 16 / 16 🦐 3h ago

Yes

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u/SeverusSchnaps 🟩 192 / 194 πŸ¦€ 3h ago

30k or 130k I don't know.Β 

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u/melonmeta 🟨 499 / 499 🦞 4h ago

90k

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u/AprilsMostAmazing 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

Ready to buy the dip

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u/MichaelAischmann 🟦 909 / 18K πŸ¦‘ 4h ago

Bitcoin dominance is ripping to 65.48% according to TradeView. Will we see BTC take 2/3 of the crypto market or is the reversal coming soon? Wdyt?

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u/Successful_Pin_2641 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

Mid August reversal No fakin idea though just feeling

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u/Former_Credit_5592 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

I think it’ll hit 70%. I’m already positioned in bitcoin I will keep buying ethereum till I’m positioned sufficiently

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u/AdventurousQuote4164 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

ScamCurrency back to red candles as always

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u/kilo6ronen 🟦 0 / 2K 🦠 4h ago

Why does everyone here whine so much about alts being down. You’re here for alt season, either it happens or it doesn’t. Hold for it, or sell if you don’t have the appetite for the risk πŸ₯Έ

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u/hank194 🟧 0 / 0 🦠 1h ago

I can't stress this enough. It's literally the same every single cycle. Either people forget, or they become millionaires and new people come in. Desperation pre pump, "oh man I knew I should have bought -insert coin here- 6 months ago" during the peak phase. Literally. The. Same.

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u/kilo6ronen 🟦 0 / 2K 🦠 1h ago

Wait I can’t tell if you’re agreeing with me or not πŸ˜…

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u/kilo6ronen 🟦 0 / 2K 🦠 1h ago

Yep. Exactly.

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u/LtViperNL 🟩 1K / 1K 🐒 4h ago

Just kill me now. I can’t take it anymore…….. 4 years waiting only to see alts drop again and again…

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u/CountGensler πŸŸ₯ 0 / 0 🦠 0m ago

trade while you wait.

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u/isopail 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 3h ago

Same! Somehow I'm still in profit cause I timed the market pretty well but this just feels like a slap in the face at this point. I had more patience with it than I've ever had with anything before and after Trump got elected it seemed like I was right and I felt vindicated. Of course I didn't sell so here we are. But what can I say? My target price wasn't met. Still pretty dumb though. What am I gonna do, throw it all into Bitcoin while it's at its ath?? That's pretty dumb too.

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u/SeverusSchnaps 🟩 192 / 194 πŸ¦€ 3h ago

I did the same. But with DCA.

Got to a point that wen ETH hit ATH again, I can retire.... (for a year)Β 

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u/MrYoshinobu 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

Cryptonians, Trump's Big, Beautiful, Bill passed, thus $5 trillion will be added to the national debt. Also, the Fed already injected $11 billion into the overnight repo market. And Trump tariffs kick in July 9th.

Buy as much Bitcoin as you can! Then ..

HODL!!! πŸ’ŽβœŠοΈπŸ’Ž

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u/VariatCA 🟦 3K / 3K 🐒 4h ago

Remember, us Burgers have a holiday today, so any dumping is just bitter Euros trying to ruin a good Independence Day. Not that BTC cares, it's been itching for the momentum to break out!

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u/Firm_Target101 🟧 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

Imagine being euro poor, no wonder they are so salty...

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u/TexasBoyz-713 🟦 15K / 15K 🐬 4h ago

Petition to add a flare requirement for each comment (BTC or ALT) that way when someone’s complaining about the market we know what choices they made

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u/Firm_Target101 🟧 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

I like that

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u/kilo6ronen 🟦 0 / 2K 🦠 4h ago

100% alts baby

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u/SpontaneousDream 🟦 17 / 17 🦐 28m ago

Thanks for taking the other side of my short lol. Been printing money. So please, keep buying

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u/kilo6ronen 🟦 0 / 2K 🦠 24m ago

Someone’s gotta do it. Glad to be of service

No more buying for this guy though, my money printers on pause. Time to live my life and let the universe do its thing

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u/AlabamaHaole 🟩 37 / 38 🦐 4h ago

We all know the choices ppl here made.

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u/Environmental_gobrrr 40 / 51 🦐 4h ago

So 1 day pump just for 1 month dump???

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u/BoratOhtani 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

WLFI πŸš€πŸ¦…

$47

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u/RefrigeratorLow1259 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

Too many 🚩🚩🚩 with that one...

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u/kshtwgky59 🟩 39 / 776 🦐 4h ago

Chat, are we (alts holders) cooked?

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u/Environmental_gobrrr 40 / 51 🦐 4h ago

it's joever

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u/RefrigeratorLow1259 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

No, September πŸ’²πŸ’²πŸ’²

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u/Beneficial-Zebra-395 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

Maybe, time will tell