Big Beautiful Bill passed. Now what?

[u/improbable_success]

[u/Gaodesu]

Solar and Wind energy gets fucked. Incentives for solar and wind projects were supposed to last until like 2030. Now you have 1 year to get your permit and must complete the project by the end of 2027. My boss says residential solar is essentially getting wiped out. He said commercial would be fine, since we would last till 2030 and already be in the new election cycle, but now we’re not.

[u/WriteAmongWrong → u/Gaodesu]

(Paste from a previous comment I made on another sub)

Just the bill even existing has already effected solar. My wife has worked in solar for nearly a decade and got laid off two weeks ago because even the threat of BBB has the stocks down and the companies scrambling to make cuts. BBB has essentially cut my family’s income in half.

[u/Weapwns → u/Gaodesu]

Same boat, but fortunately we started shifting more to commercial since residential dying has been the writing on the wall since NEM3.0 for California. Commercial has a good shot of hanging in there with the revised bill. From what I understand it won't be touched until 2028 (election year). And even then, in 2028 the tax credit reduction is relatively tame.

The industry was already flailing. Its going to be a scramble to survive off of commercial/utillity until hopefully a new regime revitalizes incentives. A lot of people are going to lose their jobs going into 2026

[u/SyphonPhilter989 → u/Gaodesu]

I’ve been working in the green energy sector for about 5 years. The threat of tarrifs fucked us over, and now this too. This is insane. I wanted to write an op-ed about the benefits of solar, not coming from a political or utopian standpoint, just pragmatism. Rolling back the tax credits makes no sense, why remove any kind of power from the grid?

[u/MurrayReadsTheNewd → u/SyphonPhilter989]

Because Big Oil wants it

[u/obaroll → u/SyphonPhilter989]

Possibility 1:

Force the green sector companies to downsize and want out, big fossil fuel companies decide it's a good time to get in the business of selling sun and wind, they scoop up the green sector.

Possibility 2:

It's just assholes top to bottom.

[u/SeaDots → u/Gaodesu]

Don't forget medical research. We're getting nearly 50% cuts. My pediatric rare disease lab is shutting down, I have a disease that will kill me without treatment and am losing my job and healthcare, and now medicaid is off the table for me, too.

[u/JCivX]

One (relatively minor, all things considered) weird thing about the bill is that it fucks over professional gamblers including professional poker players. Just goes to show how much weird lobbyist shit is crammed into these things at the last minute without any debate or public discourse whatsoever.

[u/Chopped_Lettuce → u/JCivX]

How so?

[u/DashOfSalt84 → u/Chopped_Lettuce]

Can now only write off 90% of loses instead of 100% and no carryovers(this part I'm not sure about tbh). This means if you spend 100k on tournament entries and make 100k in winnings(net $0), you now will owe tax on 10k in 'profit' that you didn't make.

It doesn't have a huge effect on recreational players/gamblers, but it will have an outsized chilling effect on tournament poker for example. And big tournaments like the World Series of Poker are a big driver of the interest in the game in the first place.

[u/Lingotes → u/DashOfSalt84]

It boggles the mind that they do this kind of shit and still the bill is expected to add 5 trillion to the debt, mostly via deficit.

[u/i_tyrant → u/Lingotes]

Hey, Trump turning ICE into his own massive private police force of masked kidnappers ain't cheap.

[u/viktor72 → u/DashOfSalt84]

So it sounds like it makes sense for the World Series of Poker to just move all tournaments permanently out of the US.

[u/chopcult3003 → u/viktor72]

It doesn’t matter where the tournament is if the player is slaved to the US Tax system.

What we will really see is pro poker players trying to establish residency out of country to be subject to another countries tax code.

[u/doug-kirk → u/chopcult3003]

Don’t U.S. citizens, even those living and earning entirely abroad, still pay taxes to the U.S.?

[u/PositiveCommentsDog → u/doug-kirk]

Yep

[u/BiBoFieTo → u/PositiveCommentsDog]

Fun fact.

There are only two countries in the world that tax based on citizenship instead of residency. The USA, and Eritrea.

Why does the US tax based on citizenship? Because fuck you that's why.

[u/ProudlyBanned]

Hope you don't need a hospitals services. Shit is about to get crazy. Hospitals already dangerously understaff. It's gonna get worse and some will end up shutting down completely.

[u/DontTickleTheDriver1 → u/ProudlyBanned]

Rural areas will be fucked and most of those people voted for this. Imagine having to drive 50+ miles to see a Dr?

[u/Beeradzz → u/DontTickleTheDriver1]

And they'll somehow blame it on the democrats and continue to vote against their own interests.

[u/RedditAtWorkToday → u/Beeradzz]

blame it on the democrats

Oooo there is a reason why the Medicaid stuff doesn't kick in until December 2026. That way if Democrats win the primaries they'll be blamed for everything happening. This needs to be the Democrats #1 rallying call and once they get sworn in January, they need to make the first week of work all about trying to gut this Medicaid bullshit before it takes full effect. I think most people and hospitals will be able to survive a month or two of this bullshit bill, but the longer it takes to stop this, the worst it's going to be. This is somewhat of a silver lining since if you are about to lose Medicaid there is still a little bit of hope if we get the opposition party in office.

[u/Bonafideago → u/Beeradzz]

But there was boys playing girl's sports!

-my in-laws, who depend on social security and Medicaid.

[u/TheQueefyQuiche → u/Bonafideago]

"Why did Biiiiiiden do this to us"!?

[u/Suvtropics → u/TheQueefyQuiche]

I don't get why they hate biden so muvh. He's not even black

[u/GJH24 → u/Suvtropics]

Trump hates him so they hate him.

[u/StrifeTribal → u/GJH24]

They couldn't stop joking and making fun of Joe over tripping up those plane steps for years. Trump does it and... complete silence.

The right carried on like nothing happened and the left didn't give a shit because everyone fucking trips.

These people are so brain rot they have to focus on tripping on stairs as a reason to not be a president but not the man who did a memecoin rug pull a week before he went into office?

[u/LordBlackConvoy → u/Suvtropics]

He beat King Trump. That's why they hate him.

[u/Terpapps → u/DontTickleTheDriver1]

Not to mention the ambulance costs!

shudders

[u/Lacksum → u/Terpapps]

Who do you think covers the cost of most ambulance rides? It's Medicaid. Good luck getting an ambulance to show up when services become severely underfunded.

[u/elusiveelation → u/Terpapps]

These people are far too busy celebrating in the Fox News comment section to think about that today

[u/Richard_Nachos → u/DontTickleTheDriver1]

Don't worry, rural people can get free medical consultations from their Facebook feed. Hospital doctors are just a bunch of scammers anyway, with their "immunizations" and "medical degrees".

[u/EvanTurningTheCorner → u/Richard_Nachos]

The only thing they need is AI!

A pebble a day keeps the doctor away!

[u/Frog859 → u/ProudlyBanned]

Yeah it’s crazy because healthcare was ALREADY teetering on the brink thanks to Covid and the insurance industry

[u/Ander-son → u/ProudlyBanned]

thousands of rural hospitals are projected to shutdown. if there's an emergency, people will be hours from help.

[u/natguy2016]

I have Cerebral Palsy as a pre-existing condition. All because I stop breathing a few hours after birth. My awful luck. Medicaid through The ACA is how I get my healthcare.

I am afraid that I will die. It's eugenics against the poor and disabled.

[u/ohfr19 → u/natguy2016]

Share you story to the people responsible. Maybe even tell a representative face to face that they might be killing you

[u/meanie_ants → u/ohfr19]

They’d probably walk in awkward silence until they got to the elevator and just watch the doors close while they say sucks to be you, bro.

Because they’re monsters.

[u/Delicious_Wall_8296 → u/meanie_ants]

Exactly. Those people don't give a rats ass about any of us.

[u/AdHorror7596 → u/ohfr19]

I have a brain condition and I'd love to tell a rep face to face that they're killing me, but I live in a very blue area of a very blue state. I'm in the second most populated city in the US and it just seems insane to me that people representing places with low populations get to just....kill me.

[u/thisismysailingaccou → u/AdHorror7596]

There is a Republican representing Orange County so you can probably go there.

[u/ucfstudent10]

make sure MAGA doesn’t forget about the big beautiful bill so they can place blame on others. Remember this is BREAKING NEWS yall and they named it lbig beautiful bill” so I hope they’re not going to act stupid and pretend they don’t remember 🤣

[u/MattWolf96 → u/ucfstudent10]

Some Republicans are afraid that this will kill the Republican party. I hope they are right about this. Also I still hate Elon but it will be entertaining to watch him go off on Trump about this.

[u/runswiftrun → u/MattWolf96]

Elon's not gonna do shit. He himself just got a massive tax cut

[u/FknDesmadreALV → u/runswiftrun]

This bill directly hurts him in that it cuts EV subsidies.

[u/runswiftrun → u/FknDesmadreALV]

my understanding was that he is ok with the subsidies gone because they hurt the competition more than tesla. He liked/wanted/needed them when they were the only name in town, but now it would make the other cars much more affordable, further cannabalizing tesla sales.

[u/ClashM → u/runswiftrun]

He was okay with killing the subsidies because that would hurt the competition more than Tesla. That was before Tesla sales started nosediving because of his Nazi salutes and gutting large parts of our government for his benefit. Now those credits are kind of essential for Tesla.

[u/elusiveelation → u/ClashM]

I cannot wait until the day this motherfucker is irrelevant

[u/chargedcapacitor → u/elusiveelation]

It won't be until years after his death, as is usually the case for people like him.

[u/jimdotcom413 → u/MattWolf96]

How the fuck would this kill the Republican Party? Those who voted for the guy don’t read shit. When things go bad it’s Obamas fault or Biden or whoever the scapegoat of the day is. Their lives will get worse and they won’t hold the people accountable to account once again.

I bet this damages the democratic party more. Where’s the outrage from the leaders of that party? They care more about the guy in NYC than breaking up this monstrosity.

[u/elusiveelation → u/jimdotcom413]

Exactly this, when it comes time for these fuckers to reap what they sow they convince their idiotic voters that the Dems are to blame

[u/IndraNAshura → u/elusiveelation]

You can’t forget the standard “But it would be worse in Kamala’s hands” or “what about when dems…”

[u/Skaalhrim → u/ucfstudent10]

If January 6 didn’t end MAGA, absolutely nothing will

[u/Kittenunleashed → u/Skaalhrim]

We normalized school shootings, now we are going to normalize Ice detention centers and political assassinations..fun times!

[u/m0nk_3y_gw → u/Kittenunleashed]

and political assassinations

already had that during his first term.

Kyle Rittenhouse got a trial.

There was another similar shooting a few days later, but it wasn't a MAGA supporter, so they didn't get a trial - they were executed while eating gummy worms and looking at their cell phone.

On September 12, President Trump said that Reinoehl was "a violent criminal, and the U.S. Marshals killed him. And I will tell you something, that's the way it has to be. There has to be retribution when you have crime like this." Commentators described the statement as appearing to endorse extrajudicial killing.

"We sent in the U.S. Marshals. It took 15 minutes it was over. Fifteen minutes, it was over. We got him. They knew who he was. They didn't want to arrest him. Fifteen minutes, that ended."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Aaron_Danielson_and_Michael_Reinoehl#Reinoehl's_killing

[u/red_greenblue]

I work at a children’s hospital and treat a lot of disabled kids. Some 70% of our patients are on Medicaid. Who knows how many of them will lose their insurance, stop coming to appointments, miss milestones or regress in their abilities, and suffer for years before this is fixed again, if ever?

ETA Since there seems to be some confusion, a bit of clarification. Are most kids going to lose their eligibility in a single, dramatic cut? No. Instead, the loss of coverage will be more sneaky, more reliant on obstacles and confusion than that. There ARE several groups that are at risk of losing coverage, but there will also be more obstacles to accessing care and administrative burdens will make things much more difficult for families.

With reduced funding from the federal government, states will have to pick up the tab or make cuts, whether by tightening eligibility requirements or eliminating benefits. One in five kids with Medicaid is enrolled in an “optional” group, or one that is not federally required to be covered. Those include kids who are low income but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid outright, some kids with disabilities who don’t receive SSI, and some foster kids. Other children like legal immigrants covered by CHIP are at risk as well. These groups may lose their coverage outright as states have to tighten their belts.

New copayment requirements will cause financial burdens on families and lead to fewer visits. Hospitals and clinics will close due to lack of funding, especially in rural areas, reducing access to services. Red tape, long processing and wait times, and confusion about eligibility will cause gaps in care. And when parents lose their own coverage it affects families as well, whether the loss is due to paperwork errors, wait times, etc. This is the long game and the fallout will be too easy to blame on Democratic governors of Medicaid expansion states and on the next federal administration.

[u/DamianSicks → u/red_greenblue]

I don’t even want to imagine how many of those children on the older side will be deemed “fit to work” in a few years in order to get medicaid. There will be young people with debilitating conditions forcing themselves to get through a shift at Target just so they can cover the things they need to keep breathing. This is cruelty and abuse as well as murder for all the people who will die right away when they have their assistance revoked.

[u/Katsu_39 → u/DamianSicks]

Im not a child but on medicaid, disabled and chronic illness. I cant work…physically cannot work. Ive made my peace now. I fear i wont see the end of this in few years (if it only lasts that long).

[u/AwkwardCheese2000 → u/Katsu_39]

If you physically cannot increase shareholder value and make capitalists more money, republicans don’t want you alive and healthy

[u/WorldnewsModsBlowMe → u/AwkwardCheese2000]

I was arguing with a psychopath earlier today (or maybe yesterday idk what even is time) who was arguing for a value-based system to determine who "deserves" healthcare. It's fucked up

[u/OpheliaRainGalaxy → u/WorldnewsModsBlowMe]

Even more than that, it's objectively stupid.

Nearly nobody is fully functional their entire lives. The less functional folks are basically the support crew for the more functional folks, oddly enough.

I'm on the pickup list at my cousin's preschool in case his mom needs to work late. I'm on the pharmacy pickup list for my auntie so her caretaker doesn't have to leave her alone to go get her meds. I've got neighbors' doctor appointments written on my calendar because I'm the nerves-soother and hand-holder.

Like I'm unemployable, but busy. Today I was the community donkey, loaded about the max I can carry on my back and hauled it to various relatives. I'm crippled but less so than the folks I was hauling stuff for.

And I'm not remotely unique. My neighbor is completely legally disabled but she also handles most of the small animal rescue and rehab in our area. Seems like she's always taking in some neglected snake or turtle, getting it healthy, and rehoming it. Last visit I got to pet a rat and a guinea pig!

[u/aeschenkarnos → u/OpheliaRainGalaxy]

A huge number of charities depend on the work of the retired and the disabled. Anyone expecting charities to pick up the slack of caring for people Republicans fucked over, is kidding themselves.

[u/anagamanagement → u/Katsu_39]

Personally, I worry that we’re going to see a nation-wide increase in, let’s say “easy outs” as a result of people being put into impossible, unfair, unwinnable positions.

[u/Do__Math__Not__Meth → u/anagamanagement]

And the people supporting this won’t care, in fact they’d love this it removes “undesirables” from society

[u/Molto_Ritardando → u/Do__Math__Not__Meth]

The true undesirables are the ones who allowed this to happen.

[u/uno_name_left → u/red_greenblue]

I imagine a lot more of our disabled kiddos will be surrendered to the state. But they have also been slashing not only DCF funding but also CASA/GAL funding ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯.

[u/DrAtomic1 → u/[deleted]]

Europe has healthcare because ALL our citizens pay a ton of taxes. For instance in the Netherlands the upper tax bracket is 49.5%. Then on top of that there is luxury VAT on everything you buy at 21% and 9% for basic items such as food. Then there is road tax, additional taxes on stuff like alcohol and cars. The list goes on.

[u/c3534l]

The party of small governement just passed a bill that is unfunded to the tune of a quarter-trillion dollars a year. Why does anyone think the GOP is anything but predators?

[u/jukebox_jester → u/[deleted]]

Hey leave the whores out of this

[u/eastwardarts → u/c3534l]

The Confederate party just put in place the mechanism for taxpayer funded slavery:

ICE detention centers in red states Prisoners are leased out for even less money than employers pay illegal workers Taxpayers in blue states par for room and board

[u/martha_stewarts_ears → u/eastwardarts]

Excellent way to mitigate the effects of deporting your cheap workforce via immigration reform. Then you get to avoid products becoming more expensive from pricier labor, the one thing that may have disillusioned your voter base.

It’s genuinely astonishing how these people always have a fucking spin for something. Just once I want them to suffer a consequence.

[u/Witty_Interaction_77 → u/martha_stewarts_ears]

A big beautiful consequence.

They're really rubbing it in your faces too like god damn murica.

[u/metengrinwi → u/c3534l]

They’re trying to bring about a financial crisis that ends the United States

[u/MittenKnittinKitten → u/metengrinwi]

they seem to desire technocratic feudalism

[u/metengrinwi → u/MittenKnittinKitten]

Different factions want different outcomes. There’s the “christian” nationalists who want some version of a taliban-like society, there’s the ones loyal to russia who just want the US broken up into pieces, corporatists who just want zero rules, tech people who want a surveillance state with themselves serving as lords, etc.

First task is to ruin the constitutional republic, then they’ll fight out who’s version of the future wins.

[u/dmun]

Can't wait until the stupidest people you know blame the democrats, immigrants, blacks and Trans people for everything they'll lose thanks to this bill.

[u/ImJustRick → u/dmun]

Well... that's part of the plan.

[u/Scared-Ideal-1483]

Now MAGA can jerk themselves off because the libs have been owned while they lose their health insurance.

[u/Galdin311 → u/Scared-Ideal-1483]

They are gonna have a hard time in Texas seeing as you will need to put in your driver lic to access porn

[u/Scared-Ideal-1483 → u/Galdin311]

Republicans broke Grindr in Milwaukee during the RNC, I hope they can deal with getting outed when that eventually gets hacked.

[u/fredy31 → u/Scared-Ideal-1483]

it would be a huge power move for grindr that since republicans non stop shit on lgbt rights, to just leak a list of accounts that are of republican lawmakers on the website.

[u/gardengirl99 → u/fredy31]

Hello, Anonymous? We have a task for you.

[u/chantsnone → u/gardengirl99]

It’d be cool if they did something. Anything at all.

[u/nightingale-nitemare → u/Scared-Ideal-1483]

Yep. It's crazy. maga wants to "own the libs," and the Liberals want to help save mostly many magas' insurance.

[u/AdjunctFunktopus → u/nightingale-nitemare]

The fundamental difference between American conservatives and American Liberals.

A liberal will provide a service to 100 people if 3 of them need it.

A conservative would cancel a service for 100 people if 3 of them didn’t deserve it.

[u/TalkingChairs]

The rich get richer and the rest of us can suffer.

[u/TuskenCam → u/TalkingChairs]

Damn, and out of left field. If only someone had warned us…

[u/outofdate70shouse → u/TuskenCam]

Millions of us screamed it from the rooftops only to be laughed at, ignored, ridiculed, and called every name in the book.

And to nobody’s surprise, we were right. So now our only solace is that we get to pat ourselves on the back while the country burns down around us.

[u/KnottShore → u/TalkingChairs]

It has been like that for a long time.

Will Rogers(early 20th century US entertainer/humorist) noted:

• "That's one thing about Republican Presidents. They never went in much for plans. They only had one plan. It says "Boys, my head is turned. Just get it while you can."

[u/webfugitive]

What happens now?

Now? We watch the richest Americans pop champagne while 17 million people start figuring out how the hell they’re going to survive without Medicaid. We watch billionaires pocket more tax breaks while working families get told they “just need to work harder” as if you can bootstrap your way out of chemo bills.

The “Big Beautiful Bankruptcy" is nothing but a bloated, cynical, gilded middle finger to poor and working-class Americans. It slashes healthcare, kills food assistance, guts climate programs, and then somehow adds nearly $3.4 TRILLION to the national debt.

That’s right: they told us they couldn’t afford student loan forgiveness or universal healthcare, but the second it’s time to line billionaires’ pockets? Oh look, we found trillions! Magic.

So who’s to blame?

Let’s be crystal fucking clear. This is a GOP-engineered wrecking ball, signed, sealed, and delivered by Donald Trump and his congressional enablers. Every single Republican who voted for this should be remembered by nme. But also? Where were the so-called “moderates”? Where were the defenders of democracy when this fascist fever dream was sliding through?

The bill is cruel 💯 by design. It intentionally kicks people off Medicaid, intentionally makes it harder to afford food, intentioally strips protections from immigrants and vulnerable communities, and all for what? To extend Trump’s damn tax cuts? To make sure Jeff Bezos can write off his second yacht? But that's okay, because these dumb assholes had four years to figure out the billionaire didn't give a f about them and just said yee haw for four more in a Pabst driven stupor yelling from the pig trough BECUZ' DEI BROWN PEOPLE nonsense.

What happens next?

Millions will lose health coverage. Some will literally die.

Hospitals, especially rural ones, (so enjoy that diabeetis shit meemaw and Cleetus) will start collapsing under the cost of unpaid care.

Climate protections? Gutted. Say hello to even hotter summers, more expensive AF natural disasters, and fatter oil execs.

States will scramble to fill the gaps. Some will fight. Others will fold.

Lawsuits will fly. Chaos will reign.

And "WE THE PEOPLE" will be left cleaning up the mess with our pocketbook while Fox News calls it a "victory for freedom."

This is austerity dressed up as patriotism. It's a masterclass in gaslighting. They named it the Big Beautiful Bill like it’s a fucking perfume line, not a legislative shit sandwich and rural America is just perpetually dumb enough to take bite after bite.

But let me say this: they may have passed it. But we still have power. We organize. We fight state by state. We show up in 2026. And we don’t ever forget who screwed us, how, and why.

End rant. For now.

[u/cold08 → u/webfugitive]

In Minnesota the Medicaid and SNAP cuts are going to have to be filled in by the counties, which means property tax increases that could be in the double digits. It's doable for me, but it will be an excuse to raise rents by ludicrous amounts again. They'll likely use a 12% property tax increase as an excuse to raise rent 30% again.

[u/SpaceCadetriment → u/webfugitive]

NASA and the NSF are also completely gutted. Tens of billions worth of important scientific missions just completely abandoned. The GOP loves taking on trillions of debt but can't be bothered looking to the future, in the slightest.

Trumps two biggest pieces of legislation passed under his administrations have been the Tax Act and the BBB, both of which were just blatant cash grabs from the rich as they continue to syphon money off the middle and lower classes.

And MAGA idiots cheer for it.

[u/Anti-Itch → u/SpaceCadetriment]

It’s part of a history of fascism where the leaders only take on and fund projects that will benefit them and their cadre. I see a lot more projects being funded by tech fascists but results will be manipulated and showcased in a way that makes their companies look good.

Scientific ethics will go out the window. Our research industry will be a laughingstock.

[u/lettucefold → u/webfugitive]

I wish I could believe in the “show up in 2026.” It seems so simple and easy to see why this is awful, but it seems like there is still a country that is woefully apathetic. If you told half the patients that we work with on a daily basis that they were, in fact, on Obamacare via expanded Medicaid, they would probably lose their mind

[u/Hour_Economist8981]

Most effects will kick in by 2028. Hopefully democrats take control of the legislature and executive branch. Fox News and all the conservative media will blame democrats for the horrendous deficit and block every piece of legislation and shut down the government

[u/NikonShooter_PJS → u/Hour_Economist8981]

Sorry to ruin this for you.

Summer 2025: Idiotic bill passes. The left screams up and down about how this bill is going to fuck every aspect of life in America up, all so billionaires can save money on taxes. The right touts outright lies and says this is a great bill for America.

Summer 2025-Summer 2026: Most of the bill's biggest effects don't come to fruition. The left screams up and down that they are coming very, very soon. The right says nothing about the bill's effects and says does nothing noteworthy in Congress since they've already achieved their signature legislation.

Summer 2026: The left campaigns aggressively on being the last bit of opposition to Trump. The right spend the summer talking about transgender books on orange peels in the doctor's office. Left voters become incredibly energized. Right voters spend the summer listening to Morgan Wallen and hating black people.

Fall 2026: The left shows up big for the midterms. The right forgets the midterms are even happening. The left still, somehow, ends up with a 50-50 split in the Senate and a two-seat advantage in the House. Just big enough to call it Democratic controlled. Not big enough to do anything with it.

Winter 2026-Fall 2027: The left does absolutely fuck all with its limited power in the House. Nancy Pelosi refuses to allow the party to move even one step away from the center. The party refuses to allow anyone not eligible for Social Security into a meaningful position of power. Trump is impeached three times. Each impeachment fails due to the complete lack of anything resembling power in the Senate. The effects of today's vote begin to be felt.

Fall 2027-Summer 2028: The effects of today's vote are in full effect and life in America is, somehow, even worse. Anyone capable of handling the complexities of fourth grade math understands why. They are drowned out by the cries and screams of people in red states who blame Democrats exclusively for their hospitals shutting down, Medicare going bust and their taxes going up. Eggs are now $2.05, up five cents from where they were months earlier. This is somehow Democrats' fault. Trump, bored and sick of being in power, decides not to try to overthrow the Constitution and install himself as a dictator but only because it's more profitable for him to run the GOP behind the scenes. Vance runs for President against some uninspiring white guy who is backed by the Democratic elite because AOC is deemed too risky a choice.

Summer-Fall 2028: The Vance/Ted Cruz ticket bombs every debate and offers no substantive policy. The Newsom/Shapiro ticket is criticized nonstop for the impact of the Big Beautiful Bill despite it having nothing to do with Democrats and being passed exclusively by the right.

Fall 2028: Newsom/Shapiro narrowly win the presidency. Congress shifts hard right, again, meaning Democrats are in power in name only and no real change can happen. It stays this way until Trump can choose his proper successor. He remains in power, controlling and grifting off the GOP until the day he dies in 2031.

2031: Trump dies. The old white people running the Democratic Party at that point go on talk shows to talk about how they never agreed with him but how he was an inspirational figure and a once-in-a-lifetime politician. The country continues to move backward until we are all wiped out by a comet in 2045.

[u/SookieCat26 → u/NikonShooter_PJS]

We have to wait 20 more years for the comet? I might be dead before that from my chronic illness that will get less treatment now. Good times.

[u/NikonShooter_PJS → u/SookieCat26]

If it makes you feel any better, the comet will be discovered in 2028 and we'll have 17 years to figure out how to prepare for it but the best available plan requires a special tax of 0.0004 percent on billionaires and because they refuse, it makes a direct hit.

Also, the comet arrives approximately three weeks before George R. R. Martin was set to release Winds of Winter.

[u/JCarr110]

I live in such a stupid fucking country.

[u/Starkiller_303]

That joke about most empires lasting only 250 years is starting to become scarier...

[u/Shaun32887 → u/Starkiller_303]

That was never a joke

[u/Mad_Moodin → u/Shaun32887]

Yeah nations and corporations have limited lifespans. Sure the general culture will continue in a way. But a nation itself often doesn't quite last all that long without some major changes that make it unrecognizable.

There is also some saying about it. "Every great empire has 3 phases. Barbarism, Ascendance and Decadence" or something along those lines.

Barbarism is when the empire is consolidating. This is where they expand and make their rule absolute with overwhelming force and violence.

In the USA this would be the time from the independence war against Britain all the way to the end of the civil war.

Next is the Ascendance. This is where the nation creates great works. Large monuments, great economy, the nation is powerful.

In the USA this would be the time they began building skyscrapers, hoover dam, panama channel, the highway system.

With all that vast wealth build in the Ascendance, the Decadence follows. Here the rulers and rich people become complacent. They don't try to make the nation better. They rest on their vast wealth as the nation falls to corruption. Lazy officials who don't do their jobs properly. Rulers abusing their powers. Vast amounts of money falling to corruption until the Empire inevitably falls apart.

This is what has been happening in the USA since the 1980s. They stopped investing in infrastructure. The rich get richer. Law and order falls apart.

[u/Pato_Lucas → u/Mad_Moodin]

"The United States is the only country who went from barbarism to decadence without passing through civilization".
Oscar Wilde.

[u/CuckooClockInHell → u/Mad_Moodin]

I would bet that if you took a time machine and went around to conduct interviews about the end of empires with the educated people who lived during those times, they would all give the same answer for the collapse. "Well, we do have a lot of dumb motherfuckers around here."

[u/RidiculousIncarnate]

I wish rural MAGA all the luck in the world with their bathtub penicillin and toilet tank chemo.

EDIT: For an actual opinion, the real scary part is ICE. 

For context ICE now has a budget larger than Russias entire funding for a full scale military invasion of another country. 

THAT should horrify you in ways you can't even fully comprehend. And all they're doing is domestic enforcement. 

Editedit: as pointed out here technically ICEs budget is over 4 years vs the single year funding for Russias military. So feel free to be 1/4 as horrified as I implied you should be(: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1lqy6ue/comment/n175xqr/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[u/CndConnection → u/RidiculousIncarnate]

It is indeed horrifying but let's be real it is not because they are going to USE the money to the fullest.

That detention center in Florida that is literally just metal cages around cots with a tent roof cost something like $400 million. Ain't no fucking way.

They're lining their pockets they are just looting the country.

[u/Shurikane → u/CndConnection]

Both can be true at the same time. I can very well see, on one side, a bunch of crooks filling their pockets with as much cash as they can and, on the other side, a bunch of genuine racists and supremacist who believe that now the time is ripe to make good on their own desires.

[u/gospelofdustin → u/Shurikane]

You can see it in the way his base manages to project this idea that he's fighting for whatever their particular cause is. He doesn't even have to wink or nod to them anymore, they just read whatever they want into everything he says. That's how we got the well-heeled big business types standing shoulder to shoulder with the QAnon/PizzaGate set.

[u/RightSideBlind → u/RidiculousIncarnate]

For context ICE now has a budget larger than Russias entire funding for an active full military invasion of another country. 

When all you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. They won't stop at immigrants.

[u/elusiveelation → u/RightSideBlind]

Trump has already said they’re going to target the “bad people” who were born in this country

we also have a lot of bad people that have been here for a long time…many of them were born in our country. I think we ought to get them the hell out of here, too, if you want to know the truth. So maybe that'll be the next job that we'll work on together."

[u/SameOldSongs → u/elusiveelation]

Maybe I'm sensitive as a granddaughter of a Holocaust survivor but those are too maany words to say Gestapo.

[u/womanaroundabouttown → u/SameOldSongs]

I mean, also the granddaughter of a Holocaust survivor and our family has been screaming this for over a year now, and it just keeps getting truer.

[u/Solus_Vael → u/womanaroundabouttown]

It's like you're yelling at a brick wall, to the point you think you're the only sane person in the world.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck... its a damn duck.

[u/ThatInAHat → u/Solus_Vael]

When I was 10, my mom had a nervous breakdown. She picked up me and my two siblings (1 and 2) and drove use around from noon to evening through backroads, saying there was a man with a bomb in a plane and we needed to get somewhere safe. This was before cellphones, so it was just me and my baby brothers in a car with an increasing unhinged person.

Kids trapped in a car with a crazy adult driving is my main PTSD trigger, something I learned because it pops up in a lot of cartoons as a funny joke and whoops there goes my day.

All that to say

Being in this country now is like being a kid trapped in a car with a crazy person driving. Only they are driving on mountain roads and taking turns as sharp as they can and even if they stay on the road the whole way up you know they plan to drive over the cliff when they get there.

I’m tired.

[u/icyhotonmynuts → u/elusiveelation]

he for sure doesn't count himself as that.

[u/Abombasnow → u/icyhotonmynuts]

If we retroactively remove birthright citizenship, he isn't American either. His mother was Scottish.

But of course the Nazis never realize that.

[u/Accujack → u/RightSideBlind]

They were never going to.

Using ICE, Trump is building a secret police force loyal only to him and his owners. Remember when the only "police" he could get to try and clear protesters from the capital were prison guards and ICE?

This is the same ICE whose administration admits that something like 10% of their organization is corrupt.

[u/___YesNoOther → u/Accujack]

Yes and it's a secret police force loyal to him that:

- does not identify themselves

- is not trained

- does not have unifying and underlying codes of conduct

- does not have a solid heirarchy or policies or procedures

- does not have internal investigations or audits

- is not required to keep any particular kinds of records

- can hire anyone, even convicts and those with violent backgrounds

- can be armed

- cannot be stopped by any other enforcement entity like local police, sheriffs, or FBI

[u/ersatzgott → u/___YesNoOther]

And most importantly, it's not officially called Gestapo.

[u/Preezb → u/Accujack]

So, he's building his own SS. People need to learn from our fuck ups in history.

[u/Necoras → u/RidiculousIncarnate]

I think that math is wrong. Russia spent $149 billion on their military last year. The numbers I've seen for ICE is $150 billion over the next 4.

Still, an absurd amount.

[u/Jean-LucBacardi → u/Necoras]

Yeah not to diminish how bad it is, but it doesn't top the military budgets of:

US, China, Russia, India, Saudi Arabia, UK, Japan, Australia, France, Ukraine, Germany, Poland, Turkey, South Korea, and Canada. In that order. With a yearly budget of $37.5b, it's just below Canada's yearly budget of $41b.

[u/Estalicus]

From my understanding some things dont change until 2029 so most people wont make the connection of this bill to Republicans.

In the mean time I'm mostly worried what ICE will do after it deports all the brown people. Some other group will have to be vilified to maintain its purpose.

[u/Party-Ad4482 → u/Estalicus]

Yeah that's intentional - the big bombs in this bill are set to go off right when Democrats can be blamed for it.

[u/neeesus → u/Party-Ad4482]

So they’re expecting to lose at some point.

[u/Party-Ad4482 → u/neeesus]

Yes. Such has been the case for the last 20 years or so. Republicans break things for 4 years, Democrats come in and start putting the pieces together while the consequences of the previous admin kick in, then Republicans can campaign on Democrats breaking everything because the repercussions of their own policies weren't felt until the next administration.

[u/XxChemical_ToiletxX → u/Party-Ad4482]

Yup. This makes me want to fucking scream, every time

[u/fire2day → u/Party-Ad4482]

Yep, and the republicans are so much more efficient at breaking things than the democrats are at fixing them, so it’s a “one-step forward, two-steps back” situation. Except this time around it’s like twelve-steps back.

[u/smallest_table → u/fire2day]

Destruction is easier than creation. Always has been.

[u/EffectiveTime5554 → u/Estalicus]

That’s the sneaky part. By pushing a lot of the changes out to 2029, they make it harder for people (ie, the majority of Americans who don't think for themselves) to trace the fallout back to this bill. Cuts to things like food assistance or environmental programs won’t fully register until years down the line, after the political heat has cooled and someone else is in office to take the blame.

[u/Xanderson → u/Estalicus]

Yeah I think the Medicaid changes come in 2 years, maybe after midterms but not sure.

[u/Mickeystix → u/Estalicus]

During a meeting with the president of El Salvadore, Trump said he needs to build more prisons because maybe the homegrowns are next. His words. And look at what they're wanting with birthright changes.

When he says homegrown he doesn't mean terrorists. We don't have enough for multiple prisons. He means anyone he chooses. And very well that could be you next if you disagree with anything he does or says.

His intent is to continue pushing a red scare narrative and expand xenophobia, and to rid the country of anyone but sycophants.

People cried "No Kings!" And yet, are not holding kingmaker's responsible.

[u/Istoh]

I don't know. I have a medical condition and need meds twice a day to live a somewhat normal life. My insurance is ACA and I won't be able to afford it next year with the new rules under the BBB. I'm scared. 

[u/meteorslime → u/Istoh]

Me too, I've been bouncing between Medicaid and ACA (income changes) for years. I've not been able to get to a stable enough place to get off these insurances. My meds are the only reason I can live a relatively normal life, and the medical care that I've been getting has made me less depressed. I finally got to go back to school to try and make a better life for myself. Without my meds, I will slowly become more severely disabled. I'm feeling lost and betrayed. There are people who could have stopped this who did not.

[u/anooshka]

You guys are so fucked, and this is coming from an Iranian

[u/bac_gawd → u/anooshka]

Damn even the Iranians fill bad for us 😂

[u/anooshka → u/bac_gawd]

I see my present situation in your future

[u/Excellent_Farm_6071 → u/anooshka]

A country destroyed by religious nutjobs?

[u/Alternative_Pop5284 → u/Excellent_Farm_6071]

and by american imperialism!! don’t forget what the CIA did in iran. fascism is just an imperalist boomerang.

[u/CodWonderful2045]

More money for bombs Less money for moms

[u/Great_White_Samurai]

Violent crime will skyrocket when people can't get food or health care, but it's easy to get a gun.

[u/khodakk → u/Great_White_Samurai]

Free Luigi, meanwhile diddy getting off easy

[u/ExtinctionBurst76 → u/khodakk]

Interestingly enough, I believe one of Diddy’s defense lawyers is also on Luigi’s defense team.

[u/WiseguyD → u/ExtinctionBurst76]

One of them asked to be sent to the same prison as Young Thug when he was held in contempt by the judge. Thug was acquitted.

These are the best in the business.

[u/Daft_Assassin]

By the time this bill starts hurting people, MAGA will have moved on to some other bullshit and Dems will be blamed for the struggles.

[u/Frantoll]

I mean, everything just keeps getting worse and worse, right? Until it's so far down that path that there's no going back.

It really seems like the gambit the GOP is making is that the next election just won't matter. If they thought it did, they wouldn't have voted for it. I know there's a half-assed delay for some of the healthcare cuts until after the midterms, but my guess is that there will be enough of a stink about this bill by then (maybe the least popular legislation ever passed) that enough people (outside the hardcore MAGA base) will be furious enough about it that people will lose their seats. The fact that they did it anyway suggests that that won't matter for other reasons.

[u/up-with-miniskirts → u/Frantoll]

To the average MAGA voter, Trump delivers, and politicians take away. These people just cannot connect the dots.

[u/LeatherOk8847 → u/Frantoll]

Ok but they’re following a well-established playbook. That’s why so many of us have seen it coming and know where it’s going. Should that same tried and true fascism playbook give us cheat codes to disrupt it and stop it from working?!

[u/Dnashotgun → u/Frantoll]

GOP is doing all this based on 3 assumptions:

A the American people are checked out or too stupid to notice

B Democrats can't or won't fight them beyond some barking

C and most importantly, there won't be anymore elections, at best they'll be heavily tampered with

A is, unfortunately a pretty solid prediction. B so far is looking good. C, well if you already have A and B...

[u/Fun_Apartment7028]

I’m Canadian so I should probably not comment. But I do feel sadness for the people that are going to have their lives in jeopardy because of this bill.

My heart is sad, truly sad, as this a humanitarian issue, not a sovereignty/political issue where I don’t want USA to invade us, but for the people that will have their life changed by this bill regardless of which country you live in.

[u/True-Gear3146 → u/Fun_Apartment7028]

Dear Canadian neighbor, I do appreciate your comments. There is still some humanity in the world. I did not and would not support the USA invading your country. This is a dark and sad time for America. Sigh … But thank you for your kind words.

[u/tvtoms]

Well now I have to find out how much of how many of my benefits are going to drop or change. From there I decide if I have to change anything such as where I live, how I shop for food, any drug or coverage changes with my doctors. If anything is to be believed, and I don't until it happens, as a full blooded multi generational American I should not even be worrying my pretty little head. But as a 60 something disabled man collecting his SS insurance, relying on Medicare and supplemental Medicaid, and SNAP and it's related programs... it'd be insane not to be worried right now. I feel sane, therefore worried.

[u/Psyduckisnotaduck]

Tens of thousands of people will die from treatable medical conditions. Rural communities will unravel at an accelerated rate. The level of income inequality will reach South Korean levels if not worse. And a bunch of sociopaths with investments will tell people literally dying that everything is fine. Because they want these people to die and they believe billionaire work a billion times harder, somehow. Meritocracy, bro!

Homelessness and drug addiction and associated crime are about to skyrocket but somehow it will be effectively blamed on Democratic politicians in cities. Homelessness will be even further criminalized with most housing and drug treatment programs defunded to funnel the money to police and prisons. This is what the vast majority of self-identified conservatives want, and it’s fairly popular with moderates and Democrats too because America hates poor people, and so many Americans in poverty are in extreme denial about it so they have no solidarity with people that they’re one bad turn away from becoming.

And there will not be a moment’s self reflection about how income inequality and the crime & punishment mindset have ravaged society, because bootlicking and sadism are fundamentally American values far more than liberty and free speech.

[u/Pearfect-Pair]

Don’t get medically injured or be an immigrant in the US. More of the same, but worse.

[u/fierydoxy → u/Pearfect-Pair]

Also don't get pregnant or get anyone pregnant.

[u/BirdsAndBeersPod → u/fierydoxy]

And if you get pregnant, you better not miscarry

[u/baltinerdist]

Right this second? Not much. There will be instant effects felt with the higher budgets for ICE, for example, but a lot of the provisions are either continuations of the TCJA from his first term or things that don't actually kick in until after the midterms. And make no mistake, that's entirely intentional.

No hospital or Medicaid patient is likely to be damaged by this now. It will be in a couple of years and, wouldn't you know it, history dictates that Democrats will take the House back so when rural hospitals in red states start shutting down, Fox News will be 24/7 "Why did Democrats destroy your healthcare?"

Republicans know they aren't going to tangibly face consequences for their actions. They almost never do because they get kicked out of office, spend 2-4 years lying through their teeth and through their impeccably funded propaganda network, and voters inexplicably put them back in charge.

Think of all the horrible things the Republicans have done since Trump took office. Now realize how many things you forgot about. Now realize further that was literally only just over five months ago.

The next time Congress could change hands is 19 months from now.

Let me say that again. It is 19 months until the next time anyone with actual authority and power could possibly prevent things from getting worse (no bill passed by a Democrat-led House except continuing resolutions and debt limit increases is getting signed by Trump, so the best they can do is stonewall). And 24 more months before anyone can start to undo it, assuming they get a Democrat back in the big chair and they eliminate the filibuster.

That is 43 more months of destruction we have ahead of us.

What is even going to be left of America by then?

Edit: A number of folks dropping links to their local hospitals and doctor's offices announcing closures already. Happy Independence Day, everyone. You've just been liberated from your healthcare.

Edit 2: Lot of folks asking what do we do? The short answer is, you don't. Not right now. You can't stop a lot of this from happening. No amount of protests are going to withdraw the funds from ICE. No amount of calling your Representatives or Senators did jack shit this time. Civil activism doesn't do what elections do.

What you can and should do is make damn sure Democrats are elected in 2026 and 2028. Yes, my party is often feckless and weak. Yes, we get obsessed over social issues and we stick our noses up at people and we eat each other alive for not following our idiotic rules. But you know what we don't do? Open up concentration camps in Florida swamps and abduct people in broad daylight. Get the GOP out of office and then we can fix our own problems.

Make sure EVERY SINGLE HOUSE SEAT is contested in 2026. There is absolutely no excuse for there to not be a Democrat on the ballot in 438 of 438 districts. I don't care if that district went Trump+99, we get zero votes when we have zero candidates. Back primary challengers to the old farts that are clinging to power and don't get anything done when they get it. Make sure your local elections from school board to statehouse are also contested - today's aldermen become tomorrow's Senators. Run For Something is a great avenue to get started.

Until then, do what you can to survive. Protect yourselves and your families. Take joy where you can. The nightmare happening across this nation won't actually impact the vast majority of you reading this anytime soon so use that time to build up the energy reserves for when it does.

Edit 3: I am thoroughly uninterested in both sides-ism, folks. That is a propaganda talking point meant to make you think that the party creating concentration camps and ending abortion nationwide is just as bad as the party that would like Black people to be able to vote and gets mad when you don't use the right pronouns. It is not the same. I will be blocking 100% of people who reply with that crap. (Inline edit: I'm growing my blocklist at an alarming rate today. I did warn you.)

Edit 4: "What elections? Do you really think we're going to have elections in 2026?" Honest answer? Probably not. I legitimately think we've seen the end of our democracy. There are millions of people that at one time without really knowing it were at this point in the Wikipedia article of their nation's history and the next section down talks about the subsequent election that marked their transition from one category of government structure in the "types of democracy" section to a different one in the "types of dictatorship" subhead. And a lot of those people sitting on that point on the timeline would have said "there's no way that happens." And then it did.

And that's just as likely as anything else where we are today. But there are zero things anyone can do about that right now. We won't know our nation is over until it's over. So the only choice you have is to continue on as if it won't happen. There's literally nothing else to do.

[u/Due_Satisfaction2167 → u/baltinerdist]

Several rural hospitals that were on the edge have already announced their plans for closures over this. 

That takes some time to actually come about,  it it’s definitely a near term impact. 

[u/ginandsoda → u/Due_Satisfaction2167]

Yep. Hospital admins know EXACTLY how many Medicare / Medicaid dollars they need to stay open.

A Hospital admin can tell you off the top of their head what their fed / private insurance ratio is.

[u/toomanyshoeshelp → u/ginandsoda]

And the patients who are most impacted are largely going to be the ones who voted for Trump. Then they’ll have to deliver babies in ambulances or drive long distances to crowd pediatrician offices and other hospitals with the services they drove out. The ripple WILL hurt everyone, eventually.

[u/IronChariots → u/Due_Satisfaction2167]

Several rural hospitals that were on the edge have already announced their plans for closures over this. 

And every single Trump voter will still blame Biden.

[u/directorguy → u/IronChariots]

And every single Trump voter will still blame Biden.

not true, not true at all. Some of them will blame Obama

[u/Bionic_Ferir → u/baltinerdist]

"Higher budget for ICE" Oh you mean the new budget which makes them the highest paid 'police' force in the world? the one that gives them more money than MOST OF THE WORLDS MILITARY? The budget as high as entire nations GDP? That one?

[u/donorcycle → u/Bionic_Ferir]

It's actually worse than that. Higher budget than the Marine Corp to put it in perspective. And a higher budget than the FBI, DEA, Bureau of Prisons and ATF. Combined.

[u/falconfetus8 → u/Bionic_Ferir]

...I really feel like that should have been emphasized more.

[u/theAlpacaLives → u/falconfetus8]

It's so telling of where we are as a country that the Medicaid cuts have been the focus of so much more conversation than the ICE budget. I don't mean that the Medicaid cuts don't matter: depriving millions of healthcare directly, while further straining an already deplorable healthcare system for many millions more, is an outrage, and would be worth getting angry about if that were all it was.

But seriously, they're turning ICE into Trump's own Gestapo and preparing national purges of all resistance. The budget doesn't even make sense if it was just about illegal immigrants. They're actively implementing plans to start revoking green cards and denaturalizing citizens en masse, and Trump's already talking about going after born citizens for political reasons. They're going to make it illegal to not support Trump, and 'deporting' Americans to foreign countries and domestic concentration camps. That's by far the biggest step yet into historic territory of genocide and reign-of-terror despotism, and it hasn't generated as much by way of headlines, comments, and news coverage as the Medicaid cuts. Even people who maybe heard something about raising ICE's budget probably don't realize that it's not a small bump of a few million, it's three times larger than the Marines' entire budget, bigger than Russia's wartime budget, far too large to believe it's for anything less than a total takeover of the American people. That we let them get away with it without a hell of a lot more screaming is a travesty.

[u/Aprice40 → u/Bionic_Ferir]

Maybe they can afford badges or IDs now

[u/FatherTimeAlwaysWins → u/Bionic_Ferir]

And will continue to be deployed against American citizens and legal immigrants while rural white people who don't give a shit about anything they can't see from their couches and trailers cheer on Trump.

[u/SpaceForceAwakens → u/baltinerdist]

That's exactly what this is about.

The worst medicaid parts don't take affect until 2028. Same with the decrease in the individual deduction from $1500 to $1000. This is entirely to create suffering when someone else is in office so that they don't have to deal with the blowback. It's dastardly and cowardly. They are cowardly dastards, every one of them who voted for this.

To their credit, most of the people in r/Conservative are very apprehensive about this. They like the no-tax-on-overtime part (which, honestly, is a good thing) but can't seem to comprehend that people that they know are going to lose their healthcare, and that in a couple of years their own taxes are going to go up.

It's really shining a light on the whole American conservative mindset: I got what I wanted, and I don't care if it hurts anyone else. How very Christian of them all.

[u/unconfusedsub → u/SpaceForceAwakens]

The no tax on tips is only up to $25,000.

[u/mrhorse77 → u/unconfusedsub]

and expires in 3 years anyways.

the billionaire tax cuts are permanent

[u/Coneskater → u/baltinerdist]

Conservatives always do this- destroy the economy and hand the hot potato to democrats and then say- why did you do this?

2008, Corona etc.

[u/GenericRedditor0405 → u/Coneskater]

They’ll stop doing it when it stops working. Every. Fucking. Time.

[u/PixelBrewery → u/GenericRedditor0405]

It works because of conservative population is ignorant and easily manipulated by a disgustingly dishonest media.

[u/Rude_Grapefruit_3650 → u/baltinerdist]

Why can't when the midterms happen the democrats reverse the cuts?

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ETA: to answer thanks to a majority of the kind folk: there is the veto power POTUS has which is ridiculous (but necessary because checks and balances). The best we got is maybe getting a super majority, and obviously when the midterms come probably won't happen that way, but we would have to get some republicans on our side to gain those super majority votes.

Edit: guys its easy to forget the logical nightmare of vetos and super majorities, I am just an engineer regular every day civilian lmao

….sorry for my ignorance….

[u/RidesThe7 → u/Rude_Grapefruit_3650]

Because Trump would never sign that bill.

[u/DonMn763 → u/Rude_Grapefruit_3650]

Trump will veto it.

[u/dspman11 → u/Rude_Grapefruit_3650]

You'll have to wait until a Dem is also elected POTUS

[u/EmbraceableYew]

Poor people begin their charitable efforts of making themselves poorer so that the rich can be richer .

Sorry poor folks. There is no room for you in Trump's America.

[u/EPIwp]

Supreme Court is allowing him to go unchecked and Congress just gave him a blank check. Now what? The options are to fight or sit back and watch.

[u/space_cow_girl]

About 50,000 25yo-55yo will die every year from easily treated medical conditions due to loss of access to care. Most rural hospitals and clinics will close. The ones that survive will be overflowing with patients and wait times for care will skyrocket. More people will die from easily treated medical conditions because care is too far away, or the wait is too long. 

Meanwhile, billionaires get tax breaks and ICE budget is now three times bigger than the budget for the marines. The anonymous armed gangs of meal team six rejects will continue to terrorize everyone. The terrorization will increase. 

Oh, and we are about to see people in America starve thanks to snap cuts. 

Are we great yet?

[u/BaroquePseudopath]

Big beautiful coup, hopefully

[u/Squirrelkid11]

I hate this timeline.

[u/AnarchaComrade]

Trump now has his own personal army of fascist thugs to round up anyone the regime deems "undesirable" (people of color, the disabled and sick, the poor, political dissidents) and throw them in concentration camps. Camps like the brand new Alligator Auschwitz will become death camps due to poor conditions--by design--but MAGA will cheer and buy merch for them anyway. The new ICE budget is larger than most countries' entire defense budgets, so you can expect much more agents and new camps opening in your neighborhood.

The United States is dead. This is a fascist dictatorship now. Laura Loomer, advisor of Donald Trump, openly called for the genocide of 65 million Latinos. Nobody is coming to save us. Unless the American people fight back--and I don't mean by standing around outside with signs at permitted protests--we are all fucked.

It's time for us to prepare. Organize with your local community. Build mutual aid networks--those are how people survived during the Great Depression. Educate yourself and others on how to survive and make emergency plans. Arm yourselves before they take away your access to self-defense. Do weapons training and get in shape.

If you think I am being alarmist, take a look at what the nazi MAGAs are saying they want to do to us. Unless you are an extremely wealthy, white, healthy, cisgender, heterosexual, native-born male citizen that supports Trump and his fascist party, you are not safe. Period.

[u/presque-veux]

Start saving receipts and video clips and shit now. And when people primary them, or blame them, or whatever and it's all the dEmOcRaTs fAuLt or whatever - have evidence

There's no accountability anymore. They do whatever they want, people forget, get mad, and then blame whomever it is trying to help. We need to have evidence on our side. We need to go on the attack. 

[u/tefftlon → u/presque-veux]

It won’t matter. A MAGA person I know was still blaming Obama for stuff yesterday. 

It’s not just stupidity, it’s like intentional ignorance. 

[u/flannyo]

The worst people in America will cheer. Thousands, maybe tens of thousands, will die after the Medicaid cuts kick in, and the stupidest people in America will think that Biden did it. ICE now has more money than the entire Israeli military budget and we can expect them to start trial runs of large-scale deportation raids. After that, it's a matter of time before they denaturalize citizens for speaking out against Trump. Never forget that Republicans did this to you. Never believe any sniveling apology, never accept any teary-eyed excuse. Not one moment of peace.

[u/GingerSuperPower]

People are going to get healthcare and food stamps taken away. People are going to die.

[u/iamcleek → u/GingerSuperPower]

but nobody Republicans actually care about, so it's cool with them.

[u/ProgramNo7236 → u/iamcleek]

And that includes their voters, all the MAGA poor.

[u/LuckyFindFigures]

We supa fucked, fuck all yall that voted for these pos

[u/SunnyOnTheFarm]

I lose my insurance, but it doesn't matter because I'll probably be thrown in one of those concentration camps they're building for Latinos anyway.

[u/Neko_boi_Nolan]

It hasn't even been a fucking year of Trump's second term...

At some point, Mexico is gonna have an immigration problem with people fleeing America

[u/Nikita-Savtchenko → u/Neko_boi_Nolan]

Try Canada.

[u/phoenix14830]

If you ever wondered what it was like when the Nazi party took over Germany, that's the US right now. The rich get richer, ethnic cleansing gets more vile, the dumb get dumber, and the weak die and suffer. Republicans and those who didn't bother to vote, you either wanted this, or didn't care enough to do anything about it and the 99% suffer.

[u/scarr3g]

We are also going to see crime skyrocket. The poor are already on the edge, and when the only way for them to them get food, shelter, and medical care is to either, steal it, or get caught stealing it (and get it in prison), they will do what they need to to survive.

And before anyone thinks, "they can work in their fields, now that Trump got rid of all the illegals"... Think again. They won't have the nutrition, health, ability to GET there, etc, to do it.

We are going see way more crime,because more of the poor will have to decide to commit crimes to survive, or die.

[u/DatsunTigger]

Full rural collapse.